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Fantastic Four’ Movie Gets New Writer With ‘Avatar 2’ Scribe Josh Friedman
 

 
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Marvel’s first family is getting a rewrite. Josh Friedman, who worked on Avatar: The Way of Water and developed Snowpiercer as a TNT television series, has been tapped to write the script for Marvel Studios’ Fantastic Four.

Matt Shakman, who was the key director behind Marvel series WandaVision, is on board to helm the feature that has a release date of Feb. 14, 2025, and is set to kick off Phase 6 of its storytelling universe.

Jeff Kaplan and Ian Springer were the previous writers on the project, and Friedman’s hire signals a potential change in tone. Kaplan and Springer are neophyte scribes known for their comedy scripts.

Friedman, on the other hand, is a veteran of the sci-fi genre. He co-wrote War of the Worlds, the Steven Spielberg-Tom Cruise update on the H.G. Wells classic, and then acted as the writer-creator of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the Terminator TV series that served as his first foray into the world of James Cameron. Years later, he would return to work on 2019’s Terminator: Dark Fate and was one of the writers Cameron turned to for help in world-building and crafting stories for his multi-movie Avatar franchise.

The scribe is also the show co-creator of Foundation, the ambitious Apple series adapting the Isaac Asimov stories; the second season is due to debut later this year. And he adapted for the small screen Snowpiercer, TNT’s take on the Bong Joon Ho’s sci-fi movie, although he left the show over creative differences.

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I just caught an episode of Icon Unearthed: Marvel on VICE. Now I see this article.
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 2 months ago '04        #2
NAKHI ALLAH 
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I don't care is he a comic book fan? Does he love and respect the lore? I'm tired of these directors putting their own spin on established canon


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 2 months ago '14        #3
NYSTATEOFMIND 
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
I don't care is he a comic book fan? Does he love and respect the lore? I'm tired of these directors putting their own spin on established canon
Nate Moore, Marvel Exec is against writers being Marvel fans-altho I see his point (he thinks if the writer is a fan- they will write the script line for line like the comics) I dont agree with it

Markus and Feely are they guys who wrote most of the movies the Russo Bros did- they werent comic fans but the Russos are. I think if the writer is not a fan- the director HAS TO BE

Coogler is also a comic book fan-so I think there is something there
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 2 months ago '14        #4
NYSTATEOFMIND 
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also

Disney must be cheap as fukk
that has to be the only reason THEY KEEP hiring these muhfukkas with NO GODDAMN exp to write these movie
and they wonder why its shyt
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 2 months ago '04        #5
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 NYSTATEOFMIND said
Nate Moore, Marvel Exec is against writers being Marvel fans-altho I see his point (he thinks if the writer is a fan- they will write the script line for line like the comics) I dont agree with it

Markus and Feely are they guys who wrote most of the movies the Russo Bros did- they werent comic fans but the Russos are. I think if the writer is not a fan- the director HAS TO BE

Coogler is also a comic book fan-so I think there is something there
Or at least have the writers of the story line on hand as consultants
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 2 months ago '15        #6
Preacher Mane  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Swear it seems like they’re having the damnest time getting sh*t together with this movie.
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 2 months ago '20        #7
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 2 months ago '04        #8
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 Preacher Mane said
Swear it seems like they’re having the damnest time getting sh*t together with this movie.
Yea I'm starting to lose a little faith in based god fiege
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 2 months ago '15        #9
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
Yea I'm starting to lose a little faith in based god fiege
Started losing me in phase 4 to be honest

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 2 months ago '18        #10
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 NYSTATEOFMIND said
Nate Moore, Marvel Exec is against writers being Marvel fans-altho I see his point (he thinks if the writer is a fan- they will write the script line for line like the comics) I dont agree with it

Markus and Feely are they guys who wrote most of the movies the Russo Bros did- they werent comic fans but the Russos are. I think if the writer is not a fan- the director HAS TO BE

Coogler is also a comic book fan-so I think there is something there
I made the thread with the quote like 4 months ago. I think you misunderstood his quote.

He didn't say he didn't want Marvel fans. He said he didn't want a writer who loves it so much that they can't be "hard" or critical of the source material.

So, a Marvel fan can definitely be a writer, but they have to come with criticism. He presented the duo as ideal because of them not growing up as Marvel readers, but he made sure to be clear and mention that someone who knows the source material can recognize that one to one translation is not the best version of a film on the Belloni Podcast.

It can go either way.

 2 months ago '18        #11
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
I don't care is he a comic book fan? Does he love and respect the lore? I'm tired of these directors putting their own spin on established canon
This is why I mentioned the VICE Icon Unearthed sh*t. They go through what i've been saying for years and a bit of what I didn't know.

The 1st Phase of the MCU was a collaborative effort.

- They would bring in TV writers
- Have a film writer add elements
- A comic writer would sprinkle his take on some treatments or even be the basis of the story

It was a whole process that they were given time to do. What I didn't know was that Straczynski's 07/09 run of Thor had elements that Stan Lee already wanted to get off.

He is the one that came up with the idea to have Thor down of Earth of course to humanize him. Didn't know Stan been wanted to execute that.
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 2 months ago '20        #12
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 NYSTATEOFMIND said
also

Disney must be cheap as fukk
that has to be the only reason THEY KEEP hiring these muhfukkas with NO GODDAMN exp to write these movie
and they wonder why its shyt
Their stories been sh*t lately so now Iger comes in and slows down the machine and getting things rewritten from where they were but that’s not a good thing?

Avatar 2 being a blockbuster about family makes sense for Fantastic Four


 2 months ago '16        #13
Cedwards198451 
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Lets be honest, MCU is trash now
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 2 months ago '22        #14
Jeffrey in 813 
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
I don't care is he a comic book fan? Does he love and respect the lore? I'm tired of these directors putting their own spin on established canon
This.

Guys like Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick are the EXACT types that you want for adapting comic book stories to the big screen. Period.

You should've read the script for Deadpool, man. There was so much brilliant stuff that got cut. When the script leaked online I had read literally just about every single Deadpool comic book appearance there was up to that point and I kept saying to myself how there were so many gems in the script that only a seriously talented comic book writer could come up with or someone who truly, really, really, REALLY loves and respects the character.

Nowadays I kinda only really get that vibe from the gawds, top Dons, Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni when it comes to Star Wars.
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 2 months ago '22        #15
CosmicVonDoom 
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 Pastor Ra said
I made the thread with the quote like 4 months ago. I think you misunderstood his quote.

He didn't say he didn't want Marvel fans. He said he didn't want a writer who loves it so much that they can't be "hard" or critical of the source material.

So, a Marvel fan can definitely be a writer, but they have to come with criticism. He presented the duo as ideal because of them not growing up as Marvel readers, but he made sure to be clear and mention that someone who knows the source material can recognize that one to one translation is not the best version of a film on the Belloni Podcast.

It can go either way.
You have no idea what your talking about. Quoting a fool just because u think he sounds intelligent doesn't mean you made a point

Not being a fan of the comics is why most of the directors and producers don't even care about the story and make up some outlandish shyt that's bizarre even for kids humor. They want the fans to know that they don't respect them and think that their too old to care about these characters. It's been proven by how the shows are written.

Again your quote is d*ck riding a phukbwoi cause u think he sounded intelligent. What's wild is he immediately hired women and men who don't know shyt about the characters and to meet their dumb af POC quota.

Use a quote with context.


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 2 months ago '22        #16
CosmicVonDoom 
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Thor was never written in any comic how he was in the movies. Go down the list, and every movie was a sprinkled in ingredients of random recipes that don't go together at all

Most of the decisions were made from people who didn't have a clue to the scope of what Marvel is as a universe. Every single Phase 1 movie was independent of the other.
Making them more entertaining movies. Nut with no continuity

And now the room is full of idiots who didn't take the time to read comics. Piggy backed off other people who read the stories. Felt a sort of way about that like bi*chmade people.

Now that comics hit an all time high with popularity, you would think half these slimey shyt people should buy more comics to understand the damn stories, but instead they decided to troll social media and lurk debates about how a character is being portrayed horribly

They can't even tell a story about humans evolving gaining powers like the Xmen. Sony milking Spiderman with the dumbest shyt but it's entertaining enough for casuals.


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 2 months ago '04        #17
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 Pastor Ra said
This is why I mentioned the VICE Icon Unearthed sh*t. They go through what i've been saying for years and a bit of what I didn't know.

The 1st Phase of the MCU was a collaborative effort.

- They would bring in TV writers
- Have a film writer add elements
- A comic writer would sprinkle his take on some treatments or even be the basis of the story

It was a whole process that they were given time to do. What I didn't know was that Straczynski's 07/09 run of Thor had elements that Stan Lee already wanted to get off.

He is the one that came up with the idea to have Thor down of Earth of course to humanize him. Didn't know Stan been wanted to execute that.
Jms run with copiel art was a run that I loved also, second to Simonson.....
Thor lore is so epic when done right.

 2 months ago '22        #18
CosmicVonDoom 
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 RTJ said
Their stories been sh*t lately so now Iger comes in and slows down the machine and getting things rewritten from where they were but that’s not a good thing?

Avatar 2 being a blockbuster about family makes sense for Fantastic Four

Iger was the Miestro of the shyt show that was Disney's Marvel universe u slow duck.

Slowing down the machine because their plans to gip and lie to the audience wasn't working.

(This is where u type that dumb shyt : "Disney is winning and your a hater")

Movies that were slated to be released were pushed back with finished scripts. Actors were signing on for checks, knowing the stories would be targeted to race/s*xual-indentity instead of a collection of stories that either intertwined or didn't. Not that damn hard to process at all

In some articles the actors admit to not knowing what parts of the script will make the final cut.

MSheU Phases 3 and 4 have been hit the hardest. Every movie had resorts that cost them at least 100 Million every clip.

Again this is the part where the chicken heads keep typing that Disney is winning. There's no receipts, actors quiting and turning down multiple requests. Competitive app services making bank on Disney head top.

But here we are and fools still lying about nothing. Smfh
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 2 months ago '04        #19
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 Pastor Ra said
This is why I mentioned the VICE Icon Unearthed sh*t. They go through what i've been saying for years and a bit of what I didn't know.

The 1st Phase of the MCU was a collaborative effort.

- They would bring in TV writers
- Have a film writer add elements
- A comic writer would sprinkle his take on some treatments or even be the basis of the story

It was a whole process that they were given time to do. What I didn't know was that Straczynski's 07/09 run of Thor had elements that Stan Lee already wanted to get off.

He is the one that came up with the idea to have Thor down of Earth of course to humanize him. Didn't know Stan been wanted to execute that.
This?



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 2 months ago '18        #20
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
This?



That is part 1, yes. It's 4 or 5 episodes in so far. Next week, they go over Cap 1: 1st Avenger.
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 2 months ago '18        #21
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 CosmicVonDoom said
You have no idea what your talking about. Quoting a fool just because u think he sounds intelligent doesn't mean you made a point

Not being a fan of the comics is why most of the directors and producers don't even care about the story and make up some outlandish shyt that's bizarre even for kids humor. They want the fans to know that they don't respect them and think that their too old to care about these characters. It's been proven by how the shows are written.

Again your quote is d*ck riding a phukbwoi cause u think he sounded intelligent. What's wild is he immediately hired women and men who don't know shyt about the characters and to meet their dumb af POC quota.

Use a quote with context.
Man you sound confused.

You're saying - there are no comic fans making the films
I'm saying - there are tons of comic writers working on it since Iron Man in 08

1 - You're equating my correction to being in agreement when I never had a stance.
2 - 90% of the MCU films are a mix of TV writing, comic writing, and film treatment.

Perfect example
- The idea of Thor being among humans in the 1st film was Straczynski's idea. He's been writing for DC since the 80s and for Marvel through the 00s.

He wrote for Thor vol 3 and that is why he was brought in to rewrite elements. His idea was to place Thor in Oklahoma in his comic run and he worked over Miller and Stentz (TV writing duo) draft.


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 2 months ago '04        #22
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 Pastor Ra said
That is part 1, yes. It's 4 or 5 episodes in so far. Next week, they go over Cap 1: 1st Avenger.
I just grabbed the other three off the high seas.
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 2 months ago '19        #23
BaliBoy 
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Avatar 2 story was trash tho

Why they keep tryna reboot this sh*t?

That Josh Trank disaster wasn't enough for them?
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 2 months ago '04        #24
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 Pastor Ra said
That is part 1, yes. It's 4 or 5 episodes in so far. Next week, they go over Cap 1: 1st Avenger.
Thx for recommending that icon show, as a comic fan I knew a lot of the marvel story but this shed some light on a lot of stuff I didn't know.
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 2 months ago '20        #25
RTJ  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 CosmicVonDoom said
Iger was the Miestro of the shyt show that was Disney's Marvel universe u slow duck.

Slowing down the machine because their plans to gip and lie to the audience wasn't working.

(This is where u type that dumb shyt : "Disney is winning and your a hater")

Movies that were slated to be released were pushed back with finished scripts. Actors were signing on for checks, knowing the stories would be targeted to race/s*xual-indentity instead of a collection of stories that either intertwined or didn't. Not that damn hard to process at all

In some articles the actors admit to not knowing what parts of the script will make the final cut.

MSheU Phases 3 and 4 have been hit the hardest. Every movie had resorts that cost them at least 100 Million every clip.

Again this is the part where the chicken heads keep typing that Disney is winning. There's no receipts, actors quiting and turning down multiple requests. Competitive app services making bank on Disney head top.

But here we are and fools still lying about nothing. Smfh
I literally said their stories been sh*t and you still think I’m going to say they’re winning?

You gotta stop doing acid and then logging on rambling incoherently



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