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 14 years ago '04        #26
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told yall wut happened. but no yall didn't believe me. man yall need to listen 2 me

 07-13-2005, 04:46 PM         #27
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 Propel Water said
ahahah at people takin this thread serious
why wouldn't they take this thread serious sh*t-water?

n*ggas making jay-z<><><><>nas<><><><> posts all day it seem like the common sense thing to do was break it down

1/2 these kiddies on here with the nas jay-z greater then less then signs dont know why the fu*k they putting it there as evidenced by this thread

 07-13-2005, 05:01 PM         #28
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is dat yo chick, was done around volume to, released in the streets, nas knew it was about his babys mother, is dat your chick came out be4 mind right, if u listen to is dat your chick the jay says - "jus playin the cards chose to me, jigga man *who u supposed to be*"

in mind right bleek says " who you supposed to be, play your position"

jay was warning nas, using bleek and subliminals, jay was the king of new york at that time, it sure as hell wasnt nas wit i am and nastradamus. it is true that jay always wanted to work wit nas, but jay wasnt upset like a lil bi*ch, he was offended, because nas got the whole premise from a song from jay and jay considered him a friend since jay went on tour wit nas and large profesor and showed nas a tech, supposedly the first time nas ever held a gun, thus the line " i showed u ur first tech on tour with large proffesor, then i heard ur album, bout the tech on the dresser, yeah i sampled your voice, u was using it wrong"

 07-13-2005, 05:18 PM         #29
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
is dat yo chick, was done around volume to, released in the streets, nas knew it was about his babys mother, is dat your chick came out be4 mind right, if u listen to is dat your chick the jay says - "jus playin the cards chose to me, jigga man *who u supposed to be*"

in mind right bleek says " who you supposed to be, play your position"

jay was warning nas, using bleek and subliminals, jay was the king of new york at that time, it sure as hell wasnt nas wit i am and nastradamus. it is true that jay always wanted to work wit nas, but jay wasnt upset like a lil bi*ch, he was offended, because nas got the whole premise from a song from jay and jay considered him a friend since jay went on tour wit nas and large profesor and showed nas a tech, supposedly the first time nas ever held a gun, thus the line " i showed u ur first tech on tour with large proffesor, then i heard ur album, bout the tech on the dresser, yeah i sampled your voice, u was using it wrong"

4-5 what about jay-z sampling nas voice without his permission?

 07-13-2005, 05:23 PM         #30
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Listen to last real n*gga alive nas gives a nice breakdown of hwat happened

 07-13-2005, 05:42 PM         #31
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 48601 said
4-5 what about jay-z sampling nas voice without his permission?
anybody remember MC SERCH, well nas doesnt own publishing to ILLMATIC, mc serch, serchlite publishing owns the publishing to illmatic, therefore jay-z did get permission to sample nas' voice, jus not from nas, he also sampled nas voice on volume 1 (somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game)

- "u aint get a coin n*gga u was gettin fu*ked n/ i know who i paid god, serchlite publishing"

 07-13-2005, 05:50 PM         #32
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i personally believe jay was setting nas up since reasonable doubt, jay had the crown, he didnt need to take it, but people were scared to diss him and jay is a competitive person, no one really dissed jay before volume 3, then 50 got at him, and jay murdered him wit one line, then everyone else was silenced (no wonder no one was dissin jay) jada was throwing sublimes but beanie held that down quite well, the team was too strong at that time, jay set him up wit bleek, jay put that line in bleeks hook for wat u think of that, and jay's verse was obviously directed at someone. Is that your chick was obviously directed at someone, and jay sent more warning shots on the take over "ask nas he dont want it wit hov" then "u know who did u know wat with u know who, lets keep that between me and you", in my personal opinion Jay won by far, nas was supposed to be a mastermind hip hop head/ artist/ and jay was using some art of war sh*t on him, ether was some immature gay sh*t, while jay spit fact after fact, harsh truths, wish obviously damaged nas cuz he still talkin bout jay (honeymoon is over)

Jay does be on some commercial sh*t, but he proved he is a much deeper thinker than he shows, and solidified his spot as one of the greatest of all time.

 07-13-2005, 05:52 PM         #33
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
anybody remember MC SERCH, well nas doesnt own publishing to ILLMATIC, mc serch, serchlite publishing owns the publishing to illmatic, therefore jay-z did get permission to sample nas' voice, jus not from nas, he also sampled nas voice on volume 1 (somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game)

- "u aint get a coin n*gga u was gettin fu*ked n/ i know who i paid god, serchlite publishing"
48601 pays slumz.boxden to take wearin the 4-5's posts and twist them up any kind of way i want...

48601 ask 4-5 can he put his pic in his avatar he says no 48601 does it any ways

is that a bi*ch move on my part? or yours?

i aint trying to put you on spot im trying to make a point...real talk my n*gga

 07-13-2005, 05:55 PM         #34
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
using some art of war sh*t on him, ether was some immature gay sh*t, while jay spit fact after fact, harsh truths, wish obviously damaged nas cuz he still talkin bout jay (honeymoon is over)
im not a nas fan i never listned to any of his albums until stillmatic.. my first time hearing ILLMATIC was in february of 2005!

my point is didn't ether spit facts (as well as jokes?)

 07-13-2005, 05:58 PM         #35
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knowing that jay and nas knew each other, and jay actually considered nas an industry friend/ allie around reasonable doubt, jay probably asked nas, and nas probably said yes, but what i can tell u, is it isnt a bi*ch move if he never asked nas, nas never had a chance to say no, it was another good business move on jay's part, and it isnt jays fault nas has no businessmind and doesnt get paid for his best album. Who said jay sampled his voice without permission?

 07-13-2005, 05:59 PM         #36
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 48601 said
im not a nas fan i never listned to any of his albums until stillmatic.. my first time hearing ILLMATIC was in february of 2005!

my point is didn't ether spit facts (as well as jokes?)
wat facts?

 07-13-2005, 06:03 PM         #37
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
knowing that jay and nas knew each other, and jay actually considered nas an industry friend/ allie around reasonable doubt, jay probably asked nas, and nas probably said yes, but what i can tell u, is it isnt a bi*ch move if he never asked nas, nas never had a chance to say no, it was another good business move on jay's part, and it isnt jays fault nas has no businessmind and doesnt get paid for his best album. Who said jay sampled his voice without permission?
summer jam 2001 happened in june so it's either the august or september 2001 issue of source they did a LONG a.ss interview with nas and jay

nas said jay never asked for the sample but what struck me as odd was how come nas didn't file a lawsuit if it that serious?

 07-13-2005, 06:08 PM         #38
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jay got permission from serch who was nas' man, and he was the one who fu*ked nas out of publishing, jay aint wrong for askin the right people for the sample, why should he ask nas when nas has no power over the sample?

 14 years ago '04        #39
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Nas and Bleek we're throwing subliminals at each other. But, the beef with Jay all started when Nas got that call, dude on the other line saying Jay dissed him and Mobb Deep at SummerJam

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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
jay got permission from serch who was nas' man, and he was the one who fu*ked nas out of publishing, jay aint wrong for askin the right people for the sample, why should he ask nas when nas has no power over the sample?
i think its more of respect than who actually owns it like u dont own the sh*t but i would more comfortable with ur permission/blessing since we kinda koo n sh*t but like real job its bussiness ova so called friends/associaties


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 07-13-2005, 06:34 PM         #41
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i think nas k!lled him on ether to be honest

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