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Digital Foundry Tests the Playstation 5's emulation of PS1/2 & PSP Games



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OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Digital Foundry Tests the Playstation 5's emulation of PS1/2 & PSP Games
 

 

Notes copied from Neogaf lol:

- Hosted by John. Using the PS Asia lineup for testing.

- PS1:

- PS1 Emulator is different than PS Classics w/ new features and higher resolution rendering compared to PS Classics version.
- Incorrect frame pacing amplified to the max in some PAL game cut-scenes.
- Inside the game, PAL versions run at 25 FPS (Ape Escape shown). 17% slower than their NTSC counter parts. 60 FPS games run at 50 FPS on Pal.

Note: Sony has put out updates for some of the games to 'improve' performance, but it does not make up for low refresh, it just adds interpolated frames in between frames.

- DF thinks Nintendo's solution for allowing both NTSC and Pal downloads is best.
- Some games which run at 60hz seem to run as you would expect (Tekken 2, Toy Story).

- PS1 emulator runs at 1920x1440p
- Higher resolution exacerbates (highlights more) the texture wobbling issue.
- John is not a fan of PS1 games at high resolution unless perspective correction on textures is applied (like the emulator Duck Station)

- PS1 Filters
- "Default" "Retro Classic" "Modern"
- Main difference between Default and Modern is that Modern increases contrast to make the image darker
- CRT filter is not accurate in John's testing. It also doesn't work with all games.

- PS1 Aspect Ratio
- 1 to 1 and square pixel options don't match the PS1 pixel grid
- In DF testing there was no way to get proper evenly squared pixels on PS5
- Same issue exists on both Pal and NTSC games.
- "None of the scaling options are properly implemented"
- Other options barely touched on, but nothing note worthy.

- The emulator on PS4 and PS5 is identical except for the controller layout.



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- PSP Emulation
- 3D Boosted to 1080p but 2D just gets basic upscaling without any enhancement.
- Pixel scaling modes don't make sense here as PSP never had scanlines or a square rendering mode.



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- PS2 Emulation
- Jak games tested.
- IQ is the same as PS2 classics on PS4
- DF is not clear if any changes were made to PS2 emulator
- Performance is worse on PS5 emulator compared to native PS2. Jak menu tested which runs at half the frame rate.
- PS2 emulator does *NOT* offer the rewind feature that PS1 and PSP has.
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 1 month ago '12        #2
Faythung  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Performance is worse on PS5 emulator compared to native PS2.
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 1 month ago '17        #3
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x23
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Using the PAL versions of games was the dumbest thing they could've done. You know it's bad when a Series S runs PS1 games better than a PS5.

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 1 month ago '22        #4
God Bless 
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Sucks for all you old heads who want to play games from 1996

I didn’t spend $500 to go backwards

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 1 month ago '17        #5
SPdaGOAT  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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 God Bless said
Sucks for all you old heads who want to play games from 1996

I didn’t spend $500 to go backwards

These bozos cried for years just to get this
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 1 month ago '11        #6
gc le phresh 
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This is a waste to be honest especially when you have great emulation on Duckstation to rcps3.

The innovation would be playing those older titles online like Tekken 2 And make it like a virtual arcade.
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 1 month ago '05        #7
Krazie 
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 1 month ago '05        #8
GodzMustBeCrazy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Meh... Don't care anyways.
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 1 month ago '22        #9
God Bless 
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 SPdaGOAT said
These bozos cried for years just to get this
They whine about no new games to play which is a lie to begin with but want to play games with block head characters from the 90’s
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 1 month ago '06        #10
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This sounds about right. PS Now has been trash from day 1. Smart of Sony to roll it into PS+ because suckers will "upgrade" for this crap thinking it's close to Gamepass.
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 1 month ago '20        #11
Chozen  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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If Sony can't get this right y'all owe Square an apology
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 1 month ago '12        #12
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4 OP
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 Chozen said
If Sony can't get this right y'all owe Square an apology
About what? What did Square do?

Cause they have arguably some of the worst PC Ports of console games in the history of gaming over there at Square. Its like 5 or 6 joints they ported over that you couldn't even go to a menu and close out they got like their 8th or 9th patch lol, you had to control alt delete them sh*ts

The original PC Port of...FF7 or FF9 was causing people to get the blue screen of death when trying to save for like the first year it was out

Sony will get it together. It is just the start for them with this program after all. They're behind on doing this, but sh*t they got it in motion now - lets see how they pivot and come with it.


Last edited by OldBusiness; 05-27-2022 at 05:00 PM..
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 1 month ago '05        #13
Krazie 
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 Chozen said
If Sony can't get this right y'all owe Square an apology
An apology for what?

Edit: Ninja'd by O.B.
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 1 month ago '20        #14
Chozen  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 OldBusiness said
About what? What did Square do?

Cause they have arguably some of the worst PC Ports of console games in the history of gaming over there at Square. Its like 5 or 6 joints they ported over that you couldn't even go to a menu and close out they got like their 8th or 9th patch lol, you had to control alt delete them sh*ts

The original PC Port of...FF7 or FF9 was causing people to get the blue screen of death when trying to save for like the first year it was out

Sony will get it together. It is just the start for them with this program after all. They're behind on doing this, but sh*t they got it in motion now - lets see how they pivot and come with it.
The ps4 port of Chrono Cross having a funky frame rate. Sony directly having the same issue. Why would I be talking about some PC sh*t in a Sony/Playstation thread?
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 1 month ago '12        #15
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4 OP
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 Chozen said
The ps4 port of Chrono Cross having a funky frame rate. Sony directly having the same issue. Why would I be talking about some PC sh*t in a Sony/Playstation thread?
Cause if you knew anything about Squares past at bringing their old games forward you'd know thats a 20 year long problem for them, ain't no excusing that sh*t and bringing it up here as a way to excuse what they did is just stupid

Yall dont play games, and that Chrono Cross remaster performs exactly how most knew it would before it dropped cause of that history

Im playing through it right now tho for the nostalgia I had for the OG

But nah, move around lil homie
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 1 month ago '20        #16
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 OldBusiness said
Cause if you knew anything about Squares past at bringing their old games forward you'd know thats a 20 year long problem for them, ain't no excusing that sh*t and bringing it up here as a way to excuse what they did is just stupid

Yall dont play games, and that Chrono Cross remaster performs exactly how most knew it would before it dropped cause of that history

Im playing through it right now tho for the nostalgia of the old one

But nah, move around lil homie
One of the dumbest things that gets said in the BXGS...
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 1 month ago '12        #17
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4 OP
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 Chozen said
One of the dumbest things that gets said in the BXGS...
It’s okay fam, there’s always tomorrow until there isn’t

 1 month ago '04        #18
cuzjuan  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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par for the course, as expected



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