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Mar 29 - Milley: Fightin Both China & Russia Together Would Be Very, Very Difficult Thing



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Mar 29 - Milley: f*ghtin Both China & Russia Together Would Be Very, Very Difficult Thing
 

 
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, asked Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley on Wednesday if the United States of America is "adequately resourced and prepared" to deter and defeat a China-Russia alliance.

Milley responded that the National Defense Strategy currently is structured to deal with a "pacing threat from China and an acute threat from Russia."


"What that really means, and this changed under the former SecDef Mattis, we changed essentially from a two-war strategy to a regional contingency strategy, which (was) in existence from, I guess, the end of World War II all the way up through a few years ago."


But then, Milley said, "We switched to a one-war strategy. So we planned it to resource, train, man, equip and force-structure our force to be able to f*ght one major contingency against one power and to hold in the other theaters."

Milley said the shift to the one-war strategy took place in the 2017 NDS. "And I was chief of staff of the Army, we all participated in it," he said.


Now, we can surge," Milley continued. "We would have to do that. But that's the reality.

"Our military, capability-wise, can f*ght in a lot of places with different types of contingencies, but if you're talking about a serious conflict, with a major great power war, realistically, putting both China and Russia together is a very, very difficult thing."


Milley later noted that Russia and China are getting "closer together."

"I wouldn't call it a true, full alliance, in the meaning of that word," he said.

"But we are seeing them moving closer together, and that's troublesome. And then if you add in -- Iran's the third. So those three countries together are going to be problematic for many years to come, I think, especially Russia and China because of their capabilities."

Milley said China has a "significant nuclear capability today," and they also have ICBMs that can reach the United States.

"We are facing two, nuclear-armed great powers," he said, and while the principles of Cold War deterrence still apply, now it's "more complicated" because it's "two versus one."

Milley said it's essential to maintain strategic stability, "and we do that with China with an a*sured second strike. That's the best way that exists today, with the technologies that exist,” he said:

"We are probably not going to be able to do anything to stop, slow down, disrupt, interdict or destroy the Chinese nuclear development program that they have projected out over the next ten to twenty years. But they're going to do that, in accordance with their own plan, and there's very little leverage, I think, that we can do externally to prevent that from happening.

"There might be some economic levels of power, there might be other things in the intelligence world, but for the most part, they're probably going to step out. They have a national goal...to be the global coequal with the United States and superior militarily by mid-century.

“They're on that path to do that. And that's really disturbing, that's really bothersome, and we're going to have to not only keep pace, but we have to outpace that, and that'll a*sure the peace."
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 2 months ago '16        #2
Ghostface Killa  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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This is the reality

The world has been relying on us to f*ght their battles and be called the bully... and the Warhawks got what they thought they wanted.

The reality is our allies are weak asl and can't get much done in war.

And Israel isn't loyal so I don't expect much from them.
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 2 months ago '20        #3
Contributor13  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x16 OP
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 Ghostface k*lla said

And Israel isn't loyal so I don't expect much from them.
Israel aint bout sh*t fams
They got their own issues.
They know when the RIGHT time comes, they are going to be taken out by Iran and them.

Israel is a project fams. Not even real country.
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 2 months ago '18        #4
DUCEDUCE  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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So China is going to go to war with its biggest customer on the behest of Russia...
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 2 months ago '04        #5
young_fletch  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 DUCEDUCE said
So China is going to go to war with its biggest customer on the behest of Russia...
China wants to be Top Boy. They have a declining population. So they need to move within the next 10 years if not 5. Otherwise, they will lose control of their own future. Splitting American power is their best chance.
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 2 months ago '18        #6
ChrisPartlowFro 
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Luckily we’re literally not f*ghting Russia alone we’re not even f*ghting them, just helping provide some liquidity. We’d beat Russia’s fu*king a*s. China’s too.
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 2 months ago '15        #7
Lord Funkington 
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 ChrisPartlowFro said
Luckily we’re literally not f*ghting Russia alone we’re not even f*ghting them, just helping provide some liquidity. We’d beat Russia’s fu*king a*s. China’s too.
People also forget if this f*ght were to happen, it sure as hell wouldn't happen on US soil. Sad Vlad and Xi would be watching their infrastructure get torn apart and their civilians dying. Not that they care about that last part.
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 2 months ago '05        #8
pippen33 
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 young_fletch said
China wants to be Top Boy. They have a declining population. So they need to move within the next 10 years if not 5. Otherwise, they will lose control of their own future. Splitting American power is their best chance.
Except that China needs America to be the top dog. Who else is China gonna sell sh*t to? We are their biggest trading partner. Stop falling for the bullsh*t.
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 2 months ago '20        #9
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 DUCEDUCE said
So China is going to go to war with its biggest customer on the behest of Russia...
Let's get it straight here sir , the Chinese are not the aggressor here the man is
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 2 months ago '18        #10
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 young_fletch said
China wants to be Top Boy. They have a declining population. So they need to move within the next 10 years if not 5. Otherwise, they will lose control of their own future. Splitting American power is their best chance.
No its influence what they want but going all against America is a lose lose. You really think China can go up against the US? Without us there manufacturing is Kaput. This is just politics as usual people saying the collapse of the dollar is imminent
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 2 months ago '04        #11
young_fletch  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 pippen33 said
Except that China needs America to be the top dog. Who else is China gonna sell sh*t to? We are their biggest trading partner. Stop falling for the bullsh*t.
Never said it was a smart move for China. But China is trying to diversify with its focus on Africa and the middle east. Doubt it's going to be enough but power is a dangerous thing.

 2 months ago '16        #12
BitterDiesel 
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 DUCEDUCE said
So China is going to go to war with its biggest customer on the behest of Russia...
Global Trilateralism... read

Zbigniew Brzezinski Geostratigic Triad & out of time


Last edited by BitterDiesel; 03-29-2023 at 01:12 PM..
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 2 months ago '20        #13
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Lord Funkington said
People also forget if this f*ght were to happen, it sure as hell wouldn't happen on US soil. Sad Vlad and Xi would be watching their infrastructure get torn apart and their civilians dying. Not that they care about that last part.
It will start in the China sea but we will get rock in North America


Last edited by Xiox; 03-29-2023 at 01:59 PM..
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 2 months ago '04        #14
skillz410 
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Duh n*gga
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 2 months ago '18        #15
VIMAN 
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 Ghostface k*lla said
This is the reality

The world has been relying on us to f*ght their battles and be called the bully... and the Warhawks got what they thought they wanted.

The reality is our allies are weak asl and can't get much done in war.

And Israel isn't loyal so I don't expect much from them.
US wasted 1 trillion in the middle east in the last 25yrs

China invested 1 trillion into its country/economy in the last 25yrs.

go figure
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 2 months ago '17        #16
Iduzdis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Bye bye US. If that’s the goal

Either way, U.S is done fo. Only so long the world was gonna let U.S play king of the world based on the dollar.
We could’ve strengthened and tighten up, but the elite group is so power corrupted they been focused & using that power to demonize the world into a new age of defective s*xuality.
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 2 months ago '17        #17
Class of 2017 
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BX fell off so hard, its nothing but propaganda peddling and jobless bucktooth alt right sh*tlords on here now

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 2 months ago '20        #18
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 VIMAN said
US wasted 1 trillion in the middle east in the last 25yrs

China invested 1 trillion into its country/economy in the last 25yrs.

go figure
We didn't lose a dime , we got free oil for 20 years & still getting oil from Syria & the troops stayed battle ready
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 2 months ago '09        #19
Flyboy88 
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That's why US have defence pacts with Australia, UK and Japan
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 2 months ago '18        #20
BlackBanga 
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The US gotta beg mfs with hat in hand to join armed services but the US is supposed to start a war with China and Russia. Russia has 300k troops on reserve. Can we say the same? How many are in Europe right now? This country already has a bad record with away games against lesser powers based on expectations. They need a new strategy because the world is a lot different now and into the future.
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 2 months ago '16        #21
deezydee2323 
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Bro do we even have enough troops ! They have so many ppl to f*ght for their country while we over here at an all time low for personal (maybe im not 100%sure )
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 2 months ago '20        #22
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 Class of 2017 said
BX fell off so hard, its nothing but propaganda peddling and jobless bucktooth alt right sh*tlords on here now

elaborate

Man saying the truth
It hurt dont it?
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 2 months ago '15        #23
Lord Funkington 
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 BlackBanga said
The US gotta beg mfs with hat in hand to join armed services but the US is supposed to start a war with China and Russia. Russia has 300k troops on reserve. Can we say the same? How many are in Europe right now? This country already has a bad record with away games against lesser powers based on expectations. They need a new strategy because the world is a lot different now and into the future.
US reserves are around 800,000. Active duty is around 1.3 million.
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 2 months ago '15        #24
Lord Funkington 
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 Xiox said
It will start in the China sea but we will get rock in North America
Doubtful.
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 2 months ago '16        #25
fam  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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bout time

fu*k america and anyone who loves it
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