ddoucette214 said: - the last songs biggie recorded were 'victory' and his verse on the 'all about the benjamins' remix (slight proof: mentions the movie donnie brasco which dropped late feb 97 which he reportedly had seen right before his death)

that's crazy bc the "all about the benjamins" verse could easily be the best verse of all-time imho.

DoobieSnax213 said: AZ (most underrated of all time) was and is the only rapper to ever get a deal off one verse (Life's a bi*ch) no demo, no nothing..true story

well I heard the same thing about mase. heard he spit the verse from the only you rmx to puff backstage at some concert in atl and was offered a deal on the spot.

boskee84 said: WHITNEY HOUSTONS A CRACKHEAD

T. Okes said: Hmmm I dunno about this one...

this is a crazy thread to read back through...

- t.i. and Wayne had beef back in like '06 rumor has it the song 'why u wanna' was directed towards Wayne and Trina (Wayne girl at the time)

- biggie sang the hooks on early versions of 'hypnotize' and 'my downfall'

- 2pac wanted to get outkast on one nation

- scarface gave pac ugk's ridin dirty to listen to shortly before he died and he was a fan of it

- ugk made a screw tape back in '96 called 'chapter 182: ridin dirty' flowing over some now classics beats such as biggies 'juicy' lady of rage 'Afro puffs' and even the 'fu*k my car' beat before it came out

- there's a 'Afro puffs' remix from '94 with snoop on it

- a leaked shawty redd produced 'go Getta' remix is out there

- biggie busta rhymes and nas were going to make a track produced by j dilla in 1996 that ended up being 'dangerous mcs' but biggie thew shots at pac on it and busta didn't wanna get caught up in the beef so it got scrapped

- there's an old Dmx song called 'u remind me' dissing Mary j blige

- Ice cubes first solo album was supposed to drop in 1989 under ruthless records, amerikkkas most wanted was classic and one of my favorite albums but a cube solo album with dre/yella production and more nwa collabs would've been fire

- an unused johnny j beat meant for 2pac just leaked about a month ago

- there is an original version of cam'rons 'what means the world to you' that is more explicit.

- the blueprint by jay z was recorded in only a couple of days

- biggie wrote the whole junior mafia conspiracy album

- the biggie and lil kim interlude on ready to die was indeed staged (confirmed by easy mo bee i think)

- nashiem myrick, producer of a lot of bad boy songs back in the day, said 'who shot ya?' was the first beat he ever produced and was a dj prior to that

- bone thugs n harmony's 'foe tha love of money' sampled the 1991 song 'for the love of money' by another ruthless records rap group yomo & maulkie. a different version of the beat can also be heard at the end of the nwa skit 'dont drink that wine'

- the lox recorded a song over the 'deja vu (uptown baby)' beat before peter gunz & lord tariq got it

- the mase song 'im no k!lla' is a jay z diss and was cut from the album double up

"the lox recorded a song over the 'deja vu (uptown baby)' beat before peter gunz & lord tariq got it"

I have this song, never woulda thought

krayzie bone shot wish bone in the leg when they were about to rob a n*gga back in the days.

layzie bone's been shot in the head (skimmed the skull i think)


bizzy and pac recorded Thug Luv with Silk-E-Fyne and some other person, then Pac died so they put the rest of Bone on it and took the other 2 off

I'm just curious about Dipset and Nas beef, how that sh*t start? were they just defending Rocafella at the time, or was something behind it? and Did Jim Jones really tell Nas at Summerjam he was gunna smack off his kufi

Jet Jagu4r said: I'm just curious about Dipset and Nas beef, how that sh*t start? were they just defending Rocafella at the time, or was something behind it? and Did Jim Jones really tell Nas at Summerjam he was gunna smack off his kufi

Thats funny i was just listening to The Diplomats vol. 3 mixtape and they were talking sh*t about nas on it.

But i THINK it was just camron and them defending the roc and talking about him and it just started from there but somebody correct me if im wrong.

The kufi smacking thing was also brought up lol, if u wanna hear the track let me know idk if its on youtube or anything but its called 'real talk'.

many people may have or may have not noticed this but in 'hard knock life' jay z says '...life and times of sean carter n*gga volume 2...'

and as we know, life and times of sean carter vol 2 was changed to hard knock life and saved for vol 3 instead

Jet Jagu4r said: I'm just curious about Dipset and Nas beef, how that sh*t start? were they just defending Rocafella at the time, or was something behind it? and Did Jim Jones really tell Nas at Summerjam he was gunna smack off his kufi

There's an old Angie martinez interview u mite could still find on YouTube where cam does one of his best rants on how nas brought up dispets name in the whole jay an nas sh*t since the dips were roc artists at the time



And somebody posted that there is a much longer and raw version of what means the world to you this is true it was on the original album when it 1st came out

too cray

Jet Jagu4r said: I'm just curious about Dipset and Nas beef, how that sh*t start? were they just defending Rocafella at the time, or was something behind it? and Did Jim Jones really tell Nas at Summerjam he was gunna smack off his kufi

It started from my emo overall fav rapper Nas getting mad that Hot 97 didnt let him peform the hanging of Jayz at SummerJam.

so Nas flipped the Power switch & was dissing Funkmaster Flex, Angie Mar, Cam, Nelly & Nore. told Cam/Nore to step their game up. & told Nelly he cant be nas. dont come at a legend(Krs)

Nas was bugging

nas basically said "i like cam but his album aint talkin bout nothing" something like that basically hatin on rappers that have no substance in their lyrics.

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Yo this may sound stupid, and I wonder why I even ask this question,
but I heard this from a friend, and I just needed to bring it to this discussion.
My friend said the he have read or heard that the reason that Ice Cube left
N.W.A, was because he had been thrown out of the group because of a comment he made during an interview where he was was asked about the Rodney King incident. His comment should have been something like "The n*gga (rodney King) had it coming".
It doesn't seem likely to me, that Cube would ever say something like that,
about the incident, but I want to hear if anobody have heard this too??

JanusCL said: Yo this may sound stupid, and I wonder why I even ask this question, but I heard this from a friend, and I just needed to bring it to this discussion. My friend said the he have read or heard that the reason that Ice Cube left N.W.A, was because he had been thrown out of the group because of a comment he made during an interview where he was was asked about the Rodney King incident. His comment should have been something like "The n*gga (rodney King) had it coming". It doesn't seem likely to me, that Cube would ever say something like that, about the incident, but I want to hear if anobody have heard this too??

Eazy E was the one that said that, Ice Cube been left the group by that time

fame614 said: Eazy E was the one that said that, Ice Cube been left the group by that time

D*mn I thought it was just a rumour, if what Eazy said,
is the truth, then I kinda lost some respect for Cube,
first of all because I don't agree with him at all,
but also because I think it contracdicts a lot of what
Cube represented, making him look less real and more fake.

JanusCL said: D*mn I thought it was just a rumour, if what Eazy said, is the truth, then I kinda lost some respect for Cube, first of all because I don't agree with him at all, but also because I think it contracdicts a lot of what Cube represented, making him look less real and more fake.

and also the main reason Cube left N.W.A was because Jerry Heller and Eazy weren't paying the group their fair share of money they've earned for record sales and touring.

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Yeah it ain't hard for me to imagine a guy like Eazy had done that.

Besides that, anyone of ya'll who got any theory to what in Gods name,
2Pac don't appear on "The Doggfather" by Snoop Dogg, weren't they friends
with each other, or what??