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 2 months ago '17        #1
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The 1st 2 episodes of Willow just released and they are........
 

 
horrible

The trailer makes it look amazing

in reality it is bad

I'm not one to accuse hollywood of an "agenda" but this one is overt especially with disney releasing and a animated movie with a gay lead and it bombing.


This one is horribly bad

Let me start off with saying I have no problem with female centric leads but this one feels entirely forced and of course shes a lesbian. I have no problem with Mad Mardigan's daughter taking the lead but they basically split his character traits between his kids

Here is my issue
the next is a bit of a spoiler

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you can have strong female leads and a female centric cast but do it at the expense of everyone else and at the expense of telling a good story.

I usually wait until the 3rd episode to make a thread if one hasnt been made, just so I can get a real feel of the story and cast and where its headed.



I had high hopes for this one and it is just dumb


I'm just glad I dont pay for disney+
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 2 months ago '04        #2
NAKHI ALLAH 
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Thanks for taking one for the team....
All I need is doc, da omega and the drinker's take..
Salute
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 2 months ago '04        #3
web3x 
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Let me ask, is it bad because of the writing and dialogue, or is it bad because there are too many eye roll moments.

If the dialogue is okay, I may be able to stomach the eyeroll moments if there are some great character arcs.

 2 months ago '15        #4
Bonaparte 
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smh, Val Kilmer didn't die for this,
[spoiler - click to view]




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 2 months ago '06        #5
aussie08  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Yea I was excited for this, another forced agenda
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 2 months ago '17        #6
dubsax  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2 OP
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 web3x said
Let me ask, is it bad because of the writing and dialogue, or is it bad because there are too many eye roll moments.

If the dialogue is okay, I may be able to stomach the eyeroll moments if there are some great character arcs.
its just bad and I can like bad entertainment if its entertaining and I want to like it


I wanted to like this but its horrible
The writing is bad.
Bad jokes
Willow is just kind of just a co star if even that

My issue is that s*xuality of any kind should not be a plot device in programing geared towards children
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 2 months ago '17        #7
dubsax  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2 OP
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 aussie08 said
Yea I was excited for this, another forced agenda
Like I said I have no problem with female focused stories
and based on the movie this one had to be female focus with the story evolving around the baby Elora Danon.

But it shouldnt come at the expense of anyone else.
So far there are no strong male roles, besides Willow and he has a backseat so far

Its also a turn off for me when they play bingo with casting and writing for roles.
Putting a gay black female in an interracial relationship checks the most boxes and is just lazy. Its commonly done in modern media, pandering to as many groups as possible with as little as possible.

Mad Mardigans daughters girlfriend is the ginger girl from the trailer, who is mixed and a lesbian in real life so its not so much as acting as it is shaping a role around a person
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 2 months ago '04        #8
booie4 
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I hate to hear this but I'm still going to watch it
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 2 months ago '15        #9
Jital 
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Don't forget about the corny jokes - sh*ts terrible

 2 months ago '07        #10
swiftkid21 
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I said it was a*s from day 1 of the trailer
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 2 months ago '15        #11
Fantastic 
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 dubsax said
its just bad and I can like bad entertainment if its entertaining and I want to like it


I wanted to like this but its horrible
The writing is bad.
Bad jokes
Willow is just kind of just a co star if even that

My issue is that s*xuality of any kind should not be a plot device in programing geared towards children
Well didney fired the ceo bc they were going too political. Nobody wants to see gays except for gays.
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 2 months ago '04        #12
SCENE 
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on the other handů Rings of Power
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 2 months ago '17        #13
dubsax  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2 OP
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 Fantastic said
Well didney fired the ceo bc they were going too political. Nobody wants to see gays except for gays.
keep in mind I dont like it for the same reason i didnt like season 3 of Atlanta

you can be pro something without being anti something else.

In Atlanta's case it was always a pro black series of satire based on the black culture at large with Atlanta being the sub cultural back drop.

season 3 got all the way from that and just became silly sh*t we hate about white people and has nothing to do with its namesake


In willows case they are promoting the idea of the strong independent woman but at the expense of men.

a good writer can have one without the expense of the other

as far as the the gay part its a slippery slope
lees than 3% identify as LGBTQ nationally but west hollywood where most writers and producers live has historically been at or above 40%

so as far as what 99% see in daily life its an over representation but as far as where they live its under representation

so as far as seeing gays on tv its not a problem for me so long as its not just a plot device and is integral to the story of ADULT programming.

no s*x should be part of the plot childrens programming


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 2 months ago '17        #14
Poncho520 
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Sounds exactly like that trash heman remake.

Also same crap with the Velma show

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 2 months ago '17        #15
dubsax  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2 OP
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 booie4 said
I hate to hear this but I'm still going to watch it
I'll probably will still too
I usually wait until the 3rd episode of any program to really have an opinion but this was just too blatant

 2 months ago '17        #16
dubsax  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2 OP
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 Poncho520 said
Sounds exactly like that trash heman remake.

Also same crap with the Velma show

he man was always had a gay subtext
I never realized it until I was older and my sisters called it out when they asked what toys I played with when I was little

he always wore pastels and tights
wore an S&M harness
hardly any female characters
looked more like a male stripper than action hero


lesbians took over velma
like gays did rainbows from leprechauns
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Top 10 most propped recently  2 months ago '22        #17
BreakkerSzn  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x50
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Disney+ only good for they classics like
Lion King
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 2 months ago '14        #18
Cuttysark 
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sh*t flames to me

You n*ggas cry too much
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 2 months ago '04        #19
doczdaname  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Dudes really watch this fairy tale sh*t like that?
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 2 months ago '20        #20
5ive04our  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x229
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 SCENE said
on the other handů Rings of Power
That shxt a*s my g

 2 months ago '06        #21
Kingme 
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Amateur white supremacists find something to bi*ch about in everything. fu*king snowflakes.

 2 months ago '18        #22
Proffesor X  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Why does it seem like every n*gga who bi*ches about agendas.......is always on an agenda themselves......

bi*ches exist n*gga.........and not all of them are timid. ......on top of that its a story about magical fu*king dwarfs who live in a land of fairies and wizards.........if gender wars is that much of a reality for you that even a made up children's show can't escape your wrath of rage.....then maybe its yall ......
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 2 months ago '17        #23
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I've only seen the first episode, and thought something felt a little off.

I asked my youngest son to watch it with me, and he got up to use the bathroom and never came back- so it wasn't just me.

Gonna try and catch up some, but if it's how you expressed then I'll just throw on the original classic Willow and call it a day. Gotta know when to fold as they say.

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 2 months ago '05        #24
P DRILLA 
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gonna check it out

 2 months ago '05        #25
blaznfor20  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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No Madmartigan?!?! Pass
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