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What is the Biggest Disgrace/s In Hip Hop?


 
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 13 years ago '05        #76
legacy313 2 heat pts
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 Jamaro85 said
^^^Damn, real talk...people need to make the music that THEY WANT, and not the music that the masses want...thenagain, what is it all about for the artists in the game today? The dollar...

And the sad truth is that following the current trends in hip-hop is a cover up for 75% of the most popular artists...most of these cats out are either garbage to begin with or are unimaginative and lack creativity...

For the most part if most rappers made the music that they wanted to make it would be hot garbage anyway...it's so much easier for them to get the most popular producer and make something people will rock to in the club...that's why hip-hop is so lame today...

Thats what Ive been tryin to tell people for years. For instance, look at Fat Joe, he tried to go not commercial, but pop, did it sell, no because he sounds stupid on a track with Nelly, he is just too real and respected to be on a track trying to go pop. U cant trick the consumer, these trl people know that Fat Joe is hood, so when they see him with Nelly, they listen to that particular song, but wont buy the album because it doesent contain other songs like that. Yeah he went platinum with J.O.S.E., but when he made a hood album like Loyalty, where his mtv fans loyal? No, that proves that they dont give a fu*k about him right there. Instead of trying to cross over with his own merit, he begged the mtv audience to take him in and listen to his hardcore sh*t too, but they didint buy into it therefore it didint sell. Unlike Jay-Z who can realease a string of commercial hits, but dosent need another pop rapper to bring him into that audience.

 13 years ago '05        #77
MSSoldier 3 heat pts
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Afeni Shakur (Black Panther) letting Eminem (Racist White ??????)....
do the production 4 his latest cd

&

The Ying Yang Twins, Gucci Mane, Lil' Scrap & Trillvile, Young Jeezy,
Pretty Ricky, Bow Wow, Nelly & The Lunatics and G-Unit

 08-07-2005, 02:09 PM         #78
Rendition  OP
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 13 years ago '04        #79
dgangsta 
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any rapper who all of a sudden makes songs 4 bi*chez

 08-07-2005, 02:59 PM         #80
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Dirty DownSouth music becoming popular is the worst sh*t in the history of man , n*ggas is just dumbing Hip-hop music down so WHITE PEOPLE can understand it , white people werent with us yet and they still aint unless u talkin Aftermath/Def Jam Artist

 08-07-2005, 03:00 PM         #81
Shakur195  OP
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Southern Rap

 13 years ago '04        #82
Jamaro85 
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I feel y'all to an extent on the issue of Southern rap...there are the cats down South who are absolute garbage and are making a buck off of it...there are still some holding it down though, so I wouldn't generalize the whole South as garbage...

 08-07-2005, 04:53 PM         #83
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Nelly

 13 years ago '05        #84
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 siggiddy said
excatly........along with......

Bow Wow, Chingy, Nelly, Alot of South Rappers like D4L, Da Franchise Boyz, Paul Wall, Mike Jones, Ying Yang Twins, Lil Scrappy, people like that.
^^^^agree totally

 08-07-2005, 05:29 PM         #85
eNcrypTioN  OP
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 gotsalldabi*che said
yeah eminem is BY FAR the worst thing to happen to hip hop.
he brang about 5 million ignorant a.ss white kids into listening to hip hop
why the fu*k i wanna hear about you k!lling your mom and babys momma? that sh*t isnt contreversial, that sh*t is just wrong

everything that comes out of your mouth seems to be against white people... Did a white kid kick your a.ss or something and thats why you hate us so much... racist fu*k

 13 years ago '04        #86
enetblazin4eva 4 heat pts
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The way hiphop turned into a big fad/kraze. I didn't think it would ever happen in the mid 90's.......... blame eminem :rolleyes:

 13 years ago '05        #87
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 Nocturnal-One said

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fu*k that sh*t, akon is the man. he never says he raps though, he is R&B

 13 years ago '04        #88
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i dont understand why so many people hate on Nelly, Country Grammar was hot sh*t, Nellyville was average, Sweat/Suit was pretty good, fu*k it, im a nelly fan and Loyal to the Game was a hot album, dont see why eminem gets hate for producing it, track with elton was fu*king bangin'....

 13 years ago '05        #89
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 legacy313 said
The Shiny Suit/Bling Era. This to me is what ruined hip hop. I have to put most of the blame on P.Diddy.
Really?...Personally, I don't think hip-hop is ruined at all...I think it's gotten better, despite all the jewelry flashin' and sh*t...and I'mma hafta disagree with you on the P Diddy thing; shiny suits were only popular to him and bling didn't really explode until BG made a song about it...

 legacy313 said
They will play Snoops videos with Pharell and Justin Timberlake, but wont show Ups and Downs with just him in it, keepin it gangsta. mtv would not give a fu*k about 50 Cent if he wasent with em and dre,
Funny, cuz I saw Ciara's video on there the other day...and Missy Elliot's...MTV isn't just for white people or "white music", they just have certain standards to uphold...Yeah, they'll play a Gwen Stefani video before some G Unit sh*t....but that ain't cuz of race or genre, fam, it's all about subject matter and the variety of viewers who tune in to thier station...

 legacy313 said
They dont give a fu*k how hot u are, u have to do it their way, or u will either get shelved or wont get any push. Look at Cormega. We have to make music for what we as individuals feel is the right direction, not to get airplay, cause if everybody did this, mtv would be forced to play it as in the early 90's when gangsta rap got popular. They wasent playin no fu*kin NWA, CMW, and Kool G. Rap, they waited until the sh*t got popular,
You don't understand, airplay is popularity; the more popular you are, the more stacks you get...what, do you think rappers just entertain for fun? You do that at home, this is business we talkin' bout here...rappers need cash, just like you and me need cash, they got fam to feed like us, and they do that with thier careers...as for MTV not playin' NWA, well that's because rap music wasn't as hot as it is now...besides, Run DMC got some playtime...

 legacy313 said
So my thought is to say fu*k the corporate people that want u to change the way u make music.
Your opinion...but to go as far as to say they want us to change the way you make music?...nah, it's more like "Change it if you want our support...

 13 years ago '05        #90
Woodwin 3 heat pts
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get off these n*ggas d!ck and stop hatin cause they makin mad cake talkin about what ever the fu*k they wanna talk about and yall n*ggas workin at mc donalds kickin it in ya grandmas basement. let people talk and listen to what ever the fu*k they want and dont get mad cause a certain person at they style. you think these n*ggas give a fu*k about being real THEY MAKIN MONEY point blank thats what music is all about MONEY

 13 years ago '05        #91
Da Gooneyz 5 heat pts
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I cant put my finger one single thing, but one IMO should be the fact that Clive Campbell works for Fed-Ex while artists put out videos swiping a credit card between a girls buttocks.


Last edited by Da Gooneyz; 08-07-2005 at 07:54 PM..

 13 years ago '04        #92
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ya eminem really because if u think of it what has he contributed besides like the dude in the beggining said bringing 5 million ignorant white kids into the rap scene


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 13 years ago '05        #93
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the biggest disgrace is the fact that we have lost so many rappers to senseless violence, yet hardly any of the murders have been solved....

 13 years ago '05        #94
legacy313 2 heat pts
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 SMG said
Really?...Personally, I don't think hip-hop is ruined at all...I think it's gotten better, despite all the jewelry flashin' and sh*t...and I'mma hafta disagree with you on the P Diddy thing; shiny suits were only popular to him and bling didn't really explode until BG made a song about it...


Funny, cuz I saw Ciara's video on there the other day...and Missy Elliot's...MTV isn't just for white people or "white music", they just have certain standards to uphold...Yeah, they'll play a Gwen Stefani video before some G Unit sh*t....but that ain't cuz of race or genre, fam, it's all about subject matter and the variety of viewers who tune in to thier station...




You don't understand, airplay is popularity; the more popular you are, the more stacks you get...what, do you think rappers just entertain for fun? You do that at home, this is business we talkin' bout here...rappers need cash, just like you and me need cash, they got fam to feed like us, and they do that with thier careers...as for MTV not playin' NWA, well that's because rap music wasn't as hot as it is now...besides, Run DMC got some playtime...




Your opinion...but to go as far as to say they want us to change the way you make music?...nah, it's more like "Change it if you want our support...


How the fu*k can u say hip hop is better, u gotta be outta your mind, that sh*t aint nowhere near the 80's or 90's. And I said shiny suit era, I didint say he had everybody wearing shiny suits, but if u look back, u will see n*ggas like Jay and Nas redoing 80's pop records to make sh*t for the radio because thats all u were hearing from 97-98. And yeah I dont care what u rap about as long as u make good music, but if all u talk about is how much money and cars u have, u have very limited subject matter, and I will get tired of listening to it as I do a lot of rappers.

Yeah, Ciara and Missy make hit records, thats my point, if u not makin hits, they wont play it on regular mtv. Thats bs Talib Kweli need to be heard just like Gwen Stefani, so they shouldent be so limited as to what they play.

Yeah Run-DMC got played on mtv when they did a song with aerosmith. They had to cross over to get accepted by them. If they would have kept makin sh*t like My Adidas and Peter Piper, they would have never got played until yo mtv raps. And its obvious the rappers with real money get it from other things besides rap. Ask Jay-Z what he gets the least money from, and he will tell u its rap. If u make hip hip the way u want to, a lot of rappers would sell more because they would make better music.


Right, fu*k them, I wouldent change sh*t for them, this is my life, and I have to make a club song or about a female for them to push my album, that dosent make sense, if u run a label, u should get behind a Papoose just like u would get behind a Cassidy.


Last edited by legacy313; 08-07-2005 at 09:30 PM..

 13 years ago '04        #95
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 logicalkid said
RIP 2Pac, after his passing featuring Elton John on one of his albums, much worse a single.

Eminems racist tapes, never really felt him but this really disappointed me to think this is his attitude and he caking it up because of Dre
Out of all these yrs of disgraces in hip hop..i wouldnt list these as "major" disgraces..yea that Em sh*t was racist but he was a kid and yea that Pac joint didnt get much airplay but the song wasn't horrible..al least to me it wasn't...but that shiny suit/bling era has helped to slowly ruin hiphop..

 13 years ago '05        #96
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man i dont wanna be gettin hate or sh*t, but I ACTUALLY thought Ghetto Gospel was an amazing song. IDK if its cause im not afraid to admit it or not, but b/c it dont got jeezy or gunit, i like it. That song had a meanin to it, its touching and sh*t. I liked it as much as i liked Changes or Dear Mama.

 13 years ago '04        #97
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TRL..........and the young fools that think hip pop is hip hop

 08-08-2005, 01:19 AM         #98
gotsalldabitche  OP
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okay, fu*k EMINEM. fu*k HIS WHITE a.ss. If white kids wanna call that racist than they can, because I AM RACIST. Hes the person that got 10 million white kids listening to rap music which therefore has white kids deciding on whats hot or not. the gangsta-rap genre doesnt really exist anymore, and the concious rap doesnt really exist anymore, cause common and talib kweli arent concious for sh*t if you compare them to Public Enemy. White kids decide whether an album is hot or not and most white kids agree that THE GAME is wack cause he shouts out legends when THE GAME is the hottest rapper to come out in the last 2 years. white people( YES I AM A RACIST) dont like nelly cause he makes happy music. if your living in the hood around a whole bunch of negative sh*t, i would wanna hear happy music too, not some more negative sh*t

 08-08-2005, 03:06 AM         #99
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I'm not really feeling the whole eminem cult(fans), a bunch of middle class white kids that take ridalin and prozac, whose parents split up and feel so hard that they can relate that they worship Eminem. On the other hand there's no denying he's got some serious skills, and the reason I will never listen to Nelly is that stupid fu*kin bandaid that he rocked for so long because he thought it was cool or he was gonna start some kind of trend. That's some whack ignorant sh*t.

 13 years ago '05        #100
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you cant say that white people are the dismantle of rap. Im not a bit racist, but you cant forget that the modern day fathers of rap are Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. Alot of brothas "forget" or don't give credit to the Beasties cause they white, but they had just as much in makin hip hop what it is, as did Run DMC.

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