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Jul 22 - Saigon Interview Pt 2 Gives Props To Jayz,Says Eminem Is A Blatant Racist & More


 
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 13 years ago '04        #126
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sai is the truth.

 13 years ago '04        #127
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 BaddNewZ said
Oh yea.... regarding the eminem nut huggers popping up.....

Shut the fu*k up..... Eminem is trash......Who wrote the rule on the wall that said if you're white you have to follow the blonde bi*ch blindly??.....

Saigon is much better than Eminem.... cuz he's made songs that have some actual meaning......and speaks on real knowledge...(not to mention he doesn't sound gay).. Eminem kicks corny punchlines about k!llin himself and sometimes says "fu*k ms cheney" to sound political......

Plus I mean the whole racist tape thing is just disgusting.... How can you continue to support a guy like that A lot of you motherfu*kers wont admit that sh*t at all..... but it's the absolute truth..... Would you support one of your boys if he said some sh*t like "fu*k them N***** bi*ches they aint sh*t..." in front of a bunch of black people????.....I doubt many of you would....

Be real with yourselves...... Eminem aint your fu*king hero just because he made it in rap and has the same color skin as you.....You aren't about to be more respected... you aren't about to blow in rap with your soundclick tracks.....JUST STOP.....if anything Eminem is making white people look BAD who aren't complete idiots that enjoy lyrics like "so shake that a.ss boy oops i mean girl girl girl girl"......ugh......

Saigon >> Eminem anyday of the week...
Aww shut the fu*k up. Saying that Em hasn't made songs with meaning is just plain ignorant. Yeah his first singles suck, but you obviously haven't listened to any of his CD's all the way through or else you would know that there are more songs on his CD's than just his singles.

Did you ever think people are supporting him because they like him as rapper and not just "for the sole reason he's white and famous in rap". You making that generalization bout Em fans makes you look even more ignorant. Not every Em fan is a god damn TRL groupie so please shut the fu*k up with that sh*t.

And yes, making that tape was wrong and fu*ked up and he's stupid for saying that and no he doesn't get a pass. But it was a long time ago and he did apologize. That doesn't excuse him for saying that but at least he admitted it was wrong and he shouldn't have said it. Not to many racists spend most of their time with people they are racist against. And why is it that everytime someone critisizes Em they just talk about his lame singles? sh*t, even Em fans will/should admitt those songs are trash but since when are CD's just filled with singles?

With that said, I like Saigon and I look foward to his CD dropping and "The Color Purple" stays on my playlist.


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 13 years ago '05        #128
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a real good read man props for the post homie

 13 years ago '04        #129
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I'm not feelin this article at all. this is what i call intellectual ignorance at it's finest because the fact that you yappin bout this and that the Interview in itself is not only a contradiction but a racist in itself (hatin on the low). I came up from the hood myself and i'm graduating from college. on some school sh*t there are actually 2 types of people in the world, people that persue and listen and people that don't then regret it. school is not even a factor: life is what u make it. prime example that'll shut everything down if em is infact a racist 50 would've never got to where he is and thensome. to put the shoe in the other foot saigon himself would do the same damn thing. grant it all music has a message positive or negative and both sai and cedric have a point but it seems as if they're stiil stuck on the black n white issue from the 60's. do people need another 911 to unite and come up with solutions? despite differences it is ourselves we need to check before judging other and lemme guess during the interview prolly was drunk or high. be a n*gga when u wanna be right? this just prove no matter what rappers said or do 95% of them are fake either to themselves or to others hands down.Who's really the puppet?: EITHER YOU MAN UP AND GET IT....WHATEVER YOU DESIRE OR SIT AND DO NOTHING WITH YOUR HAND OUT COMPLAINING TO OTHERS. i'm from the south and i'm not slow perception is a mutha serious. we all go through the same sh*t east, west, south, north different time zones always get the mindframe wrong. think about it peace.

 07-23-2005, 11:29 PM         #130
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Yo Eminem can't say the word ?????? when he is 16yrs old

But all the grown black men can call women bi*ches and hoe's along with the word ?????? proudly in there songs?

Hmmm....

 07-24-2005, 12:00 AM         #131
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 bc/o06 said
What is he talking about im black andive heard ice cube say cracker 50 say cracker ti say cracker the game has said crackerso when a black person makes a racist comment we get no wher near as much publicity as a white person
yeah but this is our music tho, this is our culture!! imagin if you will, charlie pride calling a cracker a cracker on his next single!!! these fu*king country rednecks would be all over his a.ss!!

 07-24-2005, 12:56 AM         #132
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I don't know how I feel about Saigon, but I completely agree with him on the relationships between African Americans and native Africans. When my parents came to America straight from Nigeria, there received no kind of love from blacks over here, they were insulted and received all sorts of bullsh*t. It was white people that show some kind humanity to my parents when they got here. Saigon was right, black people have their priorities fu*ked up. Even me, I was born here but I get all sorts of bullsh*t because of my name.

 13 years ago '04        #133
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this makes me wanna step my rap game up cuz the last few years ive been dumbing down my raps to be more mainstream and commercial, but lately ive been feeling to go back to my 90's hiphop influenced style which concentrates on artistry and education rather than whuts the hot new trend!!! therefore shogun of the dark has returned and will be recording new tracks very shortly

 07-24-2005, 02:36 AM         #134
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 BaddNewZ said
Oh yea.... regarding the eminem nut huggers popping up.....

Shut the fu*k up..... Eminem is trash......Who wrote the rule on the wall that said if you're white you have to follow the blonde bi*ch blindly??.....

Saigon is much better than Eminem.... cuz he's made songs that have some actual meaning......and speaks on real knowledge...(not to mention he doesn't sound gay).. Eminem kicks corny punchlines about k!llin himself and sometimes says "fu*k ms cheney" to sound political......

Plus I mean the whole racist tape thing is just disgusting.... How can you continue to support a guy like that FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT HE'S WHITE AND FAMOUS IN RAP????....A lot of you motherfu*kers wont admit that sh*t at all..... but it's the absolute truth..... Would you support one of your boys if he said some sh*t like "fu*k them N***** bi*ches they aint sh*t..." in front of a bunch of black people????.....I doubt many of you would....

Be real with yourselves...... Eminem aint your fu*king hero just because he made it in rap and has the same color skin as you.....You aren't about to be more respected... you aren't about to blow in rap with your soundclick tracks.....JUST STOP.....if anything Eminem is making white people look BAD who aren't complete idiots that enjoy lyrics like "so shake that a.ss boy oops i mean girl girl girl girl"......ugh......

Saigon >> Eminem anyday of the week...
So,let me get this straight.It's ok for other white rappers like Lil Wyte, Necro,Paul Wall,Ill Bill,etc to say the "N" word,right? Why is Eminem being singled out even though he's not the ony white rapper saying it?

 07-24-2005, 04:09 AM         #135
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yeah I agree....the south is ignant, Papoose sucks, Eminem's a racist, Jadakiss doens't sell drugs and Fat Joe is Fat.....Good a.ss read on the real....I actually stayed up and read that motherfu*ker top to bottom...

 13 years ago '04        #136
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Finally Someone Speakin Out On These Situations I Been Sayin All This Type Of sh*t....and to see Someone like Saigon Speakin out on this is just great love it

Great Read...Finally

 13 years ago '04        #137
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 cuzjuan said
this makes me wanna step my rap game up cuz the last few years ive been dumbing down my raps to be more mainstream and commercial, but lately ive been feeling to go back to my 90's hiphop influenced style which concentrates on artistry and education rather than whuts the hot new trend!!! therefore shogun of the dark has returned and will be recording new tracks very shortly
me too...

 13 years ago '04        #138
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good read

 07-24-2005, 06:57 PM         #139
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i guess

 13 years ago '05        #140
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wow its obvious some of yall dont read or got no mind of yall own saigon did make alotta good points but also plenty of his statements were ignorant,hyopocritical and contradictory and yall muafu*kas like ... real talk<<<<< kinda bullsh*t is that do yall comprehend what this guy is sayin either if u do or not it still makes me wonder about your mental state cuz this guy should stop yappin loose at the lips and think before he says some of the things he says ..cant believe i typed this blaah prolly wasted my time cuz yall gone still ride whoever yall think sound smart in an interview cuz yall lookin for someone new to follow ...weirdos

 07-25-2005, 07:32 AM         #141
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good read



easy way to get props^specially if you in the hole

 13 years ago '04        #142
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Good Good Read Saigon Really Speaks The Truth Good Job Posting This!!!

 13 years ago '05        #143
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 D.A.R.S. said
lol....damn yall sh*t is true, i never saw it before....haters talk more bout rappers then they actual fans


edit : damn, i guess nobody in here took english in college....Miss Saigon is based off Vietnam...

Miss Saigon begins in 1975, when the conflicting cultures and ideologies of the world seemed to meet violently in one city: Saigon. Cultures clash, ways of life battle on a grand scale. At the eye of the storm stand two lovers: Chris, an American soldier, and Kim, a Vietnamese girl. Their poignant struggle against the forces of war and prejudice is the heart of Miss Saigon’s story.


learn history before you talk sh*t

Yo, SHUT YOUR bi*ch a.ss UP. Man, the term Saigon was the name of a fu*king city BEFORE that play even existied. That's why the rapper chose that as a name, because the city is known for being a war-torn area in Vietnam. Damn.

 13 years ago '05        #144
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Excellent read.
Anyway...Saigon is the sh*t, it was a candid interview, and he was expressing his opinion on the specific topics Cedric Muhammed brought up.

The South has always been considered slow, that ain't new.

Eminem Nice but Eminem's white...and has been recorded calling Black people n*ggaz. Bottom line...HE fu*kED UP but it was COVERED UP REAL FAST.

Honestly, Saigon, will never sell multi-platinum units anyway because he (like Nas) is too Pro-Black and right now the majority of Black people are just REAL fu*kIN STUPID. It's sad but it's true.

 07-25-2005, 11:15 AM         #145
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dat sh*t is old

 07-25-2005, 01:04 PM         #146
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 Mrniceguy said
Exactly man! ...i'm not racist at all...but i'm slowly but surely realizing that "SOME" white people are CONCEALING RACISM...like it doesnt exist...especially in Hip-Hop.... Black artists are way more limited on what they can say then white artists....Eminem talkin bout fu*kin his moms in the a.ss...Kanye West said "white man" thats not even saying no sh*t like "CRACKER" like Eminem said "NI**ER sh*t and NI**ER bi*chES" Kanye just said "white man" and they EDITED IT.....So You Tell Me...Who's Racist Who's Not? ....Em is Racist! along with Viacom and Time Warner Dumbfu*ks!

Listen to Dead Prez- Lets Get Free...cause We still Ain't!
it was edited because it is a racist/inaccurate statement. jewish people (the people who run the music industry/hollywood/news media) are NOT white. they are semetic people. they are in the same ethnic group as arabs not whites. look at the ceos of every major record label. mostly jews. the only reason why people think white people run sh*t is because jews have a similar skin tone and are labeled as white. in reality, this is not the case.

and what the fu*k are you talking about? ROFL. are you trying to say those racist tapes eminem made as a kid were distributed by a major label? "blacks are more limited in what they can say". HAHA. are you a fu*king idiot? you think eminem would be allowed to say any racist sh*t on a interscope release? you are out of your fu*king mind to compare those two "songs" to prove how whites are allowed to be racist. im convinced you are a borderline retard.

 8 OFF said
Saigon: Yeah, a culture vulture. Like, he says it himself. Not to take anything away from the dude’s writing ability. But you know what? I have been around the country - every White kid rhymes like that! You know what it is? You can tell these kids were in better schools than we were, so they have a more intense vocabulary. So when they write it comes out more prolific and better than how we right. If you notice, Eminem, he pronounces his r’s very well. So if I was to say a rhyme and pronounce my ‘r’s’; like ‘You’re a hater’ or ‘You’re a waiter, people would be like, ‘You sound like Eminem.’ No, I am just pronouncing the ‘r’. But he was taught going to these schools how to pronounce words better. We say hatah’, we don’t say ‘hater’.

Notice how when I say, ‘you’re a hater’, it sounds like Eminem?

Cedric Muhammad: (laughter)

Saigon: Know what I mean? Because he pronounces his words. Every White kid that I meet rhymes like that. And it is so many of them that are talented. But it’s like when you are rapping about raping your mom? Growing up in Hip-Hop in the hood, no matter what moms does she is right. That is totally going totally against what we are about as Black people. Mom put us here. She was doing what she had to do to make us right. I seen n*ggas whose Mom gave them up for adoption and they still have a certain level of respect for their mother, for bringing them to the world. This n*gga (Eminem) is talking about raping his mom, burying her, k!lling her. This ain’t us, that’s not what we do. That’s them. He’s just using our art form and what we created to deal with the savagery of how they get down. And to me that’s crazy. Somebody should have been checked that sh*t, a long time ago.
HAHA! this fool is saying white people pronounce words better because they go to better schools. ROFL. no. how bout, the english language was made up by whites therefore they dont butcher it like other races.

he calls eminem a culture vulture but he is the grestest culture thief of all time. doesnt he realize that africans had no written language? doesnt he realize that if white people didnt teach blacks how to read and write they would have no way to communicate with each other?

he says eminem is a culture vulture, i say he is the culture vulture for stealing all of the things contributed to society by white people. from to driving in cars to talking on phones to watching television to playing basketball to rhyming the white mans language into the white mans microphones. its disgusting. 95% of the activites he takes part in daily were contributed and invented by white people. and he calls eminem a culture vulture. ROFL.

but i wouldnt expect anything different from the same man who said

"if i was a chick id take the d!ck but the choice is yours"

what a f*g


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 07-25-2005, 01:10 PM         #147
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fu*k saigon, him and lauryn hill are the real racist fu*ks

 13 years ago '04        #148
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 8 OFF said
That is why all of these dudes now, feel like they have to go down there and collaborate with a Down South artist and make these songs that sound country-driven.

REAL MOTHERfu*kIN TALK

 07-25-2005, 03:56 PM         #149
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good read, but he ain't touch up on the homo industry....but i knew that most rappers are actors...50 cent is currently acting....all his beefs are fake...but its just entertainment...

 13 years ago '04        #150
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And as far as their music spreading – it spreads because it is club-oriented. Everything is about the club. Everything. Hip-Hip music has now become the new dance music, almost. A lot of people changed their musical format from dance to Hip-Hop because now you do dances in the clubs now, and because Down South is pretty much now b00ty-shakin’, strip club-oriented music. That’s what’s big and so huge right now.
Real talk

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