Mar 20-Iraq War Veterans, 20 Years Later: ‘I Don’t Know How to Explain the War to Myself’ |
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![]() Months after the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, I began filming the U.S. Army’s 2nd Battalion, 3rd Field Artillery Regiment (known as the Gunners) in Baghdad. The unit was housed in a bombed-out palace on the banks of the Tigris that they named Gunner Palace. Rather than just making a movie about the men, I suggested that we make a film together — an offer that the soldiers quickly embraced. They told the story of the war as only they could: They played guitar, spat out rhymes and played to the camera. But behind all their bravado and posturing, they were just kids who desperately wanted the world to understand the war through their eyes. In the last two months of 2003, the Gunners lost three men to I.E.D. attacks. They scrambled to create makeshift armor for their soft-skinned vehicles using scrap metal. When asked by a soldier about the lack of armor in 2004, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld famously said, “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.” They were the army we had. They fought an enemy they couldn’t always see in a land they didn’t understand for reasons that were never entirely clear. In the midst of the pandemic, I visited the men and spoke with them about how they make sense of their role in a war that has yet to be fully reckoned with. In "The Army We Had," the veterans grapple with a past that still reverberates powerfully through their lives. |
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SMH, you are hard pressed to find many places talking about the war. But the Iraq war is why America is so fu*ked up today.
Trillions spent, millions of lives wasted, and the continued decay of the nation. Says much about America that there isn’t proper respect given to those who served today, and those who peddled the lies that got us into it will never have their crimes accounted for. Smh |
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My ex boss claimed to have been shot in Iraq. He told us this during his introduction to the company as the new GM.
I always wanted to ask him if he thought it was worth it. He's a liar so I wouldnt be surprised if he made the whole sh*t up. Last edited by OaklandSmokin; 03-20-2023 at 10:34 PM.. |
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Like every war about money. War was about private industry, oil, drugs. America knew heroin was making a come back. Peep how percs fents opiates got popular over last 20 yrs. The real version comes from pharmacy. America being in Afghanistan made real heroin too expensive risky to access. Private contractors was stealing money from government funding to work during wartime.
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And yet they're f*ghting "for you". Most of the time when people say soldiers are f*ghting for you and your freedom, or even for the country. It's really for the benefit of the government and for people in power to make more money. An argument could be made thst this trickles down to the common person because we just took a buncha gas and resources but things don't get cheaper they actually get more expensive. The war was unnecessary as most wars are, so what are they really f*ghting for?
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![]() That would throw him off like a mufu*ka | |
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them and Nam vets have so much in common except for a lot of people initially joining the military at the start of the Iraq war genuinely thought they were doing the right where as a lot of people were forced to go to Nam knowing it was bullsh*t off jump. idk which would be worse, going in knowing sh*ts fu*ked up or going in thinking you’re doing the right thing only to find out it was bullsh*t……..
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This is a pic of a dude that was in my squad.. (no idea what ever happened to him), but that thermometer is wrapped around almost 20 degrees past 120... fu*k | |
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