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 14 years ago '04        #26
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cuz it shouldnt matter and if you test any illiterate person as opposed to someone who is not or who has had some sort of education, do u kno wut the times were even like durin wwi for black ppl? there would be no comparison. and also the world has changed alot since that "army Beta test". How old are these "facts", do u kno? and naw god isn't the racist he jus has a hand in creating them ..


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 14 years ago '04        #27
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 itzmurda said
i think i know why:

FACT #3: The I.Q.'s of American Blacks are from 15 to 20 points, on average, below those of American Whites. (26) (16) (18) (22)
FACT #4: These Black\White differences have been demonstrated repeatedly by every test ever conducted by every branch of the U.S. Military, every state, county, and local school board, the U.S. Dept. of Education, etc. The same ratio of difference has held true over a 40 year period. (18) (26) (24)

FACT #5: With an average I.Q. of 85, only 16% of Blacks score over 100, while half the White population does. The Black overlap of White median I.Q.'s ranges from 10 to 25 percent-- equality would require 50 percent. (31) (27) (16)


FACT #6: Blacks are 6 times as likely to have I.Q.'s of 50 to 70 which put them in the slow learner (retarded) category, while Whites are ten times more likely to score 130 or over. (15) (16) (18) (23)

FACT # 7: The U.S. government's PACE examination, given to 100,000 university graduates who are prospective professional or administrative civil-service employees each year, is passed with a score of 70 or above by 58% of the whites who take it but by only 12% of the Blacks. Among top scorers the difference between Black and White performance is even more striking: 16% of the white applicants make scores of 90 or above, while only one-fifth of one percent of a Black applicants score as high as 90--a White/Black success ration of 80/1. (27)

FACT #8: Differences between Black and White children increase with chronological age, the gap in performance being largest at the high school and college levels. (31) (26)

FACT #9: White/Black I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Black does better but so does the White. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, a.ssociate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes. (18)

FACT #10: In 1915, Dr. G.W. Ferfuson took 1000 school children in Virginia, divided them into 5 racial categories, and tested them for mental aptitude. On average. full-blooded Blacks scored 69.2% as high as Whites. Three-quarter Blacks scored 73.0% as high as Whites. One-half Negroes scored 81.2% as high as Whites. One-quarter Blacks scored 91.8% as high as Whites. All of these Blacks lived as and considered themselves "Negroes." Their environments and "advantages" or disadvantages were exactly the same. (14) Also see (26) pg 452.

FACT #11: Results of the Army Beta test given by the U.S. Army to over 386,000 illiterate soldiers in WWI showed Negro draftees to be "inferior to the Whites on all types of tests used in the Army." Additionally, tests were conducted upon pure Blacks, Mulattoes, and Quadroons. It was found that "the lighter groups made better scores." (14)

FACT #12: Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart in radically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3 to 1. (41)

FACT #13: Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds, in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

FACT #14: Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15) (42) (3)

FACT # 15: American Indians, who often live in conditions far worse than American Blacks during their entire lives, still consistently outscore them on I.Q. tests. (3) (27)

FACT #16: The offspring of interracial marriages tend to have lower I.Q.s than the white parent. (11) (26)



 14 years ago '04        #28
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 itzmurda said
i think i know why:

FACT #3: The I.Q.'s of American Blacks are from 15 to 20 points, on average, below those of American Whites. (26) (16) (18) (22)
FACT #4: These Black\White differences have been demonstrated repeatedly by every test ever conducted by every branch of the U.S. Military, every state, county, and local school board, the U.S. Dept. of Education, etc. The same ratio of difference has held true over a 40 year period. (18) (26) (24)

FACT #5: With an average I.Q. of 85, only 16% of Blacks score over 100, while half the White population does. The Black overlap of White median I.Q.'s ranges from 10 to 25 percent-- equality would require 50 percent. (31) (27) (16)


FACT #6: Blacks are 6 times as likely to have I.Q.'s of 50 to 70 which put them in the slow learner (retarded) category, while Whites are ten times more likely to score 130 or over. (15) (16) (18) (23)

FACT # 7: The U.S. government's PACE examination, given to 100,000 university graduates who are prospective professional or administrative civil-service employees each year, is passed with a score of 70 or above by 58% of the whites who take it but by only 12% of the Blacks. Among top scorers the difference between Black and White performance is even more striking: 16% of the white applicants make scores of 90 or above, while only one-fifth of one percent of a Black applicants score as high as 90--a White/Black success ration of 80/1. (27)

FACT #8: Differences between Black and White children increase with chronological age, the gap in performance being largest at the high school and college levels. (31) (26)

FACT #9: White/Black I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Black does better but so does the White. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, a.ssociate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes. (18)

FACT #10: In 1915, Dr. G.W. Ferfuson took 1000 school children in Virginia, divided them into 5 racial categories, and tested them for mental aptitude. On average. full-blooded Blacks scored 69.2% as high as Whites. Three-quarter Blacks scored 73.0% as high as Whites. One-half Negroes scored 81.2% as high as Whites. One-quarter Blacks scored 91.8% as high as Whites. All of these Blacks lived as and considered themselves "Negroes." Their environments and "advantages" or disadvantages were exactly the same. (14) Also see (26) pg 452.

FACT #11: Results of the Army Beta test given by the U.S. Army to over 386,000 illiterate soldiers in WWI showed Negro draftees to be "inferior to the Whites on all types of tests used in the Army." Additionally, tests were conducted upon pure Blacks, Mulattoes, and Quadroons. It was found that "the lighter groups made better scores." (14)

FACT #12: Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart in radically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3 to 1. (41)

FACT #13: Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds, in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

FACT #14: Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15) (42) (3)

FACT # 15: American Indians, who often live in conditions far worse than American Blacks during their entire lives, still consistently outscore them on I.Q. tests. (3) (27)

FACT #16: The offspring of interracial marriages tend to have lower I.Q.s than the white parent. (11) (26)

ONLY A WHITE DUDE WOULD TAKE HIS TIME TO WRITE ALL DIS AND BE DOWN WIT MURDA INK GET DA fu*k OUTTA HERE

 06-17-2005, 02:13 PM         #29
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 06-17-2005, 02:14 PM         #30
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FACT #9: White/Black I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Black does better but so does the White. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, a.ssociate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes. (18)

FACT #95: Dr. William Shockley, Nobel prize winner for his work in the invention of the transistor and renowned geneticist as Stanford University, said, "The major cause for American Negroes' hereditary is origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment."



and if you are so insistant on saying whites and blacks are the same intellectually, then explain the first two facts (which i didnt want to post)

FACT #1: The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles. It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. (37) (39)

FACT #2: Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel. (Note: This is in reference to the pure-blooded Negro.) He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.) His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable. (21) (39)

i mean im all for black people being proud of being black. but to be proud over lies and half truths is rediculous. there are plenty TRUE things black people can be proud of. i bet you think blacks invented peanut butter and the stoplight too (you would be false).

other facts you may be interested in:

FACT #26: The dark color of the Negro is due to melanin pigment which is spread through every layer of the skin and is found even in the muscles and brain. (9) (27)

FACT #100: The American taxpayers have spent over $2.5 TRILLION trying to upgrade Blacks since the l960's. (6)

FACT #98: In 1988 there were 9,406 cases of Black-on-White r*pe and fewer than 10 cases of White on Black r*pe in the U.S. (32)

FACT #33: Though only 12% of the U.S. population, Blacks commit more than half of all r*pes and robberies and 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32) (27) (6)

FACT #82-84: Almost all Blacks who have been leaders in fields other than athletics or music have had some White ancestry: Fred!ck Douglas, W.E.B. Dubois, Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver, Alex Hailey, Thurgood Marshall, Bryant Gumbell, Colin Powell, Carl Rowan, Ed Bradley, Doug Wilder, etc. According to Dr. E.B. Reuter, ". . . Of successful and best known men that the Negro race has produced, at least thirteen- fourteenths are men of mixed blood. (27) (21)

FACT #73-75: Iceland, the only all-White nation in the world, has the world's highest literacy rate. 100%. It is an island of cooled volcanic magma, located Just south of the Arctic Circle. It has no coal, no fuel, no timber, no mineral wealth or natural resources, and no navigable rivers. 75% of the interior is uninhabitable and only about 1% of the land is arable. It is the youngest nation in Europe and one of the most isolated countries in the world. Nonetheless, Iceland is #2 in the world in life expectancy and has one of the world's highest standards of living, in terms of per capita income. It has tremendous medical facilities and a thriving publishing business. Virtually every family has a telephone. Upon graduation from high school, each Icelandic student has learned five languages. (33)

FACT #53: The District of Columbia, which is approximately 70% Black, leads the U.S. in many areas:

The nations highest crime rates
Strictest gun control
Highest incarceration rates
Highest birthrate
Highest death rate
Highest rate of federal a.ssistance per capita
Highest number of welfare recipients per capita
Highest rate of illegitimacy
Highest high school dropout rate even though its teachers are the highest paid in the U.S.
Highest rate of ghonnorrhea and syphilis
Highest incidence of AIDS (33) (32)


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 14 years ago '04        #31
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 The New Whitey said
oh sh*t sorry dude, that wasn't directed at you...it was just directed at everything that turns into a racial issue.

The reason why everything turns into a racial situation is because things like this keeps happening. What do you expect moderate black people to do when they find statistics like this...just act like it doesn't exist. I'm not against white people or anything. But that doesn't mean you should turn a deaf ear to things people with influence can do.

 14 years ago '04        #32
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 itzmurda said
hahaha

nah but those are facts. its not racist its reality. also on the same page it says

FACT #28: Blacks have arms which are longer, relative to body height, than those of Whites. This feature, together with their much thicker cranial bones, gives Black athletes an advantage over Whites in boxing. The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of Negroes' lower limbs have given them considerable success as sprinters, but have left them relative undistinguished as distance runners. (39) (27)

bottom line is whites are better than blacks in some areas and blacks are better than whites in some areas. in the case of this topic, maybe those white ex cons were more qualified (or smarter) than the blacks with no criminal records. nobody gets mad that basketball teams are 98% black so dont get mad that whites get called back for corporate jobs more. all men(races) are not created equal. all men are created different.

lol how many basketball players come from Africa, or how many times does an African soccer team or something wins, if we are genetically superior to whites athletically. The reason why american blacks are superior athletically is because we were bred to be strong, fast, and athletic. it made for more production in the cotton fields. Every human's dna is 99.9% similar to everyone elses. Most of the physical traits like skin color, and nose size comes from our environment.

 06-17-2005, 02:40 PM         #33
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lol how many basketball players come from Africa, or how many times does an African soccer team or something wins, if we are genetically superior to whites athletically. The reason why american blacks are superior athletically is because we were bred to be strong, fast, and athletic. it made for more production in the cotton fields. Every human's dna is 99.9% similar to everyone elses. Most of the physical traits like skin color, and nose size comes from our environment.
it was never said that blacks were "genetically superior to whites athletically". the fact stated that blacks have advantages in BOXING and RUNNING because of genetics. i dont think blacks are athletically superior at all. blacks dominate some sports but whites dominate others.

 14 years ago '04        #34
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 itzmurda said
hahaha well boxden's village idiot, please explain why those facts dont mean sh*t. you would not agree that the most qualified person for the job should be able to get it regardless of race?

so you mean to tell me that there is no employer that has seen the same "facts" that you have, will have a preconceived notion about a black person's mental capacity. Because of that type of mentality and propaganda we automatically start off on the short end of the stick when applying to the same job with a white person.


p.s. and the same white people get mad when a black person is given a couple of points for being black when he's applying for college. I say get rid of both


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 14 years ago '04        #35
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 itzmurda said
it was never said that blacks were "genetically superior to whites athletically". the fact stated that blacks have advantages in BOXING and RUNNING because of genetics. i dont think blacks are athletically superior at all. blacks dominate some sports but whites dominate others.

I'm not questioning your credibility but where do you get these facts from?

 06-17-2005, 02:50 PM         #36
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p.s. and the same white people get mad when a black person is given a couple of points for being black when he's applying for college. I say get rid of both
this i agree with. nobody should get special treatment because of the color of thier skin. if a black person and a white person both apply for a job the most qualified should get hired.

 htown said
I'm not questioning your credibility but where do you get these facts from?
sources

1. African Business Magazine, Dec. '91
2. American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 92, pg 822+
3. American Renaissance, Dec. '90, Box 2504, Menlo Park, CA 94026
4. American Sociological Review, Vol 45, pg. 859
5. Basham, A.L., The Wonder That Was India, Grove Press, New York, NY 1954
6. Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5. 1993
7. "But What about Africa?" Harper's, May '90
8. "The Christian Heritage of South Africa Under Attack!", Peter Hammond, Herald the Coming, Dec. '92.
9. ****, Carleton S. The Origin of Races, 1962, Alfred A. Knopf
10. f*gan, Myron C. How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized - Then Negroized, Sons of Liberty Books.
11. Fields, Dr. Ed, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, PO Box 1211, Marietta, GA 30061
12. Howells, William. Mankind So Far, Doubleday, Garden City, NY 1945.
13. Harris, Marvin, 1981. Why Nothing Works. Simon & Schuster, New York, NY
14. Jacob, A. White Man, Think Again! 1965, publ. by author.
15. Jensen, Arthur R. Bias in Mental Testing, The Free Press, New York 1980
16. Jensen, Arthur R. Straight Talk About Mental Tests, the Free Press. (Macmillan) New York, 1981
17. McCall's, May '92, pg 76
18. McGurk, Frank, "A Scientist's Report on Race Differences." U.S. News and World Report, Sept. 21, 1956. Washington, D.C.
19. Pearson, Roger, Eugenics and Race, 1966, Noontide Press
20. Pearson, Roger. Race, Intelligence, and Bias in Academe, Scott-Townsend Publishers, N.W. Washington, D.C.
21. Pendell, Elmer, s3x Versus Civilization, Noontide Press.
22. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reason, 1961, Howard Allen Press, Cape Canaveral, FL
23. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reality, a Search for Solutions, 1967, Howard Allen, Box 76, Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
24. Putnam, Carleton. A Study in Racial Realities, an address at the University of California at Davis, Dec. 17, 1964
25. Scott, Ralph. Education and Ethnicity: The U.S. Experiment in School Integration, Scott-Townsend. Washington, D.C. 1989
26. Shuey, Audrey H., The Testing of Negro Intelligence, Social Science Press, New York, 1966
27. Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535, Washington, D. C. 20007
28. Social Forces, Vol. 69, pg.1+, Sept. '90
29. "South Africa: Time to Choose Sides" Soldier of Fortune, Dec. '89.
30. Snyderman, Mark, and Rothman, Stanely. The IQ Controversy, the Media and Public Policy. Transaction Publishers, New Brunswick, NJ 1990.
31. Stell v Savannah-Chattham County Board of Education, U.S. District Court, Southern Georgia, May 13, 1963.
32. Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
33. World Almanacs, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92
34. United Nations World Census, 1990
35. Van Loon, Henrick, 1940, Van Loon's Geography, Garden City Publ.
36. The Voice, Feb. 27, 1990.
37. Waddell, L. A. The Makers of Civilization, 1929, Angriff Press, Hollywood, CA
38. Weisman, Charles A. America: Free, White and Christian, 1989, SFA, Box 766-c, LaPorte, CO 80535
39. Weisman, Charles A. The Origins of Race and Civilization, 1990, SFA
40. Weyl, Nathaniel. The Geography of American Achievement, Scott-Townsend, Washington, D.C. 1989.
41. Martin Luther King (Man Behind the Myth) by Des Griffin.


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 14 years ago '04        #37
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 itzmurda said
this i agree with. nobody should get special treatment because of the color of thier skin. if a black person and a white person both apply for a job the most qualified should get hired.



sources

1. African Business Magazine, Dec. '91
2. American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 92, pg 822+
3. American Renaissance, Dec. '90, Box 2504, Menlo Park, CA 94026
4. American Sociological Review, Vol 45, pg. 859
5. Basham, A.L., The Wonder That Was India, Grove Press, New York, NY 1954
6. Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5. 1993
7. "But What about Africa?" Harper's, May '90
8. "The Christian Heritage of South Africa Under Attack!", Peter Hammond, Herald the Coming, Dec. '92.
9. ****, Carleton S. The Origin of Races, 1962, Alfred A. Knopf
10. f*gan, Myron C. How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized - Then Negroized, Sons of Liberty Books.
11. Fields, Dr. Ed, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, PO Box 1211, Marietta, GA 30061
12. Howells, William. Mankind So Far, Doubleday, Garden City, NY 1945.
13. Harris, Marvin, 1981. Why Nothing Works. Simon & Schuster, New York, NY
14. Jacob, A. White Man, Think Again! 1965, publ. by author.
15. Jensen, Arthur R. Bias in Mental Testing, The Free Press, New York 1980
16. Jensen, Arthur R. Straight Talk About Mental Tests, the Free Press. (Macmillan) New York, 1981
17. McCall's, May '92, pg 76
18. McGurk, Frank, "A Scientist's Report on Race Differences." U.S. News and World Report, Sept. 21, 1956. Washington, D.C.
19. Pearson, Roger, Eugenics and Race, 1966, Noontide Press
20. Pearson, Roger. Race, Intelligence, and Bias in Academe, Scott-Townsend Publishers, N.W. Washington, D.C.
21. Pendell, Elmer, s3x Versus Civilization, Noontide Press.
22. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reason, 1961, Howard Allen Press, Cape Canaveral, FL
23. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reality, a Search for Solutions, 1967, Howard Allen, Box 76, Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
24. Putnam, Carleton. A Study in Racial Realities, an address at the University of California at Davis, Dec. 17, 1964
25. Scott, Ralph. Education and Ethnicity: The U.S. Experiment in School Integration, Scott-Townsend. Washington, D.C. 1989
26. Shuey, Audrey H., The Testing of Negro Intelligence, Social Science Press, New York, 1966
27. Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535, Washington, D. C. 20007
28. Social Forces, Vol. 69, pg.1+, Sept. '90
29. "South Africa: Time to Choose Sides" Soldier of Fortune, Dec. '89.
30. Snyderman, Mark, and Rothman, Stanely. The IQ Controversy, the Media and Public Policy. Transaction Publishers, New Brunswick, NJ 1990.
31. Stell v Savannah-Chattham County Board of Education, U.S. District Court, Southern Georgia, May 13, 1963.
32. Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
33. World Almanacs, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92
34. United Nations World Census, 1990
35. Van Loon, Henrick, 1940, Van Loon's Geography, Garden City Publ.
36. The Voice, Feb. 27, 1990.
37. Waddell, L. A. The Makers of Civilization, 1929, Angriff Press, Hollywood, CA
38. Weisman, Charles A. America: Free, White and Christian, 1989, SFA, Box 766-c, LaPorte, CO 80535
39. Weisman, Charles A. The Origins of Race and Civilization, 1990, SFA
40. Weyl, Nathaniel. The Geography of American Achievement, Scott-Townsend, Washington, D.C. 1989.
41. Martin Luther King (Man Behind the Myth) by Des Griffin.
lol very ecletic mix, so which facts came from which books. I don't think I would get an objective, unbiased study from..."Weisman, Charles A. America: Free, White and Christian"

 06-17-2005, 03:07 PM         #38
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lol very ecletic mix, so which facts came from which books. I don't think I would get an objective, unbiased study from..."Weisman, Charles A. America: Free, White and Christian"
at the end of each fact there is a number in parenthesis. that is the source number(s). but the sources listed are not ALL of the sources. however you can back up any fact listed without any of these sources by using sources not listed. all of these are proven facts that cant be disputed.

the source you quoted was in regards to

FACT #48: The Declaration of Independence, which contains the oft-repeated phrase ". . . all men are created equal . . ." was written by Thomas Jefferson, who owned about 200 slaves at the time and never set any of them free, including the mulattoes and quadroons. Jefferson's words certainly had no reference to Negroes, who at that time had no place in American society except as property. (27) (38) (31)

which i didnt even post. while it is a fact of the time, "negroes had no place except as property" is not something i agree with.


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[QUOTE=itzmurda]at the end of each fact there is a number in parenthesis. that is the source number(s). but the sources listed are not ALL of the sources. however you can back up any fact listed without any of these sources by using sources not listed. all of these are proven facts that cant be disputed.




lol everything can be disputed (earth is flat was a "fact"), because I've heard "facts" that are conflicting with the "facts" that you have produced. so obviously someone disputed something.


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 06-17-2005, 03:12 PM         #40
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There are sooooooooooo many points I could make man.. sooo many.. and i'm bursting to do so, but alas, it would take far too long.

'Itzmurda', prepare yourself for a barage shortly....

 06-17-2005, 03:20 PM         #41
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 htown said
lol everything can be disputed (earth is flat was a "fact"), because I've heard "facts" that are conflicting with the "facts" that you have produced. so obviously someone disputed something.
yes any fact can be disputed, but it can never be proven wrong. none of the facts contridict. if you believe so, please attempt to prove it.

the earth being flat was NEVER a fact. people(whites) believed this until they were able to prove it wrong. then the shape of the earth went from an opinion to being a fact.

 DJT said
There are sooooooooooo many points I could make man.. sooo many.. and i'm bursting to do so, but alas, it would take far too long.

'Itzmurda', prepare yourself for a barage shortly....
im ready, just dont come at me with no bullsh*t, opinions, or any of that and we can have a good discussion. i dont wanna hear about how god is black, how modern day blacks are related to the ancient egyptians, how blacks discovered america, or any other similar lies. come at me with facts.

 06-17-2005, 03:28 PM         #42
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 itzmurda said
HAHA @ this dumb fu*k calling studies from the 90's "old studies". you really are an idiot. the fu*k you think has changed in the past 10 years? if you want something more tp to date then check this article from 2003: [WEBSITE LINK] or just do a google search

It's a shame to see fools like this actually buy into the misguided facts they read.

I won't sit here and break down every inaccurate facts you've posted. I will just say this in general.

As a white male, having been to various areas on the east coast, I can say without any doubt... YOU CAN NOT TAKE ANY TYPE OF STUDY THAT WILL GIVE ACCURATE FACTS ON ANY BLACK\WHITE ISSUES.

If you choose to believe so, you should probably take a drive to various ghettos of NY, Philly, or DC to name a few.

You can't take a study of people in white suburbia and then do a study of blacks in the ghetto. You can't take blacks from the ghetto and put them in white suburban schools and think that in a course of study something will change.

Growing up in poor environments where schools are not funded and maintained is the direct result of certain people having lower IQ's. If you take a whites and have them born and raised in the same community and the same school system they will indeed have the same results. Lower IQ's and same mentality on life.

That is REALITY! Not your bogus studies on IQ testing. People are People. You are not better because of your skin pigmentation. You are better because a)you've been put in an environment that has allowed you to be successful b)you've had people in your life that supported you and encouraged you c)YOU were determined to be successful.

This is cut and dry. Blacks are successful as are Whites in the same areas across the board. The ONLY reason you see less diversity in areas is simply because of STEREOTYPES.

Just like the ones you are posting. These are not facts, These are studies that have given misguided information.

All people are not created equal. Whites have kept it this way since they allowed slavery to begin in the US.

I do understand the difficulties of stereotypes. As an ex felon I now am a statistic in the battle to wipe these stereotypes and be allowed to live my life.

White people will be forced to accept soon enough that they are not better because of being white. With the largely increasing race mixing and now the spanish population growing. We will soon have so much diversity that Whites will no longer be the majority. I hope I live to see the day that all these whites that held the high hopes of living superior come to an end.

That will be the day that those of us who hold no ignorance towards a man based on his skin color can smile.

I feel sorry for those of you that are so simple minded and blinded by the truth, one day you will hopefully reach that IQ level your White idols have brainwashed you with. Because right now your IQ is that of those you fear most... A rising population of those with no race barrior.


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 itzmurda said
yes any fact can be disputed, but it can never be proven wrong. none of the facts contridict. if you believe so, please attempt to prove it.

the earth being flat was NEVER a fact. people(whites) believed this until they were able to prove it wrong. then the shape of the earth went from an opinion to being a fact.



im ready, just dont come at me with no bullsh*t, opinions, or any of that and we can have a good discussion. i dont wanna hear about how god is black, how modern day blacks are related to the ancient egyptians, how blacks discovered america, or any other similar lies. come at me with facts.

I don't see how some people are so sure that God or Jesus wasn't black, I don't think they were, but the truth is I don't know.

 06-17-2005, 03:36 PM         #44
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hahaha well boxden's village idiot, please explain why those facts dont mean sh*t. you would not agree that the most qualified person for the job should be able to get it regardless of race?
not in the world we live in, it's comes to down to preference

 06-17-2005, 03:49 PM         #45
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 htown said
I don't see how some people are so sure that God or Jesus wasn't black, I don't think they were, but the truth is I don't know.
thats what i was saying, nobody knows, so dont try to come at me like that (just giving an example to dude)

 Tragedy said
It's a shame to see fools like this actually buy into the misguided facts they read.

I won't sit here and break down every inaccurate facts you've posted. I will just say this in general.

As a white male, having been to various areas on the east coast, I can say without any doubt... YOU CAN NOT TAKE ANY TYPE OF STUDY THAT WILL GIVE ACCURATE FACTS ON ANY BLACK\WHITE ISSUES.

If you choose to believe so, you should probably take a drive to various ghettos of NY, Philly, or DC to name a few.

You can't take a study of people in white suburbia and then do a study of blacks in the ghetto. You can't take blacks from the ghetto and put them in white suburban schools and think that in a course of study something will change.

Growing up in poor environments where schools are not funded and maintained is the direct result of certain people having lower IQ's. If you take a whites and have them born and raised in the same community and the same school system they will indeed have the same results. Lower IQ's and same mentality on life.

That is REALITY! Not your bogus studies on IQ testing. People are People. You are not better because of your skin pigmentation. You are better because a)you've been put in an environment that has allowed you to be successful b)you've had people in your life that supported you and encouraged you c)YOU were determined to be successful.

This is cut and dry. Blacks are successful as are Whites in the same areas across the board. The ONLY reason you see less diversity in areas is simply because of STEREOTYPES.

Just like the ones you are posting. These are not facts, These are studies that have given misguided information.

All people are not created equal. Whites have kept it this way since they allowed slavery to begin in the US.

I do understand the difficulties of stereotypes. As an ex felon I now am a statistic in the battle to wipe these stereotypes and be allowed to live my life.

White people will be forced to accept soon enough that they are not better because of being white. With the largely increasing race mixing and now the spanish population growing. We will soon have so much diversity that Whites will no longer be the majority. I hope I live to see the day that all these whites that held the high hopes of living superior come to an end.

That will be the day that those of us who hold no ignorance towards a man based on his skin color can smile.

I feel sorry for those of you that are so simple minded and blinded by the truth, one day you will hopefully reach that IQ level your White idols have brainwashed you with. Because right now your IQ is that of those you fear most... A rising population of those with no race barrior.
NOTHING IS MISGUDED. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MISGUIDED. you read only what you want to read and ignore everything else. nobody does studies on white from the suburbs vs. blacks from the ghettos. THIS DOESNT HAPPEN. you are mistaken.

FACT #13: Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds, in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

FACT #12: Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart in radically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3 to 1. (41)

what the hell are you talking about? environment is not an issue. heredity and race is. studies show that poor white kids score higher/just as high as rich black kids.

and whites are not a majority. whites are 9% of the worlds population (AKA THE WORLDS MINORITY). in the uk whites will be a minority by the year 2100. right now in the united states mexicans are 1 out of every 7 people. we are not a majority anywhere.

im not saying whites are better than anybody, im just saying whites created modern civilization, so maybe white ex cons are just as qualified as blacks with no records.

im not saying whites are smarter than everybody. jewish people are way more crafty and are more able to achieve worldly success than white people could ever dream of. im just stating FACTS as you are not. if you really are a white male, you need to wake the fu*k up.


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 06-17-2005, 03:51 PM         #46
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Your supposed "facts" have no bearing, and illustrate the extent individuals will go to perpetuate this slander of intellectual inferiority among blacks.

 06-17-2005, 03:52 PM         #47
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Ok... 'Itzmurda' firstly, with reference to "fact's" 3,4,5,6,7,9,10,13,14,15,16....

I'd just like to ask you what your definition of an IQ test is? I studied Psychology briefly, so i'd just like to hear your comments.

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One more thing, to dispute the "these studies were done in the 90's doesn't matter"

It absolutely DOES.

In the last 5 years studies in my community, which consists of 3rd largest city in PA and 2 smaller cities creating one big Community, has shown these results:

1. Spanish/Black population has grown 45%
2. Spanish families are the largest group of new home owners.
3. More minority owned business's then ever.

This was a study done only for the 3 cities that make up the area that i live. This obviously will vary across the nation. But when you have the population of minority groups growing. You will see a change in the results of studies done as far as any minority groups and its success rate.

But, even with that said. Due to the ignorance in Corporate America, whites will still be the majority. Not because they are smarter or more successful. But because the ball is still in their court. As it has been for many years.

With new laws being passed and new minority owned business's opening up, all that will change in the very near future.

 06-17-2005, 03:55 PM         #49
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 C-Easy said
Your supposed "facts" have no bearing, and illustrate the extent individuals will go to perpetuate this slander of intellectual inferiority among blacks.
my FACTS have much bearing and there is no slander. a slander is a lie. facts i have posted have been proven.


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 06-17-2005, 04:04 PM         #50
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 DJT said
Ok... 'Itzmurda' firstly, with reference to "fact's" 3,4,5,6,7,9,10,13,14,15,16....

I'd just like to ask you what your definition of an IQ test is? I studied Psychology briefly, so i'd just like to hear your comments.
an iq test is a psychometric test of intelligence. but like i posted:

FACT #14: Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15) (42) (3)

no matter who makes the test and what the test consists of, the outcome always remains the same. like stated this has held true for the past 40 years. dude tried to say these were old studies like something that held true decade after decade was going to change all of a sudden in the past ten years. studies TODAY show the same thing.

 Tragedy said
One more thing, to dispute the "these studies were done in the 90's doesn't matter"

It absolutely DOES.

In the last 5 years studies in my community, which consists of 3rd largest city in PA and 2 smaller cities creating one big Community, has shown these results:

1. Spanish/Black population has grown 45%
2. Spanish families are the largest group of new home owners.
3. More minority owned business's then ever.

This was a study done only for the 3 cities that make up the area that i live. This obviously will vary across the nation. But when you have the population of minority groups growing. You will see a change in the results of studies done as far as any minority groups and its success rate.

But, even with that said. Due to the ignorance in Corporate America, whites will still be the majority. Not because they are smarter or more successful. But because the ball is still in their court. As it has been for many years.

With new laws being passed and new minority owned business's opening up, all that will change in the very near future.
this is NOT regarding success rate this is regarding intelligence. affirmative action can show that you can be less qualified and still get hired.

as far as the ignorance in "corporate america", corporate america is not run by white people. that belongs to the jewish people. along with hollywood, the media, etc

these are FACTS.

"Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.

Most of the larger independent newspapers are owned by Jewish interests as well. An example is media mogul is Samuel I. "Si" Newhouse, who owns two dozen daily newspapers from Staten Island to Oregon, plus the Sunday supplement Parade; the Conde Nast collection of magazines, including Vogue, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Allure, GQ, and Self; the publishing firms of Random House, Knopf, Crown, and Ballantine, among other imprints; and cable franchises with over one million subscribers."
that just goes to show you, whites arent doing as good as people seem to think they are. when i hear kanye say "and a white man gets paid of all that" im thinking "does he know that jewish people arent white".


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