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An annual Pentagon report on extremism within the ranks reveals that 78 service members were suspected of advocating for the overthrow of the U.S. government and another 44 were suspected of engaging or supporting terrorism.

The report released Thursday by the Defense Department inspector general revealed that in fiscal 2023 there were 183 allegations of extremism across all the branches of military, broken down not only into efforts to overthrow the government and terrorism but also advocating for widespread discrimination or violence to achieve political goals.

The statistics indicate the military continues to grapple with extremism following its public denunciations and a stand-down across the services ordered by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in 2021. Furthermore, the numbers do not make it clear whether the military's approach is working. In 2021, the year the data was first released to Congress, there were 270 allegations of extremist activities. In 2022, that figure dropped to 146 before rebounding over the past year.


The Army had the most allegations in fiscal 2023 with 130 soldiers suspected of participation in extremist activity. The Air Force suspected 29 airmen; the Navy and Marine Corps reported 10 service members each. For the first time, the inspector general also reported numbers for the Space Force as a separate entity from the other services -- it suspected four Guardians of extremism.

The IG report also included instances of alleged criminal gang activity: There were 58 allegations of gang activity across the military.

However, the report did note that, out of all the suspected extremism and criminal gang activity, 68 of the total cases were investigated and cleared or deemed unsubstantiated.

In the U.S., extremist activity, including neo-n@zi, white supremacist and anti-government movements, has been growing, and numerous violent plots by veterans and even active-duty troops have been thwarted in recent years. Experts on extremist movements have warned about the growing potential of more violence and future attacks, similar to the Oklahoma City federal building bombing in 1995 that ki1led 168 and was carried out by an Army veteran.

In February, a former National Guardsman, Brandon Russell, who founded the Atomwaffen Division, a neo-n@zi hate group, was charged with plotting to blow up Baltimore's electrical grid and cause as much suffering as possible. Russell, who allegedly kept a framed photo of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, was sentenced to five years in prison in 2018 after an arrest in Florida for possessing explosives.

In the wake of the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol building, the Pentagon tried to make a show of dealing with the problem of extremism among troops after it became clear that veterans as well as some active-duty troops were among the mob that stormed the halls of Congress in an effort to halt the certification of the 2020 election.

Military.com has reported that many of those efforts -- including the military-wide extremism training stand-down ordered by Austin -- were largely symbolic and were widely considered as just another box for commanders to check.

One active-duty noncommissioned officer said that, aside from the fact that no one was paying attention at the stand-down briefing he attended, the commander giving the lecture was "talking about what he thought were radical groups like Black Lives Matter."

The idea that far-left groups are just as problematic as far-right ones is a popular talking point among conservatives and Republican lawmakers. However, law enforcement officials and experts who study the topic have consistently noted that far-right groups espousing anti-government and white supremacist views are the biggest threat to the U.S. today.

The report also revealed that other efforts such as screening prospective recruits before enlistment are not working as well as intended.

Some recruiters did not complete all of the screening steps and "as a result, military service recruiters may not have identified all applications with extremist or criminal gang associations," according to the inspector general report.

"Further, the audit found that one military service entered data indicating applicants disclosed extremist or gang associations even though the applicants had not made such disclosures," the IG said, but it did not reveal which of the services falsely accused some of its recruits of having extremist ties.

What the report does make clear, however, is that when allegations are made, they are being referred for investigation, and when allegations are substantiated, some action is taken.

Of all the extremist and gang activity allegations, 135 were reported to military or civilian law enforcement, and 109 of the allegations were reported to another DoD organization or official.

Furthermore, 69 of all the allegations were substantiated at the time the report was written and the vast majority of those -- 50 -- were handled through administrative actions. That included involuntary discharge for 19 and counseling in three instances, while 17 more were handled by nonjudicial punishment and two went to court-martial.

There were no substantiated cases of extremism or gang activity where no action was taken.

While these figures, compared with the overall size of the services, are small, research and experts say that military service members and veterans pose an outsized danger to communities when they go down the path of extremism, given their increased familiarity with firearms and ability to organize and plan effectively.

In 2020, an Air Force sergeant at Travis Air Force Base in California pulled up to a federal courthouse in Oakland, California, in a white van and opened fire on security guards, ki1ling one before going on the run and murdering a county sheriff's deputy a week later as part of a larger plan to incite a civil war.

Also in 2020, members of a group that included two Marines and styled itself as a "modern day SS" were arrested on allegations that they were plotting to destroy the power grid in the northwest. U.S. court records in that case say members discussed recruiting other veterans, stole military equipment, asked others to buy explosives, and discussed plans to manufacture firearms.


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 3 months ago '18        #2
DUCEDUCE  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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fu#king trumpers
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 3 months ago '15        #3
Holdino  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x23
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Not far fetched. Sounds like some sh1t from The Rock movie with Connery



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 3 months ago '13        #4
mkhrt92 
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It's funny how the areas in which they want to attack are primarily white. They some truly backwards a$s thinking motherfu#kers.

"Hey, let's bomb the Helena, Montana power grid. That will show em"!!!
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 3 months ago '17        #5
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x27
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In the U.S., extremist activity, including neo-n@zi, white supremacist and anti-government movements, has been growing, and numerous violent plots by veterans and even active-duty troops have been thwarted in recent years. Experts on extremist movements have warned about the growing potential of more violence and future attacks, similar to the Oklahoma City federal building bombing in 1995 that ki1led 168 and was carried out by an Army veteran.

The idea that far-left groups are just as problematic as far-right ones is a popular talking point among conservatives and Republican lawmakers. However, law enforcement officials and experts who study the topic have consistently noted that far-right groups espousing anti-government and white supremacist views are the biggest threat to the U.S. today.

@🔗 you and your MAGA cult are the greatest threat.


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 3 months ago '04        #6
zone3cp 
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One thing about the military…..They have undercover snitches in all social circles. From the gangsters, druggies, to the red necks.


OSI got a lot of my homies kicked out the MF in the Air Force.

Edit….They have MF’s who go undercover to infiltrate all social circles. It’s MF’s who will be tatted up with confederate flags that will be undercover in trumpster circles or a undercover black or latino dude who trap and gangbang on the side. they position these MF’s at every base. That sh1t wicked AF. The government has a lot of sh1t already thought out.


Last edited by zone3cp; 12-06-2023 at 07:28 PM..
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 3 months ago '04        #7
cledee23 
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Some of y'all Trumpsters are out of control. You guys only want Trump. You don't even want any other Republican.
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 3 months ago '05        #8
projectd06 
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These idiots still think the president runs the country. We got thinkers and doers and these cats ain't the thinkers.
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 3 months ago '15        #9
Lord Funkington 
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Elements of extremism will always exist in the military. Becoming disillusioned isn't difficult and can spark the need for vengeance on the basis of how you feel things SHOULD be. It doesn't hurt that you also get rigorous training on how to neutralize people and things efficiently.
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 3 months ago '05        #10
HARBINGER  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Holdino said 🔗
Not far fetched. Sounds like some sh1t from The Rock movie with Connery



remember this being a damn good movie
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 3 months ago '14        #11
RasheedLateef  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Lord Funkington said 🔗
Elements of extremism will always exist in the military. Becoming disillusioned isn't difficult and can spark the need for vengeance on the basis of how you feel things SHOULD be. It doesn't hurt that you also get rigorous training on how to neutralize people and things efficiently.
Itís terrifying to think about actually. These nut jobs are willing to turn this country into an authoritarian country solely to worship 45. Weíve even seen pro fascism takes on here from some of the usual suspects. Iím willing to bet half of them donít even live in the states
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 3 months ago '13        #12
yunghuss973 
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Imagine joining the Military thinking you’re fighting for your country and defending “democracy” then finding out the reality you’re just a pawn for Criminal Fake Hebrews on stolen land.
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 3 months ago '15        #13
Lord Funkington 
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 RasheedLateef said 🔗
Itís terrifying to think about actually. These nut jobs are willing to turn this country into an authoritarian country solely to worship 45. Weíve even seen pro fascism takes on here from some of the usual suspects. Iím willing to bet half of them donít even live in the states
That's a whole other can of worms. I've had a few users on here tell me that they legitimately want a dictator. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of these accounts are from troll farms.
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 3 months ago '23        #14
Yopa 
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What exactly are those yt boys angry about , we have enough racism so they can thrive . Do they really hate negroes that much ?
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 3 months ago '20        #15
Bakwaas 
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 Naga Sadow said 🔗
In the U.S., extremist activity, including neo-n@zi, white supremacist and anti-government movements, has been growing, and numerous violent plots by veterans and even active-duty troops have been thwarted in recent years. Experts on extremist movements have warned about the growing potential of more violence and future attacks, similar to the Oklahoma City federal building bombing in 1995 that ki1led 168 and was carried out by an Army veteran.

The idea that far-left groups are just as problematic as far-right ones is a popular talking point among conservatives and Republican lawmakers. However, law enforcement officials and experts who study the topic have consistently noted that far-right groups espousing anti-government and white supremacist views are the biggest threat to the U.S. today.

@🔗 you and your MAGA cult are the greatest threat.


This pic had me

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 3 months ago '09        #16
GREAT1NE  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 yunghuss973 said 🔗
Imagine joining the Military thinking you’re fighting for your country and defending “democracy” then finding out the reality you’re just a pawn for Criminal Fake Hebrews on stolen land.
You get stationed at places like Syria (illegally) just to steal resources lol
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 3 months ago '11        #17
shellz386  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 3 months ago '17        #18
Bradydidit1109 
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Traitors to the U.S. should be hanged, it’s written
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 3 months ago '20        #19
JLH2121 
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Trump brainwashed the hell out of these people. You can’t tell them anything about Trump. It’s really sad.
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 3 months ago '17        #20
Bradydidit1109 
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 cledee23 said 🔗
Some of y'all Trumpsters are out of control. You guys only want Trump. You don't even want any other Republican.
Thatís called d1ck riding

 3 months ago '11        #21
awww  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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These agents and cia agents on here mad at this story, find any and every way to blame trump lol. Man do I love trump he has so much clout in the world a true president. And I’m black
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 3 months ago '17        #22
Bradydidit1109 
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 Lord Funkington said 🔗
That's a whole other can of worms. I've had a few users on here tell me that they legitimately want a dictator. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of these accounts are from troll farms.
Itís the same dude. His alts are always in the threads at the same time and disappear at the same time. He responds on them then forgets what he said from which account. Thats why I drag it out just to embarra$s him

 3 months ago '22        #23
Tirade  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Fake a$s story
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 3 months ago '23        #24
Yopa 
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 JLH2121 said 🔗
Trump brainwashed the hell out of these people. You canít tell them anything about Trump. Itís really sad.
Those people are just bitter racist who want their country back
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 3 months ago '23        #25
Yopa 
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 Tirade said 🔗
Fake a$s story
Racism & bigotry is real sir , it plays out in real estate , banking , at work , dealing with law enforcement & the judicial systems . Qualified immunity & civil asset forfeiture , border patrol tearing up people's vehicles & taking your hard earned possessions


Last edited by Yopa; 12-07-2023 at 09:02 AM..
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