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Not saying this is the reason but I'll throw this out there for educational/historical purposes... I've heard stories of labels having artist doing "promo tours" for free based on the the label telling the artist it would be good promo. Artist not knowing any better, trying to build their career, thinking it would get them out the hood, give them a chance to travel etc. would do it. The label would pay for their travel, hotels and give em a few dollars for food. What the artist didn't know was that the label was the one getting ALL of the show money while the artist didn't know of any of the business involved. This bs might still go on to this day. This situation MAY have been something similar.

you heard him rap? 100 dollar was too much

The fallout with Big Syke was rumored to have been something similar when Pac got to DR. Frank Alexander said that Pac wanted Syke to wait to until Pac got his Makaveli/Euthanasia label up and running to sign him but Syke went to Suge behind his back and tried to sign to DR. After that, Pac was done with Syke.

The Biggie situation is also similar with Big claiming Thug Life and then ditching that exclusively for Bad Boy. I don't know if Pac wanted to sign him too (or if he even could) but he definitely put in on the artist development side to want to get something out of it.

2pac was in his early 20s.

BitRate12 said you heard him rap? 100 dollar was too much

i don't know how i accidently propped this bs. if you don't go sit down somewhere.

kuul said 2pac was in his early 20s.

Weren’t they all? I luv how only toopock gets the “age/being to young excuse” like they all wasn’t around the same age lol

114th acct f*g**t

skillahmang said 114th acct f*g**t

U ate brkfst yet? cuz u sound pissed bro..

bigjoshi2002 said Not saying this is the reason but I'll throw this out there for educational/historical purposes... I've heard stories of labels having artist doing "promo tours" for free based on the the label telling the artist it would be good promo. Artist not knowing any better, trying to build their career, thinking it would get them out the hood, give them a chance to travel etc. would do it. The label would pay for their travel, hotels and give em a few dollars for food. What the artist didn't know was that the label was the one getting ALL of the show money while the artist didn't know of any of the business involved. This bs might still go on to this day. This situation MAY have been something similar.

A similar situation hapoened with Kevin Gates bringing Geux Yella and Jay Lewis. They went on tour expecting to be given a free feature and money but Gates let them on tour for exposure. They ended up dissing Gates, but years later tried to apologize and reconcile after realizing that was the most exposure/popularity they had in their career.

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Anyone who would pay these n*ggaz over 100 dollars a show is insane Big Syke yes. Rated R & Macadoshis fu*k no

Frank Lucas said U ate brkfst yet? cuz u sound pissed bro..

You making multiple threads/corny jokes on a n*gga been dead for almost 30 years. Whats up with you, he fu*ked your moms and you found the tape?

The Almighty240 said You making multiple threads/corny jokes on a n*gga been dead for almost 30 years. Whats up with you, he fu*ked your moms and you found the tape?

I uploaded the tape u wanna dub it? Lol

Frank Lucas said I uploaded the tape u wanna dub it? Lol

Making better thread you obsessed weirdo, you made 5 pac threads today making corny jokes. You dont think thats weird?

The Almighty240 said Making better thread you obsessed weirdo, you made 5 pac threads today making corny jokes. You dont think thats weird?

Not five 25 I can tell you didn’t excel in math bro lol

bigjoshi2002 said Not saying this is the reason but I'll throw this out there for educational/historical purposes... I've heard stories of labels having artist doing "promo tours" for free based on the the label telling the artist it would be good promo. Artist not knowing any better, trying to build their career, thinking it would get them out the hood, give them a chance to travel etc. would do it. The label would pay for their travel, hotels and give em a few dollars for food. What the artist didn't know was that the label was the one getting ALL of the show money while the artist didn't know of any of the business involved. This bs might still go on to this day. This situation MAY have been something similar.

this don't go on today because Hurricane Chris said Pimp C told him hey why you doing promo shows for free , if you don't ask for a check

that's why i don't get upset when the artist get over on the system that's been screwing artists for years

GrindPOWER$ said this don't go on today because Hurricane Chris said Pimp C told him hey why you doing promo shows for free , if you don't ask for a check that's why i don't get upset when the artist get over on the system that's been screwing artists for years

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bigjoshi2002 said The fallout with Big Syke was rumored to have been something similar when Pac got to DR. Frank Alexander said that Pac wanted Syke to wait to until Pac got his Makaveli/Euthanasia label up and running to sign him but Syke went to Suge behind his back and tried to sign to DR. After that, Pac was done with Syke. The Biggie situation is also similar with Big claiming Thug Life and then ditching that exclusively for Bad Boy. I don't know if Pac wanted to sign him too (or if he even could) but he definitely put in on the artist development side to want to get something out of it.

This just dropped. He's saying the same thing.

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The music industry is grimey. This reminds me of the Meg The Stallion situation with Crawford and Roc Nation.

kuul said 2pac was in his early 20s.

That seems to be lost on a lot of these stories. Almost all of Pacs decisions that weren't the best or flipping out can be directed back to this dude was still a kid.

NahLij said That seems to be lost on a lot of these stories. Almost all of Pacs decisions that weren't the best or flipping out can be directed back to this dude was still a kid.

He also seemed to be a follower emotional young man even with all his knowledge and smarts..He was erratic and reckless and biggie was actually a year younger and didn’t move the way toopock moved.. y’all need to step outside ur fandom bubble and start holding these rappers accountable.. Y’all blame everything else on any excuse y’all can find and it’s sickening

Frank Lucas said He also seemed to be a follower emotional young man even with all his knowledge and smarts..He was erratic and reckless and biggie was actually a year younger and didn’t move the way toopock moved.. y’all need to step outside ur fandom bubble and start holding these rappers accountable.. Y’all blame everything else on any excuse y’all can find and it’s sickening

Who do you know signed to badboy that did anything outside of puffy directions. They all went kinda nuts after badboy.

kuul said Who do you know signed to badboy that did anything outside of puffy directions. They all went kinda nuts after badboy.

Who from Badboy was wilding like toopock?

bigjoshi2002 said The Biggie situation is also similar with Big claiming Thug Life and then ditching that exclusively for Bad Boy. I don't know if Pac wanted to sign him too (or if he even could) but he definitely put in on the artist development side to want to get something out of it.

Big wanted to be down with Thug life and asked Pac to put him on

Pac had too many legal issues and told Big he should sign with Badboy

Pac was promoting Badboy, letting him open at his shows, wearing Bad Boy merch for his love for Biggie

Pac was one of Bigs biggest supporters introduced him to Snoop, Sway and many more

There would be no BIG without a Pac....

ProfessionalDon said Big wanted to be down with Thug life and asked Pac to put him on Pac had too many legal issues and told Big he should sign with Badboy Pac was promoting Badboy, letting him open at his shows, wearing Bad Boy merch for his love for Biggie Pac was one of Bigs biggest supporters introduced him to Snoop, Sway and many more There would be no BIG without a Pac....

Nope not before Twitter. Nice try but thats not how it worked back then.

Radio was king.

Without Shock G and Digital Underground, there would be no Tupac. Because not only was he on stage dancing, they featured him on a huge single. Major radio play.

Truth about Big and Pac they had no hit records together so the public didnt even know they were close like that. It wasnt until

1. BIG rapid sucess with "Ready to Die"
2. Tupac tell all interview in the VIBE ironically named "Ready to Live".


Just from the title alone you see the play was for VIBE to capitalize off of BIGs publicity. And of course Tupac didnt dissappoint riding "Who Shot Ya" narritive and implicating Bad Boy playing a role in the Quad shooting.


Truth is Pac fame skyrocketted due to the controversy with the number 1 artist, BIG, who was EVERYWHERE thanks to BADBOY.


Without BIG, Bad Boy Records, "Who Shot Ya" Tupac wouldve remained a B list rapper that labels dropped.