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Apple to Adopt RCS Messaging Standard for Better Interoperability With Android Devices https://t.co/1xeYSwu0mh pic.twitter.com/TEZDcQvJ5W

— MacRumors.com (@MacRumors) November 16, 2023

RCS becoming a standard is gonna make me def more interested in android again.

Apple for messaging won’t be that special anymore.

Apple boys won't like this

Andrefrbk said 🔗 ↪🔗 RCS becoming a standard is gonna make me def more interested in android again. Apple for messaging won’t be that special anymore.

You’re on dope if you think they are gonna make this easy. Apple will find a way to make this inconvenient to push people to buy iPhones.

iMessage will have exclusives feature to make sure they have a competitive advantage over Android.

The biggest issue with RCS is E2EE.

justin747 said 🔗 You’re on dope if you think they are gonna make this easy. Apple will find a way to make this inconvenient to push people to buy iPhones. iMessage will have exclusives feature to make sure they have a competitive advantage over Android. The biggest issue with RCS is E2EE.

If you say so lol

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Billions of people will soon be able to see read and read, typing, high res video and photos. I mean really what more do you need? Just enabling RCS to me is enough for the avg user. I don’t do anything else on Imesssge. Ima grown a$s man b.

Fuk I look like flooding my people with hearts and balloons all day.

Andrefrbk said 🔗 If you say so lol ↪🔗 Billions of people will soon be able to see read and read, typing, high res video and photos. I mean really what more do you need? Just enabling RCS to me is enough for the avg user. I don’t do anything else on Imesssge. Ima grown a$s man b. Fuk I look like flooding a people with hearts and balloons all day.

I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s going to be that easy. It’s not as simple as just “enabling RCS.”

Picture and Video quality will be better, but not iMessage quality. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any typing indicators.

The lack of consistent encryption will be what Apple uses as a way to gimp RCS.

Cool.

Nothing phone 2 is bringing iMessage to there phone this Friday Nov. 16, but not with Apples blessing

J_Clarity13 said 🔗 Cool. Nothing phone 2 is bringing iMessage to there phone this Friday Nov. 16, but not with Apples blessing

Link that. That’s crazy!

Hmm

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Back to android then

Aries said 🔗 Apple boys won't like this

Most Apple fans probably don’t even know what RCS TBH.

This won’t really affect iPhone users. Android people are the ones who want iMessage. If you have an iPhone then nothing really changes.

J_Clarity13 said 🔗 Cool. Nothing phone 2 is bringing iMessage to there phone this Friday Nov. 16, but not with Apples blessing

Using that sh1t giving a 3rd party hired by Nothing to use your data to send and receive iMessages

DO NOT give them access to your text messages or iCloud account ever.

justin747 said 🔗 Using that sh1t giving a 3rd party hired by Nothing to use your data to send and receive iMessages DO NOT give them access to your text messages or iCloud account ever.

Yeah that shyt hella sus. I would not use that.

justin747 said 🔗 I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s going to be that easy. It’s not as simple as just “enabling RCS.” Picture and Video quality will be better, but not iMessage quality. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any typing indicators. The lack of consistent encryption will be what Apple uses as a way to gimp RCS.

It really is that easy. Once they have the RCS implementation ready (using their own backend or one from a 3rd-party like Google), Apple will simply update Messages to enable RCS. Typing indicators are included in the RCS standard so they will be there day 1.

RCS messages are encrypted on Android by default so I doubt Apple will want to be seen as the insecure link in the message chain by not supporting E2EE. All-in-all, this is a win for consumers (primarily in the US since most other countries don't use SMS as much) . Standard messaging will be better for everyone. Apple should have done this ages ago instead of having their hand forced by the EU.

justin747 said 🔗 Using that sh1t giving a 3rd party hired by Nothing to use your data to send and receive iMessages DO NOT give them access to your text messages or iCloud account ever.

Obviously I won’t be using it, but don’t think for a second your iPhone is not being surveillance

Y.G. said 🔗 It really is that easy. Once they have the RCS implementation ready (using their own backend or one from a 3rd-party like Google), Apple will simply update Messages to enable RCS. Typing indicators are included in the RCS standard so they will be there day 1. RCS messages are encrypted on Android by default so I doubt Apple will want to be seen as the insecure link in the message chain by not supporting E2EE. All-in-all, this is a win for consumers (primarily in the US since most other countries don't use SMS as much) . Standard messaging will be better for everyone. Apple should have done this ages ago instead of having their hand forced by the EU.

I agree that Apple should have done this ages ago. They just didn’t have any incentive TBH. iMessage works. It was everyone else’s job to play catch up.

I disagree that it’s as easy as flipping a switch for certain things tho, specifically typing indicators. Apple is gonna stronghold a lot of that sh1t. A lot of Apple 1st party apps are frustrating to develop for intentionally


AFAIK Google’s RCS isn’t E2EE by default. It’s encrypted specifically when using Google Messages. So already we have fragmentation issues because there’s Jibe vs Carrier RCS (I assume they will all probably move to Jibe)

I don’t think this is a bad thing and I’m not affected either way because I moved to Apple. This is objectively good news but I don’t think this is a slam dunk like people are assuming.

There WILL be annoying limitations for Android users.

J_Clarity13 said 🔗 Obviously I won’t be using it, but don’t think for a second your iPhone is not being surveillance

There’s a lot of limitations of what can be seen with an iPhone vs an Android. Apple locks sh1t down pretty tight. It’s hard for 3rd party apps to talk to 1st party apps.

I don’t give a fu#k about surveillance tho TBH. The phone can’t read my mind so only the data I give it can be watched

And most of the surveillance is to sell you ads. They don’t give a fu#k if you watch pr0n. They just want to make sure they try and convince you to buy products

The people most worried about being watched are the people who do absolutely nothing with their lives worth watching.

justin747 said 🔗 There’s a lot of limitations of what can be seen with an iPhone vs an Android. Apple locks sh1t down pretty tight. It’s hard for 3rd party apps to talk to 1st party apps. I don’t give a fu#k about surveillance tho TBH. The phone can’t read my mind so only the data I give it can be watched And most of the surveillance is to sell you ads. They don’t give a fu#k if you watch pr0n. They just want to make sure they try and convince you to buy products The people most worried about being watched are the people who do absolutely nothing with their lives worth watching.

I’m just saying it’s there no matter if you try to defend it.

J_Clarity13 said 🔗 I’m just saying it’s there no matter if you try to defend it.

Apple and iMessage privacy is decades ahead of Google, but I don’t care either way. At all.


I don’t worry about that kinda sh1t. I know how these things work so “surveillance” ain’t a concern to me.

There’s clearly one platform that’s OBJECTIVELY better tho.

justin747 said 🔗 I agree that Apple should have done this ages ago. They just didn’t have any incentive TBH. iMessage works. It was everyone else’s job to play catch up. I disagree that it’s as easy as flipping a switch for certain things tho, specifically typing indicators. Apple is gonna stronghold a lot of that sh1t. A lot of Apple 1st party apps are frustrating to develop for intentionally AFAIK Google’s RCS isn’t E2EE by default. It’s encrypted specifically when using Google Messages. So already we have fragmentation issues because there’s Jibe vs Carrier RCS (I assume they will all probably move to Jibe) I don’t think this is a bad thing and I’m not affected either way because I moved to Apple. This is objectively good news but I don’t think this is a slam dunk like people are assuming. There WILL be annoying limitations for Android users.

It is as easy as flipping a switch for all RCS features included in Universal Profile. Typing indicators are included in the Universal Profile spec that Apple is using, so that'll be there day 1.

What isn't included in the Universal Profile spec is the Signal protocol that Google uses for E2EE in RCS. TLS encryption is included in Universal Profile but that isn't end-to-end so it isn't as secure as the Signal protocol. It's really up to Apple how secure they want their implementation to be. End-to-end is preferred but TLS is better than nothing.

Either way, this is a win for consumers since there will be a standard way to send high-quality pictures and videos without the need for a 3rd-party app.

Y.G. said 🔗 It is as easy as flipping a switch for all RCS features included in Universal Profile. Typing indicators are included in the Universal Profile spec that Apple is using, so that'll be there day 1.

I’m not married to this opinion so if I’m wrong I’ll gladly take the L. This is just me sitting on the sidelines as an observer cause I’m not affected either way.

I don’t think so tho. I really don’t.

Spoke on this a year ago.

Jago said 🔗 Stuff this is why the EU passed the Digital Services Act. Now Apple will be forced to open up iMessage to 3rd-party clients. Should have enabled RCS when you had the chance to keep these politicians at bay.

Looks like Tim had a "come to Jesus" moment.

J_Clarity13 said 🔗 Obviously I won’t be using it, but don’t think for a second your iPhone is not being surveillance

Left mobile security in 2021

At that time the biggest phone hacking groups weren't buying iPhone exploits anymore because they had so many in the vault

I have an Iphone..... but what is the difference between imessage and regular text? I know grown adults arent making a big deal about differnt color circles.

I fu#k with apple
And I can promise you a lot of people are only with it because of that blue bubble

Me included

justin747 said 🔗 You’re on dope if you think they are gonna make this easy. Apple will find a way to make this inconvenient to push people to buy iPhones. iMessage will have exclusives feature to make sure they have a competitive advantage over Android. The biggest issue with RCS is E2EE.

Watching football is childish but stanning a phone company over a messaging system isn't?

Andrefrbk said 🔗 ↪🔗 RCS becoming a standard is gonna make me def more interested in android again. Apple for messaging won’t be that special anymore.

i mean its still about the apple ecosystem and facetime.

And just like that no more green textsl#ts, Android wins in the end