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 08-15-2005, 06:59 AM         #1
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Aug 15 - 'Snitching' T-shirts spark outrage
 

 
'Snitching' T-shirts spark outrage
By RAY HENRY, Standard-Times staff writer

NEW BEDFORD -- Rahking Lopes puffed on a cigar as he sauntered inside the same West End housing complex that detectives canvassed door-to-door hours earlier while investigating the recent shooting of a 3-year-old girl.
Few witnesses have stepped forward to offer police information about the gunman who shot the toddler in the leg on Wednesday night, authorities say. Perhaps the message on Mr. Lopes' black T-shirt explains why.
A red octagon resembling a stop sign adorns the front. The white lettering inside carries a simple warning: "Stop snitching."
"It's for the neighborhood," said Mr. Lopes, 24. "Somebody snitched on me. I just got out of jail."
Law enforcement authorities say reluctant witnesses, labeled snitches by their detractors, have hampered investigations into multiple k!llings, including two teenagers shot dead three blocks from Big Willy's Style on Kempton Street where Mr. Lopes bought his shirt.
Witness intimidation in New Bedford has proved a pervasive problem. A gunman fired four shots at the main witness in a gang-related murder this winter. Another received a threatening phone call and chose jail over testifying. One man called to testify complained of being threatened at gunpoint.
"Apparently, this is a fashion statement now," said David Oliveira, a local attorney, who saw a vendor hawking a similar shirt last week at the Feast of the Blessed Sacrament, one of the city's largest cultural attractions.
William H. Shell, the owner of Big Willy's, sells the shirts in his clothing store for $20. They're popular with teenagers, and he has few qualms about selling them.
"Kids don't get shot over T-shirts," he said. "That stuff happened long before this T-shirt came out."
Mr. Shell, 55, said he's only vaguely familiar with the slogan's origin.
The genesis may lie in Baltimore, where police noticed a homemade DVD titled "Stop Snitching" circulating in crime-plagued neighborhoods last year, according to news accounts. Speakers flash guns and jewelry while threatening individuals believed to be cooperating with the police. Denver Nuggets star Carmelo Anthony makes a cameo appearance.
Mr. Shell's stock of "Stop Snitching" shirts came from a wholesale distributor in New York City, he said. They are piled in the middle of his store, available in black, white or camouflage.
"To me, nobody should buy those things," said Lt. Richard M. Spirlet, a spokesman for the New Bedford Police Department. "Why would someone want to wear something like that and think that's the way to go? He should have T-shirts that say, 'Get Involved' or 'Save Your Neighborhood.'"
Big Willy's offers the same variety of fitted baseball caps, Portuguese flags, jewelry and clothing available from its competitors. But more sinister themes are tucked between the Nuggets jerseys and Tupac Shakur shirts.
The $25 rack contains one T-shirt depicting a coffin. It warns that the "game don't stop until the casket drops." Mugshots taken of the leaders of a notorious crack cocaine ring based in Detroit adorn another.
"I won't sell you that one," Mr. Shell told a reporter.
The business does operate with a sense of civic duty, Mr. Shell said. Unlike many convenience stores, he doesn't sell knives or cigarette papers, commonly used to roll marijuana joints.
He generally opens in the evenings because his days are spent working at the United Way-sponsored Hunger Commission to supply food for the needy. A former addict, Mr. Shell helped found Treatment on Demand and formerly led the South First Street Neighborhood a.ssociation.
The Standard-Times named him the New Bedford Man of the Year in 1999 for his civic involvement.
"For him of all people -- I don't believe he could be selling that," said Phyllis Lopes, the leader of the Citywide Neighborhood Alliance, an anti-violence coalition.
Her grandson Cecil was k!lled in a drive-by shooting last Halloween just blocks from Mr. Shell's store. She says the investigation stalled because those at the scene wouldn't talk to the police.
She wouldn't judge the T-shirts she said without first speaking with Mr. Shell. But she said the two-word message "raises eyebrows."
"I would hope it doesn't mean what I think it means," she said. "murder is not entertainment."

Contact Ray Henry at rhenry@s-t.com



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90 comments for "Aug 15 - 'Snitching' T-shirts spark outrage"

 08-15-2005, 07:05 AM         #2
Blacky Chan  OP
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^^dats my hood


cheaa

 08-15-2005, 07:09 AM         #3
krzyboi  OP
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Stop Snitchin

 08-15-2005, 07:12 AM         #4
Blacky Chan  OP
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"murder is not entertainment."

and

"Why would someone want to wear something like that and think that's the way to go? He should have T-shirts that say, 'Get Involved' or 'Save Your Neighborhood.'"


is real talk

 08-15-2005, 07:24 AM         #5
I3Baller  OP
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^co sign

 13 years ago '04        #6
uncblizms 
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haha...the "Get Involved" t-shirt would be big seller too...however prob for the wrong reasons.

 13 years ago '04        #7
syxx2001 
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LOL, if it was 91 it would sell for the right reason.

 08-15-2005, 08:01 AM         #8
Brando457  OP
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aint never snitch bi*ch

 13 years ago '05        #9
A~team 2 heat pts
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well i think that you should souldent snitch on pity sh*t

 13 years ago '04        #10
RatedQue 51 heat pts51
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n*ggas always talk that Dont Snitch sh*t, but when things get real and they see that time staring them in the face they start singing their a.sses off. Seen it happen too many times, not too many real n*ggas out there, alot of em frontin


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 08-15-2005, 08:34 AM         #11
sniper1  OP
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where can i get one of those tees lol.

 08-15-2005, 08:40 AM         #12
Buck22  OP
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where can I get one of these joints???

 13 years ago '04        #13
Barcode 7 heat pts
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welcome to the hood sh*t by arme whas pop'n a few years back....they had the guns on it wit a positive message...

 08-15-2005, 08:43 AM         #14
HumanCrakk  OP
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i wouldnt snitch cuz ive been snitched on before so personally its against my morals but at the same time going around promoting not snitching to little kids is just gonna end up fu*king up hoods even worse and causing more addicts and k!llings and sh*t

 13 years ago '05        #15
Ushouldpayme 1 heat pts
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This will be a little long but bear with me for a sec.....

What is snitching? That's the question. Is it snitching to report who shot the little girl in the leg? Some n*ggaz play the game the wrong way and fu*k up the hood, there's no organization. After they fu*k up and not take out the right person and injure innocent people then it's, "don't snitch". The guys who don't play the game the way it was supposed to be played need to be in jail. Hate me for this. But this is a big problem in the hood. Dumb fu*kers run reckless and do whatever they want to do and then they don't want consequences for the reckless actions. Play the game right. Hustle smart, remove whomever you have to, but do it smartly if that's yo' thang, but play the game right. n*ggaz always lookin' up to mafia/mob movies but miss the most obvious thing, THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR fu*kIN' NEIGHBORHOOD. Look at Scarface the Movie, cats always have Tony Montana a.ss on shirts and pictures, but it's Frank who was around for a long a.ss time, Scarface a.ss died because he didn't follow the rules an O.G. gave him. I'm done....thanks for your time.

 08-15-2005, 08:49 AM         #16
Blacky Chan  OP
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 sniper1 said
where can i get one of those tees lol.

yo that store in the article is down the street from me

holla @ me in pm and i could e bay u a shirt

 13 years ago '05        #17
dipset kid0221 1 heat pts
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im lookin for stores around here wit 1 so i can pick me up 1

 13 years ago '05        #18
OMEGAMAN 1 heat pts
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Bullsh*t, I understand there are rules to the streets, but how the hell can you say that the shooter of a 3 year old girl shouldn't go to jail?

 08-15-2005, 08:54 AM         #19
Blacky Chan  OP
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 OMEGAMAN said
Bullsh*t, I understand there are rules to the streets, but how the hell can you say that the shooter of a 3 year old girl shouldn't go to jail?


yea thats where they get it twisted

there are lines to be drawn when its "snichin" and when its yuor duty as a person

 08-15-2005, 09:20 AM         #20
HardWhite  OP
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either way....STOP SNITCHING!!!

 08-15-2005, 09:25 AM         #21
Blacky Chan  OP
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^^how would u feel if ur mom, brother, sister, etc etc

got k!lled for no good reason
like they got stuck in crossfire or sumthin like that 3 yr old in the article
and everyone was too scared to expose the coward that shot that innocent bystander


would you still remain ignorant and say

either way....STOP SNITCHING!!!

 13 years ago '04        #22
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I think they should add a few more words to the message on the shirt. Instead of it just saying "Stop Snitching," it should say "Stop snitching, and let murderers walk freely so they can k!ll more people."


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 08-15-2005, 09:48 AM         #23
HardWhite  OP
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 Blacky Chan said
^^how would u feel if ur mom, brother, sister, etc etc

got k!lled for no good reason
like they got stuck in crossfire or sumthin like that 3 yr old in the article
and everyone was too scared to expose the coward that shot that innocent bystander


would you still remain ignorant and say

either way....STOP SNITCHING!!!
U may not believe this but NO i would not, i still wouldnt snitch, theres codes u dont break and thats one of them.... u just get back for the get back. but under no circumstances would i ever say a word. death before dishonor and fu*k all that ignorant talk, im highly intelligent.... i just follow certain codes....respect it

 08-15-2005, 09:49 AM         #24
j_espo1  OP
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 Buck22 said
where can I get one of these joints???
E-BAY.

 08-15-2005, 10:05 AM         #25
Lungs  OP
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 krzyboi said
Stop Snitchin
Do you not understand the irony of having that as your slogan and then the Pap quote in your signature?

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