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OP i see ads for cyber security certs and the popular google cert as well, are they worth it?

knew this was an OrganizedChaos thread when i saw it on the front page

good stuff, OP.

Brody said 🔗 OP i see ads for cyber security certs and the popular google cert as well, are they worth it?

The amount of jobs that open up with cyber certs is amazing. My wife is a senior cybersecurity analyst and some of those certs don’t play at all. If you can commit, pass, and apply yourself, you’ll be on the way to a bag.

A lot of people in that industry work remote with multiple full time jobs that the others have no idea about.

mateo said 🔗 The amount of jobs that open up with cyber certs is amazing. My wife is a senior cybersecurity analyst and some of those certs don’t play at all. If you can commit, pass, and apply yourself, you’ll be on the way to a bag. A lot of people in that industry work remote with multiple full time jobs that the others have no idea about.

I assumed you needed the top tier clearance with a polygraph. I’ve seen that on a couple of listings.


I always thought “security” means you need to be authorized to be in that field

mateo said 🔗 The amount of jobs that open up with cyber certs is amazing. My wife is a senior cybersecurity analyst and some of those certs don’t play at all. If you can commit, pass, and apply yourself, you’ll be on the way to a bag. A lot of people in that industry work remote with multiple full time jobs that the others have no idea about.

Multiple full time remote jobs? How would that work? I wouldnt mind picking up another job thats near full time or full time

cube886 said 🔗 I assumed you needed the top tier clearance with a polygraph. I’ve seen that on a couple of listings. I always thought “security” means you need to be authorized to be in that field

Some do require a clearance, id say the majority of them don't. If you aren't cleared, finding a company that will sponsor you is hella hard. If you can.....

With a clearance and some entry level certs you can see real money. No clearance and you gotta be mid level to see the same. But being entry level cybersec is still mid level IT. This "get this one cert and earn 100k" sh1t is a racket unless you already got Sysadmin experience or some other IT background

JimmyCrackCorn said 🔗 Some do require a clearance, id say the majority of them don't. If you aren't cleared, finding a company that will sponsor you is hella hard. If you can..... With a clearance and some entry level certs you can see real money. No clearance and you gotta be mid level to see the same. But being entry level cybersec is still mid level IT. This "get this one cert and earn 100k" sh1t is a racket unless you already got Sysadmin experience or some other IT background

I’ve had a couple of people tell me that having a certain cert means you can command 100k. I don’t understand why someone would blow smoke like that but some of these guys are the ones selling teach courses on it.


Can you give any insights on actually getting cleared?

I remembered a story of a girl who tried to get cleared and the interviewer berated her for being a single mother. The whole thing was supposed to be a test to see if she could handle it.

mateo said 🔗 The amount of jobs that open up with cyber certs is amazing. My wife is a senior cybersecurity analyst and some of those certs don’t play at all. If you can commit, pass, and apply yourself, you’ll be on the way to a bag. A lot of people in that industry work remote with multiple full time jobs that the others have no idea about.

My homie just has security plus, but did something on a sub in the navy and he literally sits on his a$s at a major defense contractor making 118k in DFW TX. If I could go back in time, I would’ve did IT initially in the Army. Instead I thought it’d be cool to jump out of planes and sh1t lol. All good, I still came up and about to get out next month.

Brody said 🔗 OP i see ads for cyber security certs and the popular google cert as well, are they worth it?

Yes. Yes. And more yes.

Brody said 🔗 OP i see ads for cyber security certs and the popular google cert as well, are they worth it?

Yeah, even if you are familiar with the material, all teachers have different methods and IT is a field of continuous study, you’ll never know what new perspectives you’ll get from different instructors and classes.

InfoSec and NetOps are the new entry into IT for a lot of people now that thin clients and automation is set to remove most desktop/field service tech work.

KingJerz said 🔗 Multiple full time remote jobs? How would that work? I wouldnt mind picking up another job thats near full time or full time

Many of the jobs are ticket based. So they have time to close out a ticket while sitting on a zoom meeting. Some of them are stressed the F out.

cube886 said 🔗 I assumed you needed the top tier clearance with a polygraph. I’ve seen that on a couple of listings. I always thought “security” means you need to be authorized to be in that field

Depends what the job is, my wife has nuclear clearance.

METABaron said 🔗 Yeah, even if you are familiar with the material, all teachers have different methods and IT is a field of continuous study, you’ll never know what new perspectives you’ll get from different instructors and classes. InfoSec and NetOps are the new entry into IT for a lot of people now that thin clients and automation is set to remove most desktop/field service tech work.

What roles specifically do you think will be phased out in IT?

cube886 said 🔗 What roles specifically do you think will be phased out in IT?

Most low level admin jobs, machines on site nowadays are mostly thin clients that wipe everything away every night or can be repaired by install over the network.

Admin work such as scheduling meetings and taking notes/setting schedules, AI can do all that now

cube886 said 🔗 I’ve had a couple of people tell me that having a certain cert means you can command 100k. I don’t understand why someone would blow smoke like that but some of these guys are the ones selling teach courses on it. Can you give any insights on actually getting cleared? I remembered a story of a girl who tried to get cleared and the interviewer berated her for being a single mother. The whole thing was supposed to be a test to see if she could handle it.

What is the certain cert tho? CISSP? Yea you can easily get 6 figs but that aint some sh1t you can get being some geek off the street. Anyone teaching security but not the underlying technology is full of sh1t, full stop. Can't secure sh1t you don't understand.

Getting cleared is a game changer. All of my colleagues are former military and thats how they got it. You want to look for DIB companies. Chenega, BAH, SAIC, Alutiiq, GDIT, Mantech, theres hella companies. Even without a clearance you can still get paid, dont get it fu#ked up.

No matter what, get certs, use Linux, get exp on projects, get a help desk / sysadmin job, whatever you can get, touch every technology you can get your hands on, try to network if possible -- both kinds of networking are invaluable.

Something like ↪🔗 and ↪🔗might help make the path clearer.

I recommend anybody that works in IT to know the basics of cybersecurity. I am a senior lead system admin\ senior lead application analyst at my job. Everything we do must go through some cybersecurity protocol. When I interview people, that one of the most important questions that I ask them. If you dont know anything about security, that's a quick way to not get hired or get fired at any IT job.

Im in my second year of it help desk trying to see wahts the best path to get the certs

justinblaze83 said 🔗 Im in my second year of it help desk trying to see wahts the best path to get the certs

What do you want to get into and what infrastructure does your company have now? Easier to pivot to another role from within imo

JimmyCrackCorn said 🔗 What do you want to get into and what infrastructure does your company have now? Easier to pivot to another role from within imo

I wanna do the security or network , its td bank so they have pretty much everything lol.

Somebody please let me know. What would be the steps to take to get into cybersl security for someone who has no experience at all in IT and might be looking for a career change.

justinblaze83 said 🔗 I wanna do the security or network , its td bank so they have pretty much everything lol.

Pick one, get a revelant cert in it perhaps one that aligns with your companies infrastructure. If they use Cisco, get CCNA for example. Talk to that department and see if you can help out. You got the hard part done, you're already in the company.

Supa mario said 🔗 Somebody please let me know. What would be the steps to take to get into cybersl security for someone who has no experience at all in IT and might be looking for a career change.

Get IT experience. Take the Comptia A+, if thats too difficult then do the Google IT Fundamentals one first. After A+ look at Net+ or Sec+, put that you have A+ on your resume and that Net/Sec is in progress, start applying. Help Desk may be the only option, but its an option. If you can, work at a MSP as youll get hella experience quick as sh1t but you cant be too picky, get what you can. If your current company has an IT department, try to tr@nsition into it. Might be the easier path. Do that for a year or so, get more certs, refine your path, maybe go for an L2 tech, SysAdmin, or Network Engineer role. Do that for a year or two, hope to get into a SOC.

You're asking how to be a race car driver, but you don't even have your learner's permit yet so it aint gonna be sweet. It aint easy and the threads that have been going just on BX in the last two years, n1ggas aint really serious. Thats cool, trying it out, but it aint some get rich quick sh1t.

Supa mario said 🔗 Somebody please let me know. What would be the steps to take to get into cybersl security for someone who has no experience at all in IT and might be looking for a career change.

This. I'm on workers comp from an accident March with plenty of time on ny hands. Was gonna go for my cdl and still may bit I thought " why not challenge yourself?" Took Cusco classed when I was in school but that knowledge is long gone except for bits and pieces. But I would absolutely like some beginner recommendations from those who've been doing it

KingJerz said 🔗 Multiple full time remote jobs? How would that work? I wouldnt mind picking up another job thats near full time or full time

Most of the jobs use service now , you can place ticket on hold , can comment ticket called customer left vm , 3 strikes and close the ticket , have 4 jobs remote sharepoint admin , 240k all 4 jobs combined