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50 Cent has responded to Jim Jones’ claim that Dipset started the rap group mixtape wave rather than G-Unit.

Capo made his remarks during a lengthy discussion on the Flip Da Script podcast. He claimed that while many Hip-Hop fans believe 50 Cent’s crew kicked off the mixtape movement of the early 2000s, it’s not true.

“Let’s get this right and I’m going to keep it all the way a buck,” Jones told host QueenzFlip. “We started the mixtape movement, right? And it wasn’t a crew mixtape. We were making real albums and putting them out as mixtapes. G-Unit was doing replays of other people’s beats and making mixtapes.”

The NYC icon continued, saying, “It was a big difference. We was using our mixtapes as albums to promote our real albums, and off those mixtapes, we were taking singles that the people started loving and started putting them on our real albums.”

After sharing what he sees as the distinction between the two collectives, Jim Jones insisted Dipset went first.

“But even in that, we put the Dipset mixtape out first before G-Unit put their mixtape out. Now go Google it.”

Meanwhile, 50 Cent joined the debate after a clip of the discussion circulated online, responding in the comments section of blog page The Hip-Hop Wolf. “👏👏👏😆he lying LOL,” Fiddy penned on Wednesday.

While the debate continued in the comments section, both crews dropped their first mixtapes in 2002. Diplomats Volume 1 came out shortly before G-Unit’s 50 Cent is the Future was released in the summer. Both tapes sparked the careers of future rap legends, propelling Cam’ron and 50 Cent into the mainstream.

While Dispet may have released first, G-Unit has dropped significantly more mixtapes. The Diplomats dropped eight mixtapes, while G-Unit released a total of 33 mixtapes.

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I'll say this

Diplomats volume 1 and even Come home with me (which has tracks originally from Diplomats volume 1) both came before 50 Cent is the future.

If Dipset came before it means he right

DJ Clue

He’s right. But Cam already had a major deal and major albums, he utilized the mixtapes as a way to get his crew attention and it paved the way for the KOCH deal. I don’t think that had ever been done before. I have my theory why they never as a label were under Roc like State Property was, but it worked for all parties.

50 prolly sees it as a lie because he didn’t have the deal at the time, him & Sha cooked those tapes up with their own money to get that deal and that’s the strategy most new artists followed to break into the industry by getting hot on their own and turning it into a major label “partnership”. And obviously 50’s ascension in the game went way further than Dipset mixtapes full of throwaways before the KOCH deal.

they obviously used mixtapes in different ways, diplomats volume 1 had mostly throwaways and album cuts and 50 cent is the future had peoples songs completely remixed in a song format with hooks, bridges and 3 verses, not just a straight freestyle

the latter is what would become the standard mixtape format for artists for a good amount of time

scarlaf0n said DJ Clue

That’s technically different from what they speaking on.

Clue was a DJ. His sh*t was a glorified, Star studded playlist where he could slip Fab on a song or 2 as opposed to an unofficial “album” for an artist/artists.

greyhova said they obviously used mixtapes in different ways, diplomats volume 1 had mostly throwaways and album cuts and 50 cent is the future had peoples songs completely remixed in a song format with hooks, bridges and 3 verses, not just a straight freestyle the latter is what would become the standard mixtape format for artists for a good amount of time

Exactly.

It’s a good discussion. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into a n*gga argument. With the word d*ck and Stan thrown around. Ppl need to respect each others opinions.

I remember having the Kay Slay/Dipset "Diplomats" joint first before the 50 takeover what a time tho

Lol yall do know Guess Who's Back is 50's first mixtape right? Not 50 Cent is the future. He recorded all that sh*t in 01 although Guess Who's Back had POD cuts on it

Capo wants his flowers but they won't pay the bills

The corrector said I'll say this Diplomats volume 1 and even Come home with me (which has tracks originally from Diplomats volume 1) both came before 50 Cent is the future.

facts 50 delusional lmao

MHP Trotty said He’s right. But Cam already had a major deal and major albums, he utilized the mixtapes as a way to get his crew attention and it paved the way for the KOCH deal. I don’t think that had ever been done before. I have my theory why they never as a label were under Roc like State Property was, but it worked for all parties. 50 prolly sees it as a lie because he didn’t have the deal at the time, him & Sha cooked those tapes up with their own money to get that deal and that’s the strategy most new artists followed to break into the industry by getting hot on their own and turning it into a major label “partnership”. And obviously 50’s ascension in the game went way further than Dipset mixtapes full of throwaways before the KOCH deal.

Dipset didn't sign to shady before 50 cent is the future?

Soo Special OG said Lol yall do know Guess Who's Back is 50's first mixtape right? Not 50 Cent is the future. He recorded all that sh*t in 01 although Guess Who's Back had POD cuts on it

50 cent is the future was more of an album he did with trackmasters

DJ Kay Slay & Dipset >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I thinks DJ kayslays death was too quiet

CamburyBXGreat said 50 cent is the future was more of an album he did with trackmasters

you mean guess who's back? thats 50 first mixtape thats where everything started. the sh*t had freestyles on it/ so jim jones wrong about about fif not having original music

Soo Special OG said Lol yall do know Guess Who's Back is 50's first mixtape right? Not 50 Cent is the future. He recorded all that sh*t in 01 although Guess Who's Back had POD cuts on it

Yes + it had original music like the intro(🔥) and the joints with Nas.

I don't know why people are bringing up 50 Cent Is The Future

Holyfathersteve and his 3 alias about to come in do the usual daily 50 cent thread suck off


But Gym Jones is not lying but technically the The Lox was the first in 96 I believe
Before 50 and dipset

DJs started this, rapper took their sh*t.

Soo Special OG said you mean guess who's back? thats 50 first mixtape thats where everything started. the sh*t had freestyles on it/ so jim jones wrong about about fif not having original music

Oh I read that wrong.



But yea dipset volume 1 with the furs def came out before.

I remember guess who’s back came out in early 02 and Diplomat volume 1 came out around the same time.

This doesn’t have to be a beef with name calling but I’m pretty sure they both came out almost at the same time. Which could mean that great minds think alike.

When 50 or anyone connected to that movement speak on "first", they are referring to doing the tape without an established/proven DJ.

They use examples on how they were blackballed and every tape was by a DJ or a collaboration with a DJ who had a brand that people already fu*ked with mainstream.

G-Unit's tapes were hosted by G-Unit. Dipset tape was with Kay Slay. Lox and Dipset been contesting those crediting G-Unit throughout some interviews and they never understood what they were really challenging exactly, so I get the misunderstanding.

I seen Styles say it in multiple interviews throughout the last 6 years and Sheek recently. Jim has said this throughout the years too.

There is no big name DJ hosting the early G-Unit tapes.

Maybe for N.Y.

Screwed Up Click was on that before either group existed