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Jan 23 - DeSantis Responds To Backlash From Banning AP AA Studies Course
 

 
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 1 week ago '17        #2
THExTAKEOVER 
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So he's saying AP black history is filled with lies, propaganda and ideologies???

I'm trying to understand it, because this is so disingenuous that it's almost like he's telling the truth to people.

And they're accepting it.
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 1 week ago '04        #3
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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what was actually in the curriculum that he considers ideology or political agendas? Should be pretty cut and dry when you look at the curriculum no? Has that even been shared? Or it's just his word for it?
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 1 week ago '19        #4
Immersion Vox 
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The state excels at higher education but clearly sucks when it comes to teaching the kids
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 1 week ago '23        #5
JetLifeSwag  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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exactly what i said in the other thread

we shouldn't be pushing political ideologies from radicalists on our children

when they introduce an AA course, it should be rooted in historical fact
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 1 week ago '23        #6
JetLifeSwag  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
what was actually in the curriculum that he considers ideology or political agendas? Should be pretty cut and dry when you look at the curriculum no? Has that even been shared? Or it's just his word for it?


What I posted previously:

There have also already been reviewes carried out in public on the curriculum for this course.

If leans heavily on marxist ideology and pushes a socialist agenda.

The scholars they planned to study were neo-marxists and ultra radicalists such as Robin D. G. Kelley who was literally a communist. He was a member of the Communist Workers Party.

Perhaps if they revamp what will actually be taught in this course then it could stand a chance. But as it stands, it is currently based around a framework that can heavily radicalize young people.

The education system should not be used for pushing political agendas on students
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 1 week ago '23        #7
JetLifeSwag  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 THExTAKEOVER said
So he's saying AP black history is filled with lies, propaganda and ideologies???

I'm trying to understand it, because this is so disingenuous that it's almost like he's telling the truth to people.

And they're accepting it.
absolutely not.

read my other comments.

the proposed course was gonig to be propoganda based on the teachings of radicalist communist extremists
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 1 week ago '17        #8
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x27
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Because black American history is only an ideology and not paramount to the foundation of this country.


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 1 week ago '17        #9
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 JetLifeSwag said
exactly what i said in the other thread

we shouldn't be pushing political ideologies from radicalists on our children

when they introduce an AA course, it should be rooted in historical fact
Because black people love to push lies like how Thanksgiving was a peaceful dinner, Columbus discovered the America's, and slaves were just migrant workers.

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 1 week ago '16        #10
Head Coach 
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
what was actually in the curriculum that he considers ideology or political agendas? Should be pretty cut and dry when you look at the curriculum no? Has that even been shared? Or it's just his word for it?
He said they have a course called "queer theory" and says what part of black history is that...

Can't front that sounds crazy
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 1 week ago '23        #11
JetLifeSwag  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 Naga Sadow said
Because black people love to push lies like how Thanksgiving was a peaceful dinner, Columbus discovered the America's, and slaves were just migrant workers.

bro what are you talking about?

i agree - the curriculum taught in regular US history needs to be reconsidered too.

that's irrelevant to the discussion and point I tried to raise though.

We should be teaching our kids REAL history. The proposed AA studies course relies on scholars that were literal communists and radicalists.
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 1 week ago '04        #12
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 Naga Sadow said
Because black people love to push lies like how Thanksgiving was a peaceful dinner, Columbus discovered the America's, and slaves were just migrant workers.

Get em
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 1 week ago '04        #13
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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 JetLifeSwag said
What I posted previously:

There have also already been reviewes carried out in public on the curriculum for this course.

If leans heavily on marxist ideology and pushes a socialist agenda.

The scholars they planned to study were neo-marxists and ultra radicalists such as Robin D. G. Kelley who was literally a communist. He was a member of the Communist Workers Party.

Perhaps if they revamp what will actually be taught in this course then it could stand a chance. But as it stands, it is currently based around a framework that can heavily radicalize young people.

The education system should not be used for pushing political agendas on students
That's the most context I've seen shared about the topic so props.

 Head Coach said
He said they have a course called "queer theory" and says what part of black history is that...

Can't front that sounds crazy
wtf that is crazy.
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 1 week ago '04        #14
NAKHI ALLAH 
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 JetLifeSwag said
bro what are you talking about?

i agree - the curriculum taught in regular US history needs to be reconsidered too.

that's irrelevant to the discussion and point I tried to raise though.

We should be teaching our kids REAL history. The proposed AA studies course relies on scholars that were literal communists and radicalists.
But is it the truth?
Malcolm was considered a radical to some people but he loved his people and wanted us to excel
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 1 week ago '11        #15
Broseph Stalin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10
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yup, and the next generation will grow up thinking Africans were actually just migrants and Jim Crow and segregation actually wasn’t that bad. The 50s were actually a great time in america…


 JetLifeSwag said
bro what are you talking about?

i agree - the curriculum taught in regular US history needs to be reconsidered too.

that's irrelevant to the discussion and point I tried to raise though.

We should be teaching our kids REAL history. The proposed AA studies course relies on scholars that were literal communists and radicalists.
the funny thing is they use this rhetoric then use it to ban speeches from Mandela, Malcolm X and MLK.
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 1 week ago '10        #16
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 Head Coach said
He said they have a course called "queer theory" and says what part of black history is that...

Can't front that sounds crazy
This.
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 1 week ago '10        #17
Bandito  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 JetLifeSwag said
What I posted previously:

There have also already been reviewes carried out in public on the curriculum for this course.

If leans heavily on marxist ideology and pushes a socialist agenda.

The scholars they planned to study were neo-marxists and ultra radicalists such as Robin D. G. Kelley who was literally a communist. He was a member of the Communist Workers Party.

Perhaps if they revamp what will actually be taught in this course then it could stand a chance. But as it stands, it is currently based around a framework that can heavily radicalize young people.

The education system should not be used for pushing political agendas on students
Why can't you study Marxist and radicals? If you have a class on the history of Black political ideology it is going to include more than a few.

By that metric, MLK wouldn't be able to be studied because he had socialist leanings.

All this sounds like is they only want to talk about the "safe" Black People and ignore a good chunk of history. Nat Turner would be off limits because he was radical in his actions. Malcolm. Baldwin. Etc. Would all be exempt from discussion. Even white people like John Brown would be considered too radical.

I know one of the areas of study was Black Feminism. How are you going to study that without the work of bell hooks?

Any well rounded curriculum about Black History is going to include all the above and more.

You don't have to like or "push" an ideology to discuss it in a classroom setting. A lot of debate about the merits would be had in those classrooms. I think a lot of people complaining about this never went to college. So, they think you always have to agree with the teacher and everyone else in the class. I wrote several papers in school that went against what the teacher was trying to present. I got passing grades because I made a compelling argument which my teacher respected.

Truthfully, any criticism towards those ideologies feels hollow when you are so scared of it you don't even want kids to learn about it and make up their own minds.
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 1 week ago '11        #18
Broseph Stalin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10
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Undercover BXmember uncle Luke thinks black history shouldn’t be taught in schools and instead should be left up to the parents at home to teach. This can only end well.

 Head Coach said
He said they have a course called "queer theory" and says what part of black history is that...

Can't front that sounds crazy
There’s it’s “gender theory” and that sh*t is literally apart of most AP humanities courses. Notice he’s not banning the actual “gender theory” course that seems to bother him so bad


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 1 week ago '05        #19
bklyn 
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In one of the articles I read, they said there were some transgender stuff in that class. That was 1 example of why they flagged it. I think it was new york times
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 1 week ago '23        #20
JetLifeSwag  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 Bandito said
Why can't you study Marxist and radicals? If you have a class on the history of Black political ideology it is going to include more than a few.

By that metric, MLK wouldn't be able to be studied because he had socialist leanings.

All this sounds like is they only want to talk about the "safe" Black People and ignore a good chunk of history. Nat Turner would be off limits because he was radical in his actions. Malcolm. Baldwin. Etc. Would all be exempt from discussion. Even white people like John Brown would be considered too radical.

I know one of the areas of study was Black Feminism. How are you going to study that without the work of bell hooks?

Any well rounded curriculum about Black History is going to include all the above and more.

You don't have to like or "push" an ideology to discuss it in a classroom setting. A lot of debate about the merits would be had in those classrooms. I think a lot of people complaining about this never went to college. So, they think you always have to agree with the teacher and everyone else in the class. I wrote several papers in school that went against what the teacher was trying to present. I got passing grades because I made a compelling argument which my teacher respected.

Truthfully, any criticism towards those ideologies feels hollow when you are so scared of it you don't even want kids to learn about it and make up their own minds.
Appreciate the well thought out response.

I wrote pro-socialist essays when i was younger and malcolm x's teachings have been part of me since i was 9 years old. Bx posters seem to get it twisted because my opinions don't always fall in line with the mainstream (don't forget malcolm x warned us about dems).

Colleges are well known for pushing specific agendas in the modern day, and this course seems to be tipping the line.

Whilst there does seem to be a good amount of useful history included in the curriculum, a lot of the framework and a*signments etc are pushing children to think and act in a certain way.

They should reconsider what's being taught in the course, and come back with a curriculum based on facts rather than personal opinions of radical figures.
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 1 week ago '22        #21
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So they’re basically trying to indoctrinate kids with this progressive nonsense, but they shroud it in “black history,” so if/when you put the breaks on it, they accuse you of racism.


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 1 week ago '23        #22
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 NAKHI ALLAH said
But is it the truth?
Malcolm was considered a radical to some people but he loved his people and wanted us to excel
Is what the truth?

Here's the curriculum for those of you who actually enjoy forming your opinions based on facts & research -


Many good subjects focused around history. The main problem IMO is unit 4 - movements & debates.

The vast majority of the content seems to be coming at it from a far left socialist viewpoint. It doesn't seem to even consider conventional liberal views, nevermind conservative views.

It's clear that there's a political agenda they've tried to weave into the fabrics of the course
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 1 week ago '17        #23
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 Broseph Stalin said
yup, and the next generation will grow up thinking Africans were actually just migrants and Jim Crow and segregation actually wasn’t that bad. The 50s were actually a great time in america…




the funny thing is they use this rhetoric then use it to ban speeches from Mandela, Malcolm X and MLK.
Shidd i had found an article from 1861 talking about how slavery wasnt that bad and how white people in England got it worse.


So this is p much par for the course
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 1 week ago '14        #24
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 JetLifeSwag said
absolutely not.

read my other comments.

the proposed course was gonig to be propoganda based on the teachings of radicalist communist extremists
Words like radicalism, communism, and extremism feel like a way to 'shoo away' people who don't wanna follow the line. Now I agree with you somewhat. Let's start with promoting MORE black history outside of the few names everyone knows. But sometimes we throw those words above in just so we can avoid having any conversation.

For example, if the course decides to teach about Malcom X, would that be considered anti American extremism ?
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 Crispy Beast said
So, they’re basically trying to indoctrinate kids with this progressive nonsense, but they shroud it in “black history” so if/when you put the breaks on it, they accuse you of racism.
Exactly. Then kids come home from school non-binary gay communist and the parents wonder where they went wrong lol

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