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@ 06:22 PM 06-12-2024 icon Jun 12 - Man who set woman on fire aboard bus not criminally responsible for her death
 

 
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The man charged with killing a woman by setting her on fire on a TTC bus two years ago admitted to causing her death, but should not be found criminally responsible due a diagnosis of schizophrenia, prosecutors and defence counsel argued at the outset of his trial in Toronto.

Led into the courtrooms in handcuffs on Monday morning, Tenzin Norbu pleaded not guilty to the charge of first-degree murder in front of Superior Court Justice Maureen Forestell, presiding over the matter without a jury. Norbu was arrested and charged with the attempted murder of Nyima Dolma in June 2022, shortly after he set her on fire aboard a bus at Kipling Station in west Toronto.

Dolma and Norbu were strangers to one another at the time of the offence.

According to an agreed statement of facts, Dolma, on her way to work as a caregiver, was sitting near the back of the bus when Norbu boarded and stood behind her. In an interaction that lasted minutes, Norbu, who immigrated to Canada in 2008, asked the woman if she was Tibetan before removing a mason jar of lighter fluid from his backpack, dousing her in it, and igniting the substance, the court heard during the Crown's opening statements. She suffered burns to 60 per cent of her body, covering her face, neck, arms, and legs.

The incident was captured in its entirery on TTC surveillance footage but was not tendered as evidence in the case to protect against further collateral trauma.

After 18 days in hospital, Dolma died on July 5, 2022. She was 28 years old. At that time, police upgraded Norbu's charge to first-degree murder.

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Police say 28-year-old Nyima Dolma, pictured, died of her injuries in hospital July 5 after being set on fire by a stranger at Kipling Subway Station on June 17, 2022. (Handout /Toronto Police)

On Monday, both Crown prosecutors and Norbu’s lawyers asked Justice Forestell to find him not criminally responsible for Dolma’s death, arguing that a “long-standing” psychotic state rendered him incapable of fully understanding what he’d done.

Alina Iosif, a forensic psychiatrist who reviewed years worth of Norbu’s medical records before assessing him, told the court she believed he suffered from schizophrenia when he attacked Dolma, and that he had displayed psychotic behaviour for nearly a decade prior to the offence. Norbu had likely been misdiagnosed with depression years earlier and was medicated as such, she said.

Norbu’s delusions, Iosif testified, included ongoing preoccupations with Tibetan politics, fire, and his s3xuality, and, on several occasions, he revealed to doctors a desire to light himself on fire, she said.

“I see these themes as almost obsessional,” she testified. “The cornerstone of these themes is anchored in psychosis.”

Lawyers for Norbu did not call any evidence following Iosif’s testimony but made a joint submission that their client be found not criminally responsible.

“Mr. Norbu suffered from a longstanding diagnosis of schizophrenia,” Crown attorney Brady Donohue told the court. “There is clear evidence that he was delusional, psychotic, disorganized and for that reason, he could not understand that his act was wrong.”

In a prepared statement read out loud to the court, Dolma’s sister called the day of the attack “the darkest day of her life.”

“She had a whole life ahead of her,” she said. “I can’t put into words the pain, suffering, trauma I had to go through.”

TTC Supervisor Cameron Jackson, who tried to help Dolma after she ran from the bus and onto the Kipling platform, also gave a statement in which he said the incident still serves as a “stark reminder of the fragility of life.”

“Every interaction is tinged with a sense of detachment,” Jackson said from the witness stand. “As I grapple with the barrage of memories, I replay every moment of the incident in a desperate attempt to decipher what I could have done differently.”

Justice Forestell is scheduled to hand down her decision on Tuesday.

 https://toronto.ctvnews.c .. yers-1.6920441
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 4 weeks ago '04        #2
ItAlY2BkLyN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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fu#k all that. Insanity or schizophrenia shouldn't be an excuse. kill that crazy son of a bi#ch. Can't save everybody
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 4 weeks ago '04        #3
milan 
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This is Canada, extreme violence is remedied w counselling

And protesting for your freedom is met w draconian punishment

Main concern in this land is gdp connected to government decisions
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 4 weeks ago '14        #4
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
fu#k all that. Insanity or schizophrenia shouldn't be an excuse. kill that crazy son of a bi#ch. Can't save everybody
whats interesting about this case is that i believe both of these individuals were from Tibet. so imagine moving to another country halfway around the world. just to encounter a stranger by chance. who happens to be also from that place . and he leads to your demise.

i think he asked her on the bus if she was from tibet. she responded yes. then he proceeded to pour lighter fluid on her and light on her fire.

he was sane enough to plead not guilty
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 4 weeks ago '22        #5
Voodoogeddon  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x16
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Did he know the broad from sweet home
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 4 weeks ago '24        #6
Magic Stick  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Wow

 4 weeks ago '17        #7
R Shackleford 
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Send that psycho to the booby house then. Pretty sure those sentences are long and up to the discretion of the facility
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 4 weeks ago '16        #8
ghoti 
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Stay off those Canadian buses
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 4 weeks ago '23        #9
Yopa 
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He's insane a fukking nut

 4 weeks ago '14        #10
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 Yopa said
He's insane a fukking nut
I wonder how mentally insane person was able to immigrate to Canada. And then allowed to roam the streets , how did he get past that first check point .
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 4 weeks ago '22        #11
K Durants Brush 
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How could he literally not know what he was doing schizophrenic or not.


You have to be consciously aware that lighter fluid and fire cause things to burn. If he really wasn't aware of what he was doing the fluid could have been water, olive oil, vinegar or some other bullsh1t but nah, he specifically chose lighter fluid and fire.


That criminal defense of insanity is some bullsh1t.
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 4 weeks ago '23        #12
Vibez 
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Oh well, time to become the Punisher.

For my family, I'd enjoy the hunt
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 4 weeks ago '22        #13
Candidnigga 
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As yall know

I live in Toronto and a canadian n1gga


I drive though


Smh I heard about this last week. fu#king insane ��
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 4 weeks ago '12        #14
njrp77 
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An eye for an eye doesn’t make the world blind it just makes a bunch of one eyed motherfu#kers




We need changes worldwide on justice, it seems nobody knows the meaning of the word
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 4 weeks ago '05        #15
ice wolf  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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Trudeau’s Canada

Fvck the depraved Left
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 4 weeks ago '11        #16
Silencer  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Thats some bs right there.

Imagine if that was 1 of your relatives that was burned to death. Mother, sister, aunt, daughter, etc and theres no legal get back for it.
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 4 weeks ago '22        #17
Candidnigga 
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 njrp77 said
An eye for an eye doesn’t make the world blind it just makes a bunch of one eyed motherfu#kers




We need changes worldwide on justice, it seems nobody knows the meaning of the word
Amen

 4 weeks ago '07        #18
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x91
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At the outset of his trial on Monday, both Crown prosecutors and Norbu’s lawyers asked Forestell to find Norbu not criminally responsible for Dolma’s death, arguing that a “long-standing” psychotic state rendered him incapable of fully understanding what he’d done.
you find all kinds of goodies when you move past the emotionally charged and sensationalized news clip

After 18 days in hospital, Dolma died on July 5, 2022. She was 28 years old. At that time, police upgraded Norbu's charge to first-degree murder.
at some point, we need to end this detachment with reality

and stop letting primal groupthink herd mentality emotions steer the ship

first degree murder is 100% dependent on premeditation

they had zero evidence that this was planned and targeted

it's a fu#ked up story, but it ain't like dude is free living the life

At the time of the attack, Norbu was under the belief that members of the Tibetan community hated him and that Dolma was recording him on video, Forestell told the court Tuesday.
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 4 weeks ago '16        #19
postemupndunkit 
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 ice wolf said
Trudeau’s Canada

Fvck the depraved Left
Blaming Trudeau is insanity , you know good and well Canada has always been lenient and opposed long a$s sentences
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 4 weeks ago '16        #20
postemupndunkit 
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 Candidn1gga said
As yall know

I live in Toronto and a canadian n1gga


I drive though


Smh I heard about this last week. fu#king insane ��
Is driving safer tho?

Every time I touch the 401 between Pearson and Yonge I pray, 410 I pray

sh1t is out of hand man

 4 weeks ago '22        #21
Candidnigga 
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 postemupndunkit said
Is driving safer tho?

Every time I touch the 401 between Pearson and Yonge I pray, 410 I pray

sh1t is out of hand man
LMFAOOOOO

Is driving safer than being on public transit with other people ?




Yes n1gga driving is safer



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 4 weeks ago '16        #22
postemupndunkit 
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 Candidn1gga said
LMFAOOOOO

Is driving safer than being on public transit with other people ?




Yes n1gga driving is safer




LMAO stay with me

Think about it b, how many accidents you see on the 400 series highways versus how many times you hear about someone getting attacked on the TTC ?

I work in Sauga bro these streets are mod rn

 4 weeks ago '22        #23
Candidnigga 
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 postemupndunkit said
LMAO stay with me

Think about it b, how many accidents you see on the 400 series highways versus how many times you hear about someone getting attacked on the TTC ?

I work in Sauga bro these streets are mod rn
Bro

There's not way you can compare


Ttc vs driving

Let's break it down


Ttc
-rush hour (packed buses, trains)
- kids (othe people's kids, teenagers finishing school
-homeless people
-delays
-being attacked, having your sh1t stolen

Driving
-rush hour traffic
-accidents (that doesn't happen THAT often)
-consutruction
-parking


Listen

I'm taking driving >

I dont have to deal with people and be in my car in peace



Transit only make sense if your going DT.... or to a sports event

That's it homie lmao

 4 weeks ago '08        #24
LevelHeaded 
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 Vibez said
Oh well, time to become the Punisher.

For my family, I'd enjoy the hunt
i prefer death wish in my analogy

but yeah the insanity thing, id have to hear more about the case to understand why they were able to put that conviction on it. maybe he just has a good a$s lawyer

 4 weeks ago '14        #25
strungout  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x29 OP
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 yola said
you find all kinds of goodies when you move past the emotionally charged and sensationalized news clip


at some point, we need to end this detachment with reality

and stop letting primal groupthink herd mentality emotions steer the ship

first degree murder is 100% dependent on premeditation

they had zero evidence that this was planned and targeted

it's a fu#ked up story, but it ain't like dude is free living the life
he boarded a bus with lighter fluid and a match. is that not premeditation ???
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why wasn't he carrying vegetable oil or olive oil....or canola oil....?? why wasn't he carrying lubrication and a dildo ???? no he was carrying things that could specifically harm someone ...

say something...

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