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Gary Payton says LeBron James is by far a better all-around basketball player than Jordan.



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 2 months ago '19        #1
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Gary Payton says LeBron James is by far a better all-around basketball player than Jordan.
 

 
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 2 months ago '13        #2
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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If Mike prevented me from getting a ring i would say the same

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 2 months ago '19        #3
KeyserSoze  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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so...


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 2 months ago '22        #4
Enemieshennessy 
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You dudes about to argue about this again?
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 2 months ago '05        #5
Wondah_Woman  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x12
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 Enemieshennessy said
You dudes about to argue about this again?


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 2 months ago '14        #6
215Philly  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x21
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 2 months ago '15        #7
donnyyy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x22
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ESPN fried y’all brains
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 2 months ago '04        #8
shadychef04  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Gary Payton salty as fu*k
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 2 months ago '17        #9
PackerTrelli3  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x21
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 THEDONN said
If Mike prevented me from getting a ring i would say the same

So what reasons do haters of Lebron have

Whose word means more?
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 2 months ago '13        #10
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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 PackerTrelli3 said
So what reasons do haters of Lebron have

Whose word means more?
U would have to ask them, I wouldn't know, Bron 3rd on my list
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 2 months ago '16        #11
hhspot 
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Bron hasnt won a Defensive POY…




Last edited by hhspot; 10-03-2022 at 08:40 PM..
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 2 months ago '04        #12
bibbyboi 
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This shouldn't be debatable. LBJ is the best all around player ever. That doesn't mean MJ isn't the goat still.
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 2 months ago '05        #13
Rockstar718 
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All around just means versatility, at Brons size and his longevity in the game he's probably gonna go down as one of the best all around players of all time.

None of that has to do with Jordan's career or greatness.

Just let to greats live, and breathe separately. They have different careers, played in different eras and had different impacts on the game.

Both are all time greats. For different reasons. And that's OK.
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 2 months ago '17        #14
PackerTrelli3  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x21
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 hhspot said
Bron hasnt won a Defensive POY…
That’s like saying 2pac never won a Grammy….
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 2 months ago '07        #15
stogz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Lebron hasn't really don't anything that Jordan didn't already prove he can do.


Jordan's 4th coach in five years told him to ease back on trying to do everything, and shortly after that, the band of competent players on his team became great in their roles and soon rings were won. Even when he left for a bit, those players were still playoff bound because Jordan legit made them better.

Lebron tries to do everything and doesn't listen to coaches, hence 6 finals losses... and getting upset in the playoffs SEVERAL times.... and the teammates that y'all claim he made better, when he left them, they were bottom feeder teams. So, he really didn't do sh*t for them at all. But hey, at least he can say he's the most helped player in the history of team sports.
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 2 months ago '05        #16
blah blah blah  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x59
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Lefraud is just big. His skills are all subpar. Stiff arming for layups doesn’t make you good
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 2 months ago '21        #17
The Chosen One  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 215Philly said

Phil Jackson was being magnanimous and mendacious towards ingrate Scottie Pippen because he knew how mentally weak Pippen was but in reality...

Offensive Win Shares

1. Michael Jordan 145.8

2. Scottie Pippen 47.1

Defensive Win Shares

1. Michael Jordan 58.7

2. Scottie Pippen 52.7


Win Shares

1. Michael Jordan 204.5

2. Scottie Pippen 99.7


Win Shares Per 48 Minutes

1. Michael Jordan .274

2. Chet Walker .204

Box Plus/Minus

1. Michael Jordan 10.2

2. Scottie Pippen 4.7

Offensive Box Plus/Minus

1. Michael Jordan 7.9

2. Zach LaVine 3.3
3. Toni Kukoč 3.0
4. Chet Walker 3.0
5. Artis Gilmore 3.0
6. Pau Gasol 2.8
7. Scottie Pippen 2.8

Defensive Box Plus/Minus

1. Ronnie Brewer 2.9
2. Ben Wallace*l 2.8
3. Adrian Griffin 2.8
4. Michael Jordan 2.3
5. Joakim Noah 2.2
6. Tyrus Thomas 2.1
7. Ron Harper 2.1
8. Ömer Aşık 2.0
9. Tom Boerwinkle 2.0
10. Scottie Pippen 1.9

Value Over Replacement Player

1. Michael Jordan 110.5

2. Scottie Pippen 51.1

Michael Jordan was undeniably the best player on the Bulls and the most important player in history.

Scottie Pippen didn't win any regular season MVPs or Finals MVPs or scoring titles or DPOY.
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 2 months ago '17        #18
bossflossy 
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gary knows what he's talking about
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 2 months ago '04        #19
nwking  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Doesn't really matter it wal vary from generation to generation. My ine saw Wilt Chamberlain play in real life and he thinks he's the best player ever. My cousin's who's in his mid 50s thinks Julius erving is the best. I grew up watching MJ 89+ but Kobe is is my favorite player and I think he's the best and even better than Bron. I think we can all agree we are witnesses greatness even if you don't like Bron but love basketball you have to respect that no one has been this good for this long not MJ, not Kobe,
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Top 10 most propped recently  2 months ago '04        #20
ddash 
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Everyday lol
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 2 months ago '15        #21
drose1985 
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Yall get mad at another person's opinion. Especially those who have played against the ppl yall fans of or against. What makes your opinion more qualified than his? Not everyone going to agree, but the consensus will say jordan. So either way Jordan will still be number 1 on many ppl list.
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 2 months ago '17        #22
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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sportsbook top 10


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 2 months ago '15        #23
donnyyy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x22
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Its like yall are on a constant loop of saying the exact same thing over and over and nothing changes

You can talk about anything in the NBA world and years in a row you keep doing THIS
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 2 months ago '15        #24
drose1985 
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 nwking said
Doesn't really matter it wal vary from generation to generation. My ine saw Wilt Chamberlain play in real life and he thinks he's the best player ever. My cousin's who's in his mid 50s thinks Julius erving is the best. I grew up watching MJ 89+ but Kobe is is my favorite player and I think he's the best and even better than Bron. I think we can all agree we are witnesses greatness even if you don't like Bron but love basketball you have to respect that no one has been this good for this long not MJ, not Kobe,
Exactly mfs on here be having civil wars over who the best. Opinion based and its hilarious seeing ppl who can't touch rim get butt hurt over a professionals opinion lol.
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 2 months ago '15        #25
drose1985 
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 donnyyy said
Its like yall are on a constant loop of saying the exact same thing over and over and nothing changes

You can talk about anything in the NBA world and years in a row you keep doing THIS
Yet bx loves when that optimus prime dude makes daily thread of his jordan obsession lol.
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