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 2 years ago '13        #1841
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 rashcobar said:
He may of - they use to roll together and then Doom did some shiesty sh*t and they were beefing. The came up with the names around the same time.

During Carey's incarceration, Dumile found success as a solo artist, a.ssuming aliases from Viktor Vaughn to King Geedorah and collaborating with increasingly famous artists. (His next album, slated for release in early 2007, will be a collaboration with Wu-Tang Clan's Ghostface k!llah.) Known for his dense flow and intelligent wordplay, Doom's become a hero or villain to hip-hop heads worldwide. His 1999 debut album, Operation: Doomsday, was a big seller by indie standards, and Carey, who, before his incarceration, helped finance the album and supplied samples in his role as executive producer, expected fat royalty checks. More importantly, he and Dumile could resume making groundbreaking music together, now with an audience to receive it.
But it wasn't to be. Dumile had left his friend in his dust. He says they grew apart, but Carey feels betrayed. "I consider him a brother to me, and it shouldn't have gotten to the point where it's at," he says, adding that his visionary former friend has changed. "Sometimes the line of genius and acting crazy is so thin, you might fall over the line and need someone to bring you back."
That figure includes 10,000 or so of an MF Grimm–MF Doom collaboration called Special Herbs and Spices, Volume One, released in 2004 though produced years earlier.
Didn't know Special Herbs came through that label.
he wrote songs for Kool G Rap's classic album 4, 5, 6 and, he says, Dr. Dre's The Chronic, though he's uncredited for his work on the latter
The Chronic tho..wow!
Dumile[Doom] hasn't heard the song, but says he has no time for Carey's issues.
"It's funny, how, once it gets to where the name is getting recognized, everybody want to act like they got a problem with the Villain," he says. "I ain't got no friends. As soon as you think somebody's your friend, that's when you gotta watch out. When you're successful, there's always somebody that's cornering you, somebody that used to be your friend, talking about, 'He did this, he did that.' I open up my home to people, help people, and then motherfu*kers turn around and try to stab me in the back."
Doom ain't lying but he being political with that answer lol.
The mask has metaphorical implications as well, Jane says. Having been scarred by the music industry, Dumile was reinventing himself as someone who wouldn't be played for a fool. "Doom was concerned with making money right now and feeding his family by any means necessary," she says, adding that this differed from Carey's long-term goal of building a black-owned distribution company from the bottom up.
"I got a different agenda," Dumile agrees. "It's about getting money, and that's that. I got children to feed." As for Carey: He "ain't got no kids."
Never knew Doom had a child or a wife
Dumile visited him only once during that stint. Adding insult to injury, upon Carey's 2003 release, Dumile told him that the album deals with Readyrock had fallen through. He'd struck new deals to release Operation: Doomsday and Bl_ck B_st_rds, but they would pay the two men only a fraction of what was guaranteed by the original agreements.
"Dumile promised that he was going to do something to make it right, to get some thing to me," Carey says. "But he never did."
Answers Dumile, "It's funny how motherfu*kers want to complain about how 'The Villain jerked me, and this and that.' I'm like, 'Get a lawyer!' "


Seems to me like Doom is hella Grimey.

Nonetheless, Carey was willing to let bygones be bygones, and he thought Dumile felt the same way when he invited Carey to perform at an MF Doom concert at Times Square club B.B. King's last year.
"I wasn't going to do any more shows," Carey says. "It's a very uncomfortable feeling sitting down and having to rhyme. It's like boxing—you don't want to be a boxer in a wheelchair. You want to stand up and f!ght."
But the chance to be with Dumile was more than he could pass up, and in a video of the concert DVD Carey has, he looks as happy as a kid at his first baseball game. "All the people on the sides know MF Doom is hot, MF Doom is hot, MF Grimm is hot," Carey raps from his chair at the beginning of the show, wearing a heavy sweatshirt and winter cap. "This is my brother, I love him," he adds as the lights are cut and Dumile bounds onto the stage, clad in a Patrick Ewing Knicks jersey and, of course, his silver mask. He continuously shouts out Carey throughout the set, using his other stage names, Jet Jaguar and Grandmaster Grimm.
"It felt good being onstage with him," Carey recalls. "It was good to see him rock. And after that, I thought we would be back to normal. It's apparent that he didn't think so." Carey heard "El Chupa Nibre" shortly thereafter and became convinced that Dumile had fundamentally changed since their days as teenagers on 97th Street. "I think he's caught up in an image he can't escape from. He has to be a villain."
Damn. This interview makes Doom seem kinda fu*ked up but as they say sometimes it's best to never meet your idols. This was a very good read, thanks for sharing this man. I got to check out some of Mf Grimm's music when I have time but by reading it it seems like they came up with the MF together and Doom just flipped his after he left M.I.C to mean Metal Face, instead of Mad Flowz or Mother fu*king.
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 Saiyaman said:
I sat and read this whole thing across the span of a few days. Fun read lol

But who has some info on modern people? That sh*t would be really entertaining

Young Thug is a homos3xual. You didn't hear that from me
 2 years ago '14        #1843
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 Guvnor said:
Young Thug is a homos3xual. You didn't hear that from me


Well these are pretty common but here's a few

Action Bronson was a cook for the Mets

Future's brother told T-Pain "'My brother would never work with you. fu*k you and everything you stand for,'"

Freddie Gibb's dad was a cop

That's as interesting as I can get
 2 years ago '13        #1844
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 Saiyaman said:


Well these are pretty common but here's a few

Action Bronson was a cook for the Mets

Future's brother told T-Pain "'My brother would never work with you. fu*k you and everything you stand for,'"

Freddie Gibb's dad was a cop

That's as interesting as I can get
Knew that about Bronson via interviews and Gibbs via the song Broken I didn't care about the second one.

Did you know death Row Records used to have a guy signed to them named The Realest who sounded similar to 2pac and he was the reason people said Tupac never died. People believed this cause they heard new songs that sounded like Pac was on them but were recorded after he died. Really they were songs by the realest though

death Row also signed an artist named YGD Top Dogg who sounded like Snoop Dogg

Suge Knight was a black devil if you ask me
 2 years ago '14        #1845
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 Guvnor said:
Didn't know Special Herbs came through that label.


The Chronic tho..wow!


Doom ain't lying but he being political with that answer lol.

Never knew Doom had a child or a wife



Seems to me like Doom is hella Grimey.



Damn. This interview makes Doom seem kinda fu*ked up but as they say sometimes it's best to never meet your idols. This was a very good read, thanks for sharing this man. I got to check out some of Mf Grimm's music when I have time but by reading it it seems like they came up with the MF together and Doom just flipped his after he left M.I.C to mean Metal Face, instead of Mad Flowz or Mother fu*king.
The MF is short for Monkey Fam, it's origins have something to do with Kurious, Stretch Armstrong, Bobbito, Lord Sear...
 2 years ago '13        #1846
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 PATHH88 said:
The MF is short for Monkey Fam, it's origins have something to do with Kurious, Stretch Armstrong, Bobbito, Lord Sear...
Oh wow, I heard of Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito but not the other two. Did they give doom that name or something?

Thanks for the info. I used to think it just meant metal face
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 Guvnor said:
Oh wow, I heard of Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito but not the other two. Did they give doom that name or something?

Thanks for the info. I used to think it just meant metal face
Kurious Jorge is on Doomsday track called ? and he was first signed to Pete Nice's (3rd Bass) label Hoppoh records and dropped the album "A Constipated Monkey", that is tied in with how they came up with Monkey Fam through Stretch & Bobbito's world famous radio show which Lord Sear was on. Lord Sear was involved with Eminem's world tour for The Eminem Show, think he was the Ring/Circus Announcer and is a legend in the 90's underground scene as are the other names. Grimm was on the Kurious album under his original moniker The Grimm Reaper but, and I'm not 100 on this, but because the Gravediggaz then dropped with one of them called the Grim Reaper he changed it and that was when MF was added and at around that same time DOOM changed from Zev Love X, his name in KMD...
And DOOM, like Grimm, was def doing dirt in the streets so he prob is a grimey person, he was def locked up for a while in Baltimore but not sure of circumstances, plus he been known to send DOOM clones to his shows to perform as him and try to pocket the cash and fu*k the fans over...allegedly lol
 2 years ago '13        #1848
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 PATHH88 said:
Kurious Jorge is on Doomsday track called ? and he was first signed to Pete Nice's (3rd Bass) label Hoppoh records and dropped the album "A Constipated Monkey", that is tied in with how they came up with Monkey Fam through Stretch & Bobbito's world famous radio show which Lord Sear was on. Lord Sear was involved with Eminem's world tour for The Eminem Show, think he was the Ring/Circus Announcer and is a legend in the 90's underground scene as are the other names. Grimm was on the Kurious album under his original moniker The Grimm Reaper but, and I'm not 100 on this, but because the Gravediggaz then dropped with one of them called the Grim Reaper he changed it and that was when MF was added and at around that same time DOOM changed from Zev Love X, his name in KMD...
And DOOM, like Grimm, was def doing dirt in the streets so he prob is a grimey person, he was def locked up for a while in Baltimore but not sure of circumstances, plus he been known to send DOOM clones to his shows to perform as him and try to pocket the cash and fu*k the fans over...allegedly lol
Damn! Thanks for sharing the history with me bro. I know Doom was homeless at one point but ain't no he was doing dirt and yeah He used to send in imposters at his shows. Doom seems like an a.ss hole man Real Villain!
 2 years ago '08        #1849
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Does anyone know why biggie says

Cause G-E-D, wasn't B-I-G
I got P-A-D, that's why my mom's hate me


one time i heard one where he said PAID..but its always PAD?


7:08

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 2 years ago '11        #1850
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 LBoogie2122 said:

-"The bridge is over" was a Marley Marl beat that Krs One and Scott La Rock found in a studio.

-Paul C was murdered by his wife and his brother
I thought Marley said is was just the stolen Drum sounds ? not the actual beat

You know how many Black dudes were questioned behind Paul C ? fked up
 2 years ago '06        #1851
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 Guvnor said:
Knew that about Bronson via interviews and Gibbs via the song Broken I didn't care about the second one.

Did you know death Row Records used to have a guy signed to them named The Realest who sounded similar to 2pac and he was the reason people said Tupac never died. People believed this cause they heard new songs that sounded like Pac was on them but were recorded after he died. Really they were songs by the realest though

death Row also signed an artist named YGD Top Dogg who sounded like Snoop Dogg

Suge Knight was a black devil if you ask me

it gets even weirder with Tha Realest too.........

dude doesnt just sound like Pac, he hangs out and raps with a lot of Pac's Bay people........

I fu*ked with Top Dogg tho..........

Chronic 2000(Suge hoed dre out the album name and is why chronic 2001 is named what it is despite being released in late 99) and Too Gangsta 4 Radio were fu*king hilarious........both had some bangers too
 2 years ago '13        #1852
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 SmokeyTheBlunt said:
it gets even weirder with Tha Realest too.........

dude doesnt just sound like Pac, he hangs out and raps with a lot of Pac's Bay people........

I fu*ked with Top Dogg tho..........

Chronic 2000(Suge hoed dre out the album name and is why chronic 2001 is named what it is despite being released in late 99) and Too Gangsta 4 Radio were fu*king hilarious........both had some bangers too
He hung out with a lot Pac's people too? damn! It's funny how life is sometimes I know they must have thought to themselves these two homies sound just a like I wonder how well Pac and Tha Realest actually knew each other.

Also yeah man I forgot about Suge doing that to the chronic follow up, thanks for reminding me about that Like I said Suge is a black devil
 2 years ago '06        #1853
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 Guvnor said:
He hung out with a lot Pac's people too? damn! It's funny how life is sometimes I know they must have thought to themselves these two homies sound just a like I wonder how well Pac and Tha Realest actually knew each other.

Also yeah man I forgot about Suge doing that to the chronic follow up, thanks for reminding me about that Like I said Suge is a black devil
did and still does..........last time I checked he was still in Yukmouth's group The Regime......

to this day I still have zero clue if him and Pac actually knew each other. I remember him popping up a year or two after Pac's death and he was working with all Pac's people........

and talking about Chronic 2000 and Too Gangsta 4 Radio made me go dig them up......the intro off the first 200 disc should be mentioned in the best intros of all time convo....... at Treach insinuating that Pac's alive at the end of the track

and I forgot how great Too Gangsta 4 Radio was.......

Im bout to start a duel appreciation thread for them......
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 SmokeyTheBlunt said:
did and still does..........last time I checked he was still in Yukmouth's group The Regime......

to this day I still have zero clue if him and Pac actually knew each other. I remember him popping up a year or two after Pac's death and he was working with all Pac's people........

and talking about Chronic 2000 and Too Gangsta 4 Radio made me go dig them up......the intro off the first 200 disc should be mentioned in the best intros of all time convo....... at Treach insinuating that Pac's alive at the end of the track

and I forgot how great Too Gangsta 4 Radio was.......

Im bout to start a duel appreciation thread for them......
Damn he still does too, that's wild man Those are really his genuine friends.

Also yeah man you should do appreciation thread for those albums. Those albums were something else man
 2 years ago '06        #1855
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 Guvnor said:
Damn he still does too, that's wild man Those are really his genuine friends.

Also yeah man you should do appreciation thread for those albums. Those albums were something else man
its a trip.........

and I just might start that thread.........
 2 years ago '07        #1856
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2pac never smashed Faith Evans.

So is this true or not?
 1 year ago '10        #1857
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good facts
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- There's a documents out which recites a jail call between BG and a friend ( a notorious k!ller in the NO) in which they joke about that time BG got too loaded to go out and k!ll somebody

- BG has heavy ties to telly hankton and the hankton family (google him)

- birdmans nephew "bulletproof" an original member of the hot boys, got k!lled by a.sscociates of another record label, after havin a lil buzz in NO

- shortly after that, their rapper got k!lled

- soulja slim's k!ller lived another 8 years after the k!lling bragging bout it

- soulja slim robbed fans after his show

- soulja slim robbed dope dealers

- turk got a couple bodies on him

- birdman paid 4 alotta hits

- wayne shot himself and claims he got shot sometimes

- bg moved weight
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 Qwes1 said:
I didn't say he was the first,I am saying he is the only one right now signed to Def Jam.
yg is
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Everything was wild from start to finish
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