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2Pac Knew The Sharif Role Was A Setup. He Knew They Didn’t Want Him In Menace II Society.



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 2 years ago '22        #26
Brooklyn1998 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
sh1t was weirs. Sharif was supposed to be NOI or a Sunni Muslim. But was nwver selling papers, encouraged dumb sh1t and talked down on the sisyer that led to both Sharif n Kains demise.. Kain is telling Sharif how he jacked a foo for his ride and Sharif is laughing and encouraging sh1t..

Fake righteous is why he died, he was flexing as though he was helping but he was on the fence with changing his life. And how Kain aint have a strap... they were moving to Kansas or atL right?

Anyways a Muslim constantly being in the midst of banging didnt make sense.
U wild a little bit on sharif

 2 years ago '22        #27
Brooklyn1998 
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 Almighty HA said 🔗
Facts. Always thought Sharif's character was out of place in that film.
Nah it fit that was the hood back then
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 2 years ago '17        #28
Almighty HA 
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 Brooklyn1998 said 🔗
Nah it fit that was the hood back then
I know but with the story, I can see why Pac felt like that. As a reformed gang banger/muslim, he wouldn't even be hanging with them tbh. That's just my opinion.
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 2 years ago '16        #29
BitterDiesel 
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 Almighty HA said 🔗
I know but with the story, I can see why Pac felt like that. As a reformed gang banger/muslim, he wouldn't even be hanging with them tbh. That's just my opinion.
 Chozen said 🔗
It's like you didn't watch or understand the movie. "Sharif was an ex knucklehead turned Muslim. He was so happy to be learning something he liked he kept coming at us with it"

n1gga was newly converted after doing dirt his whole life. The dichotomy of those two things at play within a young brother is very real. Yeah he was NOI but he was a street n1gga longer than NOI. Probably rebelled against his father Christian lifestyle but that's another story.
 Brooklyn1998 said 🔗
U wild a little bit on sharif
I guess Pac was too.. the scriot has to make sense.


Bro.. In LA, During that time Mosque 27, was not allowing a Fruit to be unactive and hanging in the street with his ex gang.. Plus how you leave the set and still be on the set?

New converts as per NOI FOI processing rules.. You stay on them hard, train them fast and constantly contacting them to keep them active so they won't return to thier old ways.

Sharif was a new convert..but had the name Sharif didnt have an X...automatically had a holy name.. they said he was a follower of farrakhan.. he wasnt even a Sunni or Shia, Sufi etc.

Never had a beanpie, no whiting, no navy bean suit, not even a Final Call or Class A "black double breast dress suit." No nothing..

But a Leather Kufi, NOI don't even let you rock Kufis like that... Especially then.... nothing was just with his homies acting self righteous when they was tryna drink beer etc... he didnt quote no Message to the Black Man, no Supreme Wisdom lessons, Supreme Alphabet nor Mathematics.. just told them about Pork and Beer..even sat on the cooler smh


And encouraging negativity and misogyny against black women.
"Maaan that girl's a ho"

yall know damn well that was Kain baby.

And in the end he died because he couldn't stray away from his old friends who would eventually return him to his old habits..So he shared that death with Kain for still encouraging negativity.. literally killed by Junior.


I'm just keeping it real
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nd hell I wouldve been asking them questions at the script reading too.


Last edited by BitterDiesel; 09-28-2022 at 03:42 PM..
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 2 years ago '22        #30
Brooklyn1998 
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 Almighty HA said 🔗
I know but with the story, I can see why Pac felt like that. As a reformed gang banger/muslim, he wouldn't even be hanging with them tbh. That's just my opinion.
Depends on the person and back then a lot of conscious dudes was in the streets remember there is really no separation btwn the streets amd the conscious g Malcolm said thats what the govt fears most the conscious gangsta

 2 years ago '16        #31
BitterDiesel 
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 Brooklyn1998 said 🔗
Depends on the person and back then a lot of conscious dudes was in the streets remember there is really no separation btwn the streets amd the conscious g Malcolm said thats what the govt fears most the conscious gangsta
To many skewed views, weird of put idealisms and what aboutisms and not actual facts..


Fact is in the film..you can delete Sharif and its still the same film.
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 2 years ago '22        #32
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 Brooklyn1998 said 🔗
Shut up
“Shut don’t go up prices do take my advice & screw you”
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 2 years ago '05        #33
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
sh1t was weirs. Sharif was supposed to be NOI or a Sunni Muslim. But was nwver selling papers, encouraged dumb sh1t and talked down on the sisyer that led to both Sharif n Kains demise.. Kain is telling Sharif how he jacked a foo for his ride and Sharif is laughing and encouraging sh1t..

Fake righteous is why he died, he was flexing as though he was helping but he was on the fence with changing his life. And how Kain aint have a strap... they were moving to Kansas or atL right?

Anyways a Muslim constantly being in the midst of banging didnt make sense.
 Chozen said 🔗
It's like you didn't watch or understand the movie. "Sharif was an ex knucklehead turned Muslim. He was so happy to be learning something he liked he kept coming at us with it"

n1gga was newly converted after doing dirt his whole life. The dichotomy of those two things at play within a young brother is very real. Yeah he was NOI but he was a street n1gga longer than NOI. Probably rebelled against his father Christian lifestyle but that's another story.
 BitterDiesel said 🔗
I guess Pac was too.. the scriot has to make sense.


Bro.. In LA, During that time Mosque 27, was not allowing a Fruit to be unactive and hanging in the street with his ex gang.. Plus how you leave the set and still be on the set?

New converts as per NOI FOI processing rules.. You stay on them hard, train them fast and constantly contacting them to keep them active so they won't return to thier old ways.

Sharif was a new convert..but had the name Sharif didnt have an X...automatically had a holy name.. they said he was a follower of farrakhan.. he wasnt even a Sunni or Shia, Sufi etc.

Never had a beanpie, no whiting, no navy bean suit, not even a Final Call or Class A "black double breast dress suit." No nothing..

But a Leather Kufi, NOI don't even let you rock Kufis like that... Especially then.... nothing was just with his homies acting self righteous when they was tryna drink beer etc... he didnt quote no Message to the Black Man, no Supreme Wisdom lessons, Supreme Alphabet nor Mathematics.. just told them about Pork and Beer..even sat on the cooler smh


And encouraging negativity and misogyny against black women.
"Maaan that girl's a ho"

yall know damn well that was Kain baby.

And in the end he died because he couldn't stray away from his old friends who would eventually return him to his old habits..So he shared that death with Kain for still encouraging negativity.. literally killed by Junior.


I'm just keeping it real
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nd hell I wouldve been asking them questions at the script reading too.


Yo this whole exchange was dope…

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 2 years ago '22        #34
JalaludinHaqani 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
sh1t was weirs. Sharif was supposed to be NOI or a Sunni Muslim. But was nwver selling papers, encouraged dumb sh1t and talked down on the sisyer that led to both Sharif n Kains demise.. Kain is telling Sharif how he jacked a foo for his ride and Sharif is laughing and encouraging sh1t..

Fake righteous is why he died, he was flexing as though he was helping but he was on the fence with changing his life. And how Kain aint have a strap... they were moving to Kansas or atL right?

Anyways a Muslim constantly being in the midst of banging didnt make sense.
The Quran mentions those who vacillate...fancy word for those who alternate between sides. Non believers and believers.

It also says human beings are weak though and that God is merciful.

As long as his dalliance with non believers don't involve him betraying the believers...it is what it is

 2 years ago '11        #35
BigLap704 
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So pretty much Pac just wanted them to go into further detail as to why Sharif changed his life around and the Hughes Bro was like nah you go get this "Sharif was an ex knucklehead turned Muslim. He was so happy to be learning something he liked he kept coming at us with it" and that's your story.

 2 years ago '16        #36
BitterDiesel 
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 JalaludinHaqani said 🔗
The Quran mentions those who vacillate...fancy word for those who alternate between sides. Non believers and believers.

It also says human beings are weak though and that God is merciful.

As long as his dalliance with non believers don't involve him betraying the believers...it is what it is
Thanks for the knowledge ahki. But thats the point Im making about the character Sharif...and the film. It wasn't any meat to the character to explain his psyche and again...the character was wrote flawed..but described as righteous..
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 2 years ago '11        #37
BigLap704 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
I guess Pac was too.. the scriot has to make sense.


Bro.. In LA, During that time Mosque 27, was not allowing a Fruit to be unactive and hanging in the street with his ex gang.. Plus how you leave the set and still be on the set?

New converts as per NOI FOI processing rules.. You stay on them hard, train them fast and constantly contacting them to keep them active so they won't return to thier old ways.

Sharif was a new convert..but had the name Sharif didnt have an X...automatically had a holy name.. they said he was a follower of farrakhan.. he wasnt even a Sunni or Shia, Sufi etc.

Never had a beanpie, no whiting, no navy bean suit, not even a Final Call or Class A "black double breast dress suit." No nothing..

But a Leather Kufi, NOI don't even let you rock Kufis like that... Especially then.... nothing was just with his homies acting self righteous when they was tryna drink beer etc... he didnt quote no Message to the Black Man, no Supreme Wisdom lessons, Supreme Alphabet nor Mathematics.. just told them about Pork and Beer..even sat on the cooler smh


And encouraging negativity and misogyny against black women.
"Maaan that girl's a ho"

yall know damn well that was Kain baby.

And in the end he died because he couldn't stray away from his old friends who would eventually return him to his old habits..So he shared that death with Kain for still encouraging negativity.. literally killed by Junior.


I'm just keeping it real
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nd hell I wouldve been asking them questions at the script reading too.


How was he still encouraging negativity? Did you forget that he was literally helping them pack up Ronnie crib so her and Caine could move to Atlanta and that Sharif himself was about to move out the hood to Kansas with Stacy???
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 2 years ago '22        #38
JalaludinHaqani 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
Thanks for the knowledge ahki. But thats the point Im making about the character Sharif...and the film. It wasn't any meat to the character to explain his psyche and again...the character was wrote flawed..but described as righteous..
He was flawed. Not everyone has the discipline and determination to fully commit to good or evil. If they don't hurt people I try not to judge

 2 years ago '20        #39
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
I guess Pac was too.. the scriot has to make sense.


Bro.. In LA, During that time Mosque 27, was not allowing a Fruit to be unactive and hanging in the street with his ex gang.. Plus how you leave the set and still be on the set?

New converts as per NOI FOI processing rules.. You stay on them hard, train them fast and constantly contacting them to keep them active so they won't return to thier old ways.

Sharif was a new convert..but had the name Sharif didnt have an X...automatically had a holy name.. they said he was a follower of farrakhan.. he wasnt even a Sunni or Shia, Sufi etc.

Never had a beanpie, no whiting, no navy bean suit, not even a Final Call or Class A "black double breast dress suit." No nothing..

But a Leather Kufi, NOI don't even let you rock Kufis like that... Especially then.... nothing was just with his homies acting self righteous when they was tryna drink beer etc... he didnt quote no Message to the Black Man, no Supreme Wisdom lessons, Supreme Alphabet nor Mathematics.. just told them about Pork and Beer..even sat on the cooler smh


And encouraging negativity and misogyny against black women.
"Maaan that girl's a ho"

yall know damn well that was Kain baby.

And in the end he died because he couldn't stray away from his old friends who would eventually return him to his old habits..So he shared that death with Kain for still encouraging negativity.. literally killed by Junior.


I'm just keeping it real
emoji



nd hell I wouldve been asking them questions at the script reading too.
I'm not even sure if it would be fair to say he was NOI. He could've been Muslim just cuz he said he was and it seems Sharif was his birth name. No shot all them hood n1ggas just called him Sharif when he was being stupid if he had another name before that. Plus we gotta remember that aside from A Wax (they just mention he was older) these n1ggas were all high school age. Kain and Stacy we know just graduated and O Dog was a minor so it's safe to assume Sharif was 18 like Kai . Did they blatantly state he was a follower of Farrakhan? Seemed like a throwaway joke or offhand comment from what I can remember

 2 years ago '16        #40
BitterDiesel 
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 JalaludinHaqani said 🔗
He was flawed. Not everyone has the discipline and determination to fully commit to good or evil. If they don't hurt people I try not to judge
....bro we talking about a movie. Pls....just pls.
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 2 years ago '16        #41
BitterDiesel 
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 Chozen said 🔗
I'm not even sure if it would be fair to say he was NOI. He could've been Muslim just cuz he said he was and it seems Sharif was his birth name. No shot all them hood n1ggas just called him Sharif when he was being stupid if he had another name before that. Plus we gotta remember that aside from A Wax (they just mention he was older) these n1ggas were all high school age. Kain and Stacy we know just graduated and O Dog was a minor so it's safe to assume Sharif was 18 like Kai . Did they blatantly state he was a follower of Farrakhan? Seemed like a throwaway joke or offhand comment from what I can remember
Naaah his Father at the school with Kain was talking bout the nation..


Ima bow out cause even MC eiht said that Sharif character was just a petty move.

 2 years ago '16        #42
BitterDiesel 
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 BigLap704 said 🔗
How was he still encouraging negativity? Did you forget that he was literally helping them pack up Ronnie crib so her and Caine could move to Atlanta and that Sharif himself was about to move out the hood to Kansas with Stacy???
"That girls a hoe"

The talk on the phone Kain was talking about robbin dude at the burger joint.. play the movie and get back to me

 2 years ago '22        #43
JalaludinHaqani 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
....bro we talking about a movie. Pls....just pls.
Lol

 2 years ago '16        #44
BitterDiesel 
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 JalaludinHaqani said 🔗
Lol
You better be in the masjid with that too now.
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 2 years ago '11        #45
BigLap704 
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 BitterDiesel said 🔗
"That girls a hoe"

The talk on the phone Kain was talking about robbin dude at the burger joint.. play the movie and get back to me
So when they was at the graduation party and he was sitting on the cooler telling them not to drink the beer or later on that night when Caine and Harold got shot wasn't he the only one that said it wasn't right to leave Harold's body in the middle of the street or how bout before Caine decided to move to Atlanta with Ronnie didn't Sharif try to talk Caine into coming to Kansas with him and Stacy???


You might need to play the movie back because you reaching on this one bruh



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 2 years ago '16        #46
BitterDiesel 
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 BigLap704 said 🔗
So when they was at the graduation party and he was sitting on the cooler telling them not to drink the beer or later on that night when Caine and Harold got shot wasn't he the only one that said it wasn't right to leave Harold's body in the middle of the street or how bout before Caine decided to move to Atlanta with Ronnie didn't Sharif try to talk Caine into coming to Kansas with him and Stacy???


You might need to play the movie back because you reaching on this one bruh



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Mannnn what? Harold was dead.. He shoulda went. He shoulda made Harold give up the whip instead of PNB rocking that car. Gtfoh

Sitting on a cooler making people not drink beer is damn near religious fascism. How you gone stop them from drinking beer because you muslim... Im muslim I dont go to the store and throw away all the alcohol and pork nor do I beat people up about it...


Btw. During that time Kansas was crippn heavy anyway. Them two lil scruny as examples aint righteous.. sh1t is just moral codes.


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 2 years ago '07        #47
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Starts @ 11:30

It wasn't a set up. Tupac didn't want a lead role. He just wanted them to add more to the plot for his character and that wasn't going to happen at that time. Tupac was on one at the time of the shooting. That's right after Juice and that's when Tupac started changing as a person. Many confirm this about him.


Last edited by Bullseye; 09-28-2022 at 07:01 PM..
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 2 years ago '20        #48
ProfessionalDon  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x27
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Sharif character never made any sense to me, seemed out of place, no backstory

Like when you watch Juice, all the characters have a story, you get a little insight in to their lives

I had no feelings toward Sharif
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 2 years ago '16        #49
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 Bullseye said 🔗
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Starts @ 11:30

It wasn't a set up. Tupac didn't want a lead role. He just wanted them to add more to the plot for his character and that wasn't going to happen at that time. Tupac was on one at the time of the shooting. That's right after Juice and that's when Tupac started changing as a person. Many confirm this about him.
many? who?

mc eiht basically was saying pac was a headache from previous working with them when he put them on and they didn't want him it in the movie, but used his name to get the deal so they gave him a small part so they won't have to deal with him. shock G was the first person with pac and told many stories that pac was always wild and he always got into it with him and kicked him off tour. sh1t pac stayed getting into it on the set of juice everybody got tired of him on the set so what are we talking bout here lol

 2 years ago '22        #50
Brooklyn1998 
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 Uncle Joey said 🔗
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Boo that sh!t was wack
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