After the New York Yankees saw their preseason efforts rejected when Aaron Judge tossed away a seven-year, $213.5 million deal (with a 2022 arbitration salary attached), they must’ve known they were going to have to approach the Mike Trout-held record for position player AAV in order to retain him after the season.

The only thing they didn’t know was how good a season Judge would have, and whether or not the onus would be on them to bring him back at all costs.

Turns out, pretty good! Judge passed the American League home run record, slamming his 62nd of the season in Arlington and setting himself up for a record payday. Per the latest report from Jeff Passan, the Yankees’ initial offer reflected the new normal, and the team hopes to have a resolution on a potential Judge deal by the end of the Winter Meetings.

According to Passan, the Yankees’ offer sits at approximately eight years and $300 million, which appears to have been made before Judge departed for the San Francisco stops on his free agency tour.

It doesn’t seem like anything that has happened between Judge and the Giants shattered the estimation that No. 99 is more likely than not to return to the Bronx. If that’s the case, how much higher will the Yankees have to go to satisfy him? An additional year at a similar AAV? A few more million per year as a gesture of goodwill, along with the captain’s C? There’s nothing to be ashamed of about the current offer, though Judge still needs to complete the process.

Yankees contract offer to Aaron Judge would set free agency record

It’s also important to note that YES Network’s own Jack Curry tossed out the exact same figures the other day as a casual estimate for where Judge’s deal would end up.

Let this be a lesson, for those who doubted it: when Curry throws out a number, he’s not just throwing out a number. He knows.

https://twitter.com/MichiganYankees/status/1597448460982452224

 https://twitter.com/MichiganYankees/status/1597448460982452224

Whether the Yankees are “hopeful,” “confident,” or some combination of the two about their ability to retain Judge, it’s clear they’re serious about offering a number that matches the season he just put up.

The back end of this deal will hurt, in all likelihood, but the Yankees are uniquely positioned to absorb that pain. They’re also uniquely positioned to take advantage of Judge’s stardom in the meantime.






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37.5M per season. I still think it's way too low. Rendon/Scherzer makes more than that. I think the Giants and Mets will sweep him away.

Yankees print money, don't understand why they playing hardball give em a blank check and call it a day. If Judge signs elsewhere, there's nobody else who's going to fill his void.

That's it?

Scherzer is making $43 million per, Cole is making $36 per, Trout is making $35 million per, Rendon is making $35 million per, and Straburg is making $35 million per. And, all of those contracts were signed in the past.

He should probably be in the $40 million per range based off all of the attention he brought to baseball/the Yankees, his MVP, and inflation based off of those older contracts.

You'd think a team like SF would offer him 10 years $400 million or so

Kind of low all things considered

I mean he's been hurt quite a bit but if they plan on lowballing him they better be going all out in free agency.

For a 30yr old I see no problem with this….

Yankees being cheap. Wouldn’t blame him if he signs somewhere else

he's gone

Dummy, they can go up to that offer depending what other bids he will receive

Southpaw said view image After the New York Yankees saw their preseason efforts rejected when Aaron Judge tossed away a seven-year, $213.5 million deal (with a 2022 arbitration salary attached), they must’ve known they were going to have to approach the Mike Trout-held record for position player AAV in order to retain him after the season. The only thing they didn’t know was how good a season Judge would have, and whether or not the onus would be on them to bring him back at all costs. Turns out, pretty good! Judge passed the American League home run record, slamming his 62nd of the season in Arlington and setting himself up for a record payday. Per the latest report from Jeff Passan, the Yankees’ initial offer reflected the new normal, and the team hopes to have a resolution on a potential Judge deal by the end of the Winter Meetings. According to Passan, the Yankees’ offer sits at approximately eight years and $300 million, which appears to have been made before Judge departed for the San Francisco stops on his free agency tour. It doesn’t seem like anything that has happened between Judge and the Giants shattered the estimation that No. 99 is more likely than not to return to the Bronx. If that’s the case, how much higher will the Yankees have to go to satisfy him? An additional year at a similar AAV? A few more million per year as a gesture of goodwill, along with the captain’s C? There’s nothing to be ashamed of about the current offer, though Judge still needs to complete the process. Yankees contract offer to Aaron Judge would set free agency record It’s also important to note that YES Network’s own Jack Curry tossed out the exact same figures the other day as a casual estimate for where Judge’s deal would end up. Let this be a lesson, for those who doubted it: when Curry throws out a number, he’s not just throwing out a number. He knows. view image Whether the Yankees are “hopeful,” “confident,” or some combination of the two about their ability to retain Judge, it’s clear they’re serious about offering a number that matches the season he just put up. The back end of this deal will hurt, in all likelihood, but the Yankees are uniquely positioned to absorb that pain. They’re also uniquely positioned to take advantage of Judge’s stardom in the meantime. view image Yankees Universe @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @@ @ @ view image

not enough, he'll leave that offer on the table

Probably not enough but his performance in the playoffs could have hurt his value a little.

California kids don’t wanna live in New York once they realize the reality of the weather & environment

kawgre12 said he's gone

That offer is more than fair. Dude is 31. He will be a DH 4-5 years into that deal.

POWER RAPS said Bro leave that dude alone. He craves the attention of men. When he said the Yankees should’ve paid him in the beginning of the year you should’ve deaded the whole convo right there

Bklynzfinest said I gave a range... $45M per for 8....$50M per for 5 Wanna put an honest $25 wager on it? What do u say will be the contract?

Nautilus O said Maybe you just play video games 50M for 5 is 250M 45 for 8 is 440M They we’re offering him 213/7years If they give him 300/7 years that’s 42 a year That’s 6 more than what he was looking for a the beginning of the year

Nautilus O said There’s a simple answer to this If the Yankees pay him $50M per year, you were right If they don’t, I was right bookmarked

another one

Good. They can have him. Same old dumbass Yankees.

Thats the low ball offer after they already fumbled it earlier in the season? Cashman just gets worse and worse. Even Yankee fans gotta be seeing thru his bullsh*t by now.

Yankees fan checking in

This offer sucks considering how much hes been underpaid to this point of his career. Between this offer, the offer back in April, Cashman going public with that offer, the arbitration nonsense nickel and diming Judge...i wouldnt blame him if he walks

heard the white sox offered 5/350

Him gone for that
But I can see why the offer

Yankees about to get outbid by the giants a team that’s not really known for spending money times have definitely changed

Nautilus O said another one

I'm a*suming u @me because u were right about something? But I don't get what...

my point (correct me i'm wrong--i really don't remember) wasn't just what the yankees 'offered,' but the type of deal he'll sign--yanks ain't the only players in the race. Neither did he actually sign anything yet, so whatever 'i told u so's' that you're going for, seems a bit premature. MLB currently says they're offering him a "historic" offer, which 8yr/300M ain't...so we really can't say anything about the results.

Bklynzfinest said I'm a*suming u @me because u were right about something? But I don't get what... my point (correct me i'm wrong--i really don't remember) wasn't just what the yankees 'offered,' but the type of deal he'll sign--yanks ain't the only players in the race. Neither did he actually sign anything yet, so whatever 'i told u so's' that you're going for, seems a bit premature. MLB currently says they're offering him a "historic" offer, which 8yr/300M ain't...so we really can't say anything about the results.

I told you the Yankees would not offer him what you thought they would based on what they offered him already

Me:

Nautilus O said Judge wanted 34-36 at the beginning of the season. Mike Trout’s contract is $426M, the Yankees aren’t giving Judge that much money

You:

Bklynzfinest said At the beginning of the year he had 0 homeruns... Now he has 62 and the yanks saw they would be battling for the wild card if it wasn't for him...huge difference. Trout's contract is over 12, years...clearly they're not giving a 31 year old 12, years...but they will give him 8 and don't be surprised if it's $50M per year. So that'll be $400M...he doesn't have to get the highest total package...he'll just be the highest paid baseball player, which is his goal I'm sure after this season...and he won't be argued with.

another one

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This deal gives him the record for the highest AAV for a position player in MLB history ANDDDDD the security for the amount of years he wanted.

Y’all saying the Yankees being cheap, this is pretty much the deal he wanted in the first place

That deal right there would make him the highest paid position player from a per year average standpoint. How are people gonna say that it's a lowball offer

Stu Shiesty said That offer is more than fair. Dude is 31. He will be a DH 4-5 years into that deal.

That's a terrible offer compared to his value to the Yankees

Nautilus O said I told you the Yankees would not offer him what you thought they would based on what they offered him already Me: You: another one

oh I get it now. Isn't this their rumored first offer? (and I'm surprised ur using the first rumored number to come out to make this point, btw )...u don't pay much attention to baseball, so I saw why you ran in here like this is legit.

I mean, can we get some confirmation? Because this offer they put up is low and just seems like good ol' negotiation. Team personnel (and agents) will float numbers to 'hot stove' reporters to drive up or down a player's market...

this isn't the yanks 'arguing with' judge and his perceived value...this is just par for the course negotiation. It's still low, and may rub Judge the wrong way, but that's why I said his goal is to be the highest paid player in the league. U can hang on to the yankee-specific offer thing if u want...wasn't my main point. I used the yanks as an example for obvious reasons--he was already on the team, and given his historic run, they'd be the favorites to bid the most on him. But I was always clear that if they didn't offer him what he wanted, he's walking. The 'highest paid player' was always my main point. From same thread:

Bklynzfinest said The thing is, 1st thing is a given in his situation...he's gonna make the most per year...so that's at least 44M, that's why i said 45 is the start...if it's gonna be 45, he's gonna want years comparable to those other top players, which is in double digits...but he's too old, at 31 to get that...so that's why he'd go $45 for 8...that's the minimum...he may get them to go as high as 47 for 8...but if he wants to make a statement and go the 50M threshold, I don't think the yanks want to pay him that much for any longer than 5 years...maaaybe the do 50 for 6...but it severely hampers your payroll when 1 player is making so much for too long...so something in the middle of the range like $47 for 8 is probably more realistic for his case.