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Patriotism, religious faith, having children and other priorities that helped define the national character for generations are receding in importance to Americans, a new Wall Street Journal-NORC poll finds.

The survey, conducted with NORC at the University of Chicago, a nonpartisan research organization, also finds the country sharply divided by political party over social trends such as the push for racial diversity in businesses and the use of gender-neutral pronouns.

Some 38% of respondents said patriotism was very important to them, and 39% said religion was very important. That was down sharply from when the Journal first asked the question in 1998, when 70% deemed patriotism to be very important, and 62% said so of religion.

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The share of Americans who say that having children, involvement in their community and hard work are very important values has also fallen. Tolerance for others, deemed very important by 80% of Americans as recently as four years ago, has fallen to 58% since then.

Bill McInturff, a pollster who worked on a previous Journal survey that measured these attitudes along with NBC News, said that “these differences are so dramatic, it paints a new and surprising portrait of a changing America.’’ He surmised that “perhaps the toll of our political division, Covid and the lowest economic confidence in decades is having a startling effect on our core values.’’

A number of events have shaken and in some ways fractured the nation since the Journal first asked about unifying values, among them the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the financial crisis of 2008 and subsequent economic downturn and the rise of former President Donald Trump.

The only priority the Journal tested that has grown in importance in the past quarter-century is money, which was cited as very important by 43% in the new survey, up from 31% in 1998.

Aside from money, all age groups, including seniors, attached far less importance to these priorities and values than when pollsters asked about them in 1998 and 2019. But younger Americans in particular place low importance on these values, many of which were central to the lives of their parents.

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Some 23% of adults under age 30 said in the new survey that patriotism was very important to them personally, compared with 59% of seniors ages 65 or older. Some 31% of younger respondents said that religion was very important to them, compared with 55% among seniors.

Only 23% of adults under age 30 said that having children was very important.

To Kevin Williams, a commercial and residential painter in Bend, Ore., many of these values are linked. Mr. Williams, 33 years old, said he thought that patriotism is declining as a civic value in tandem with rising individualism, a sense of entitlement among many people and a decline in community involvement, possibly because of people focusing on their own racial or cultural backgrounds rather than what Americans have in common.

“I think patriotism encompasses being part of your community and helping other Americans,’’ said Mr. Williams, who said he coaches youth sports and volunteers with a group that provides security at protests and rallies.

Mr. Williams said that, as a middle-school student at the time of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he knew then that he would join the military. “I just felt that I wanted to do my part to protect my country,’’ said Mr. Williams, who supported former President Donald Trump’s two White House campaigns. He eventually served four years in the Marines.

To Janet Boyer, a former Pentecostal minister who lives in Cumberland Township in Southwestern Pennsylvania’s coal country, patriotism has taken on a political sheen and is no longer important to her. “For me, patriotism has turned into right-wing nationalism,’’ said Ms. Boyer, who backed President Biden in 2020.

Political divisiveness also weighs on her. “Back in the day, Republicans and Democrats had a sense of deference to one another,’’ said Ms. Boyer, 52, a self-help author and jewelry designer. “They didn’t act like they were in a schoolyard trying to be vengeful and reactive.”

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Asked what values unite the nation, Elana Reiser, 43, of Brookhaven, N.Y., pointed to economic opportunity. “No matter your starting point, you can always become successful,’’ she said.

Some 21% in the survey said that America stands above all other countries in the world, a view that some call American exceptionalism. Half said that America is one of the greatest countries, along with some others. The share who said other countries are better than the U.S. rose to 27%, up from 19% when the same question was asked in 2016.

Ms. Reiser said that, as a university math teacher, she knows that other countries rank higher on tests of math performance. She said longer vacations and maternal leaves in some European countries mean they have a better quality of life. “In America, you basically have to work your whole life, and you don’t get breaks,’’ she said.

Jennifer Benz, vice president of public affairs and media research at NORC, said that views in the survey might have been colored by the downbeat economic outlook that the poll also found. “People are just sort of down on everything about the country,” she said.

The survey found sharp differences by political party on social issues that have gained prominence.

It asked whether society had gone far enough—or had gone too far—when it comes to businesses taking steps to promote racial and ethnic diversity. Just over half of Republicans said society had gone too far, compared with 7% of Democrats. Some 61% of Democrats said diversity efforts hadn’t gone far enough, compared with 14% of Republicans.

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Three quarters of Republicans said society had gone too far in accepting people who are transgender, while 56% of Democrats said society hadn’t gone far enough.

Overall, 63% of people in the survey said that companies shouldn’t take public stands on social and political issues, while 36% of people said companies should take such stands. Among Republicans, 80% opposed companies doing so, while 56% of Democrats favored the idea.

Half of people in the survey said they didn’t like the practice of being asked to use gender-neutral pronouns, such as “they’’ or “them,’’ when addressing another person, compared with 18% who viewed it favorably. Some 30% of respondents under age 35 viewed the practice favorably, compared with 9% of seniors.

The Journal-NORC survey polled 1,019 people from March 1-13, mostly online. The margin of error was plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

Differences in how the new poll and prior surveys were conducted might account for a small portion of the reported decline in importance of the American values tested. Prior surveys, conducted for the Journal and NBC News, used live interviewers to reach people by phone.

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 1 year ago '22        #2
Booda Sack  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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A society with no unifying culture, beliefs, or traditions is destined to fail. However this is what the people wanted they believe their way is the way despite all evidence shows their way is failing.

suicides up
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But according to BX to having faith in anything makes you a clown
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 1 year ago '20        #3
Lebrown james 
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Republicans loves Jesus and country and hates diversity... Seems on brand lol
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Top 10 most propped recently  1 year ago '11        #4
Sin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x71 OP
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 Booda Sack said 🔗
A society with no unifying culture, beliefs, or traditions is destined to fail. However this is what the people wanted they believe their way is the way despite all evidence shows their way is failing.

suicides up
Drug use up
Anti depressants up
Mental illness up

But according to BX to having faith in anything makes you a clown
the problem is faith in what?

according to the poll the thing we all have the most faith in is money




I think we've lost faith in religion and politicians because their hypocrites
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 1 year ago '16        #5
Stables08 
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These are all white people issues color folks doing they own thing as the non colored are being phased out.
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 1 year ago '22        #6
Booda Sack  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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 Sin said 🔗
the problem is faith in what?

according to the poll the thing we all have the most faith in is money




I think we've lost faith in religion and politicians because their hypocrites
A man will corrupt anything. It’s not the religion or institutions it’s the people.
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 1 year ago '19        #7
aaf192020  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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I blame the pandemic. People realized the importance of working for self, family, CEOs and Politicians are worthless, and God was nowhere to save anybody.

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Couple that with decades of failing education and you've got what you got.

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 1 year ago '06        #8
TreZ 
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Religion is a joke and more people are starting to realize it
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 1 year ago '17        #9
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x27
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You mean these American values?




The so called "American Values" we never meant for the benefit of me and my people.

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 1 year ago '15        #10
Jad95  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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This country is falling apart because the hypocrisy it was built on is too unstable. Nothing they claimed to stand for was legit. Some knew it and were just proud liars and gaslighters and the other half was delusional. That was always a recipe for disaster, and now the country is at this weird crossroad where the delusional half is slowly waking up (liberals) and the other half who knew what they were doing all along is mad at them for exposing what’s been in the shadows all along.

Fundamentally building a country on equality/inclusion and religion was never going to work because Christianity itself is not inclusive or about equality. This clash was inevitable. So will inclusion/equality win or will religion? Either way this country will never be the same now the elephant in the room has finally been addressed.
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 1 year ago '20        #11
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Racism & nationalism has to die
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 1 year ago '19        #12
aaf192020  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Jad95 said 🔗
This country is falling apart because the hypocrisy it was built on is too unstable. Nothing they claimed to stand for was legit. Some knew it and were just proud liars and gaslighters and the other half was delusional. That was always a recipe for disaster, and now the country is at this weird crossroad where the delusional half is slowly waking up (liberals) and the other half who knew what they were doing all along is mad at them for exposing what’s been in the shadows all along.

Fundamentally building a country on equality/inclusion and religion was never going to work because Christianity itself is not inclusive or about equality. This clash was inevitable. So will inclusion/equality win or will religion? Either way this country will never be the same now the elephant in the room has finally been addressed.
You mean to tell me America was never great so there's no maga'cal way to make it something it never was?




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 1 year ago '04        #13
erickonasis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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 Booda Sack said 🔗
A society with no unifying culture, beliefs, or traditions is destined to fail. However this is what the people wanted they believe their way is the way despite all evidence shows their way is failing.

suicides up
Drug use up
Anti depressants up
Mental illness up

But according to BX to having faith in anything makes you a clown
unifying culture?

u mean ignorant people and people unaware to whats really going on ?
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 1 year ago '16        #14
Boogie1790  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Stables08 said 🔗
These are all white people issues color folks doing they own thing as the non colored are being phased out.
white people not going anywhere

LMAO
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 1 year ago '16        #15
Boogie1790  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Xiox said 🔗
Racism & nationalism has to die
never will
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 1 year ago '04        #16
ItAlY2BkLyN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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And this is the root cause of the gun violence in this country.

Money Over Everything - self serving, materialistic, shallow

They took the bible out of schools, but give it to convicts in the penitentiary.
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 1 year ago '18        #17
DUCEDUCE  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 Booda Sack said 🔗
A society with no unifying culture, beliefs, or traditions is destined to fail. However this is what the people wanted they believe their way is the way despite all evidence shows their way is failing.

suicides up
Drug use up
Anti depressants up
Mental illness up

But according to BX to having faith in anything makes you a clown
And you think that is because people are not patriotic or because they believe in religious less, or is because corporations have ransacked the middle class and there is no end in sight work all your life and die, and if you get sick along the way good luck cause you will go broke trying to get better. Naw its because of culture, beliefs and traditions, thats whats broken.
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 1 year ago '15        #18
Lord Funkington 
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This has some pretty loose definitions of these values. What do you consider to be patriotic? Do I have to wear red, white, and blue everywhere, or can I just be happy I live here compared to some other countries out there? Pride in your country is an odd thing because I didn't really do anything to be an American. I was just born here.

Drop in wanting to have children and being more concerned about money are probably linked.

A drop in religion is the natural progression of a society as we learn more about our world. A drop in religion isn't the end of mortality.
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 1 year ago '16        #19
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 Booda Sack said 🔗
A society with no unifying culture, beliefs, or traditions is destined to fail. However this is what the people wanted they believe their way is the way despite all evidence shows their way is failing.

suicides up
Drug use up
Anti depressants up
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But according to BX to having faith in anything makes you a clown
you are the poster child for what’s wrong with society……
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 1 year ago '22        #20
Booda Sack  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
you are the poster child for what’s wrong with society……
And you’re a ***
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 1 year ago '12        #21
Gramz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x64
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How about we focus on how big pharma, corporations, and the military industrial complex are robbing us blind instead of focusing on manufactured culture wars that really have no bearing on the majority of our lives.
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 1 year ago '16        #22
seatownslayer  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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people divided is easier to control...

this isnt a coincidence that after burnie started the 99% rally and peope were catching on thats they started more race wars in the media and people started to hate each other more then ever. Ever since thay day all I've seen is rave baiting left and right and peope getting mad for their side and creating a divide of tje common man...

When you hate your neighbor your forget to hate your slave Master... they are the ones who show you want they want on the media every night and shape your way of thinking... you totally forgot about the 99% rally and now hate everyone who isn't you...

You fell hook line and sinker for their plan


You can see after 2011 incidents more then doubled in the news and in this country










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 1 year ago '16        #23
Stables08 
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 Boogie1790 said 🔗
white people not going anywhere

LMAO
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Facts is facts, check the data
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 1 year ago '16        #24
seatownslayer  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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 Gramz said 🔗
How about we focus on how big pharma, corporations, and the military industrial complex are robbing us blind instead of focusing on manufactured culture wars that really have no bearing on the majority of our lives.
You really don't understand the power of hate... we were more united then ever before this all started... and the people in power seen it and didn't like it knowing we had the numbers...


It was Americans verse the rich
. Untilit wasn't and they turned it into police and race wars and everyone quickly for got the 99% rally..m and it never came back up now did it?

Who owns the media companies? The 1% the people who didn't want us united to stop them... so they ran every racist story they could and haven't stopped.. they took away family values and left you with every one for them selves... by for causing on the ¹% you focus on everything you named and more... all the stuff holding down the common man.
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 1 year ago '16        #25
Boogie1790  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Stables08 said 🔗
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Facts is facts, check the data
Lol ok

I guess you dont how they re-categorize white every couple of generations, Italians use to be people of color too

All they gonna do is make all the latinos who want to be seen as white any way white

the data they show you is fuel racial animosity

Hell most of the people youre calling Latino are white people, they just happen to come from Spanish speaking countries
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