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kevin boogz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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Mos Def explains why Kanye won against 50 cent
 

 
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edit apparently they took it down.


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 1 month ago '22        #2
Bald GOD  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Of course the God did


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 1 month ago '18        #3
Pastor Ra  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x36
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Damn, they dug deep on the backpack history
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 1 month ago '05        #4
Micheal C. Will  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Chappelle in the cut

But yeah, Kanye's Graduation was just the better album, Curtis had a few good records but Graduation was on another level.
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 1 month ago '22        #5
BreakkerSzn  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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Wasn’t there supposed to be rap battle with Mos Talib Nas and Jay Electronica vs Wayne Jay Kanye and TI

I remember Mos Def wanted to set a rap battle up: his team vs Jays team


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 1 month ago '06        #6
JCash 
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 BreakkerSzn said
Wasn’t there supposed to be rap battle with Mos Talib Nas and Jay Electronica vs Wayne Jay Kanye and TI

I remember Mos Def wanted to set a rap battle up: his team vs Jays team
Change Talib for Tariq Trotter and we gooch
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 1 month ago '15        #7
Tobinmont  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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I gotta watch this in full. Nore is right though about when the separation happened. It wasn’t just the roots though.
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 1 month ago '13        #8
The Originator 
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Def gonna wanna this.

Mos Def one of the best to ever do it
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 1 month ago '13        #9
Solesearcher 
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 Micheal C. Will said
Chappelle in the cut

But yeah, Kanye's Graduation was just the better album, Curtis had a few good records but Graduation was on another level.
Literally dropped my first week of freshman year in HS and you can tell Graduation was more in line on what our growing generation wanted at the time

Much more fresh style & sounds won it for Ye. Everyday somebody would bumping a new track for Graduation in our hallway compared to I Get Money being the hottest track from Curtis but falling out of favor by Oct/Dec
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 1 month ago '14        #10
2 cent 
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Crazy how much rap music has changed over time. So much to the point I'm not even shocked no more. I agree with nos def, this was the moment rap changed. It was like the 9/11 of rap music. Nothing was the same after that. Rappers slowly started getting more feminine and now it seems like the rules are all reversed. The things that would end your career back then will make your career now.
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 1 month ago '17        #11
SupremeBeing5  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Must watch with Mos
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 1 month ago '15        #12
Hellmatic 
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 Micheal C. Will said
Chappelle in the cut

But yeah, Kanye's Graduation was just the better album, Curtis had a few good records but Graduation was on another level.
Before all the tracks got released I knew ye had the better album. Kanye singles were all fire, 50 had I get money/remix which was fire, straight to the bank was ight, ayo technology was ight. Follow my lead and amusement park were straight trash, most people only fu*ked with straight to the bank. I'll still k*ll was alright too for what it was, but basically 50s cuts Before the album came out were not on the level of the sh*t Kanye was releasing. The can't tell me nothing/remix, homecoming, good life, good morning, stronger were all fire. And Kanye had better marketing with the shutter shades, you can just tell this wasn't a good comeback for 50 (who didn't even have a good comeback with the massacre. So the chinks in the armor been showing)

Edit:kanye also had the flashing lights record. He was k*lling 50 with the singles


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 1 month ago '19        #13
WarriorKing 
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 Pastor Ra said
Damn, they dug deep on the backpack history
Definitely learned some sh*t

 1 month ago '07        #14
castro  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x24
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mos def doesn't realize it was all a publicity stunt
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 1 month ago '20        #15
CorleoneShakur  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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50 gave banks, yayo & game hit records he could’ve saved for himself. Kanye always had 100 Writers and producers bringing him their best work. That’s why graduation was better.

50 was beefing with Jimmy iOvine and def jam was fully behind Kanye & he still barely outsold him.

Kanye didn’t beat 50 imo, the industry did
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 1 month ago '16        #16
Boogersugar  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x18
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 CorleoneShakur said
50 gave banks, yayo & game hit records he could’ve saved for himself. Kanye always had 100 Writers and producers bringing him their best work. That’s why graduation was better.

50 was beefing with Jimmy iOvine and def jam was fully behind Kanye & he still barely outsold him.

Kanye didn’t beat 50 imo, the industry did
Looool Fif stans wild as hell
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 1 month ago '20        #17
CorleoneShakur  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Boogersugar said
Looool Fif stans wild as hell
I was a bigger fan of Kanye at the time and was rooting for Kanye. I’m not going to support an industry manufactured narrative just to support my bias though.
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 1 month ago '05        #18
TonyCartagena 
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FifTea Stans Will Never Admit He Lost
I Remember Curtis Released Amusement Park/Straight To Bank As Singles And Them sh*ts Flopped
You Knew It Was Over Then
Clayton Fifsby Been Feeding Them sh*tty Albums Since And They Been Calling Them Classics Like....



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 1 month ago '04        #19
Mike T  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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anybody that was 25 & under or just Tapped into what was going on
Could see that 50 was going to get embarrassed, Ye came through & completely shifted the culture & rap barriers.
The sound, style, every thing about the culture evolved & 50 didn't.
50 is one of my n*ggas, he never has & never will compete with Ye musically .
They exist & are great at 2 diff styles of rap.
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 1 month ago '17        #20
0LuRkEr0 
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50's album just wasn't that good
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 1 month ago '14        #21
OfficialJihad 
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 CorleoneShakur said
50 gave banks, yayo & game hit records he could’ve saved for himself. Kanye always had 100 Writers and producers bringing him their best work. That’s why graduation was better.

50 was beefing with Jimmy iOvine and def jam was fully behind Kanye & he still barely outsold him.

Kanye didn’t beat 50 imo, the industry did
50 was overexposed & burnt out, at the time. In addition to what you mentioned, he was ghostwriting songs & hooks for Mobb Deep, Scrappy, LL Cool J & Freeway’s albums. On top of that, he kept releasing new mixtape material & kept beefing with artists.

Whereas, Kanye was the underdog, at the time & was on his best behavior. Meanwhile, 50 kept ostracizing himself even further by bullying Ye during the promotional tour & ultimately swayed the audience in Kanye’s direction.
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 1 month ago '15        #22
Shifty  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 CorleoneShakur said
50 gave banks, yayo & game hit records he could’ve saved for himself. Kanye always had 100 Writers and producers bringing him their best work. That’s why graduation was better.

50 was beefing with Jimmy iOvine and def jam was fully behind Kanye & he still barely outsold him.

Kanye didn’t beat 50 imo, the industry did

50 lost.

 1 month ago '19        #23
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 CorleoneShakur said
I was a bigger fan of Kanye at the time and was rooting for Kanye. I’m not going to support an industry manufactured narrative just to support my bias though.
I don't think 50 was really focused on music as much by the 3rd album like you said he had other people he was trying to push and I feel like he was trying to get more into business as that time after his vitamin water and sh*t. Kanye was more focused cuz he was still coming out from the background. Obviously his first 2 albums were already considered great at that point but he was still determined to be known more. I believe there was real competition but didn't they even admit themselves that they did this just to sell more records
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 1 month ago '22        #24
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Kanye made the better album and I think at the point people were getting a lil tired of 50

Also....promo for both of them


Really not that deep as people make it


Graduation is kanye best album imo

 1 month ago '05        #25
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Ye winning has something to do with the direction rap went in as a result of his victory. Not a good thing IMO.

As for those arguing over who had the better album, I think it was Ye but I was disappointed in both. Curtis and Graduation are the first albums from both artists I didn't fu*k with.


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