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Xbox had the chance to make Spider-Man, but they passed on the offer from Marvel!
 

 
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What he needed was a publishing partner who hadn't adopted the "crappy licensed games" mentality. He needed a company with an eye for long-term investments, one with a vested interest that would benefit from building a franchise. That partner would need to have a deep pool of talent, commitment to quality, and inexhaustibly deep pockets. There were three companies that fit that description. One of them, Nintendo, mostly developed games based on its own intellectual properties.

Being from console first-party in my past, I pinged both sides, both Xbox and PlayStation, and said, "We don't have any big console deals with anyone right now. What would you like to do?" Microsoft's strategy was to focus on their own IP. They passed.

I sat down with these two execs from PlayStation third-party, Adam Boyes and John Drake, in August 2014, in a conference room in Burbank. I said, "We have a dream that this is possible, that we could beat Arkham and have one game at least and maybe multiple games that could drive adoption of your platform."
—Jay Ong

Here’s Marvel Games on Cancelling the contract with Activisions Spider-Man Games:

Marvel decided to approach Activision about terminating the contract early. As they negotiated the request, Ong explained that Spider-Man needed new talent, a bigger budget, and fresh eyes. We finally negotiated a deal for them to walk away. It was a mutually beneficial deal. When we shook hands on it, they asked, "So what are you going to do with this IP after you get it back?"

I said, "I'm going to find a better home for it."

They replied, "Good luck finding your unicorn."
Insomniac was that unicorn image

What’s worth noting is, this was back in 2014. Months after Phil Spencer took over as Head of Xbox, and 5 years before Sony would Acquire Insomniac. Ironically enough this was also months before sunset overdrive would release on Xbox.
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So Xbox flat out passed to continue making their own ip. Halo/gears/Forza. And Sony outsourced the work, then eventually acquired Insomniac off their work.

One of the worst fumbles of last gen??
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 1 month ago '22        #2
God Bless 
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And the rest is history


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 1 month ago '21        #4
Waddup Doe 
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I mean maybe they didn't see how it could be. This was like 4 years before Insomiac got it, and right as Phil started. I'm sure in hindsight he's not happy. But sometimes you just don't know , and he probably wanted to try and make a good impression since he just started.

I wonder if MS did take the license if it would have come out the way it did or been better or worse.

Ill.be playing part 2 regardless.

 1 month ago '11        #5
Ejoly 
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Hard to believe, sony been making Spiderman games since ps2, and have movie rights
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 1 month ago '05        #6
Chuck_Remixed  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Ejoly said
Hard to believe, sony been making Spiderman games since ps2

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 1 month ago '05        #7
TonyCartagena 
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Thank You Phil For Helping Bring This Greatness To My Ps4 And Ps5


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 1 month ago '09        #8
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Nah bruh...this can't be real


Also this reminded me to cop miles morales...how did I not get it already
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 1 month ago '09        #9
Tiko377  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Wonder who made the decision on the Xbox board they should be fired.
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 1 month ago '16        #10
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 Waddup Doe said
I mean maybe they didn't see how it could be. This was like 4 years before Insomiac got it, and right as Phil started. I'm sure in hindsight he's not happy. But sometimes you just don't know , and he probably wanted to try and make a good impression since he just started.

I wonder if MS did take the license if it would have come out the way it did or been better or worse.

Ill.be playing part 2 regardless.
Spider-Man was first revealed in 2016 summer. So insomniac would have been working on it end of 2014 into 2015.

Sony didn’t give it to first party. They contracted a studio to do it for them. The theory is Microsoft wasn’t feeling the licensing deal and prolly didn’t think super hero’s would translate into a good game. If you read the full write up, a lot of people didn’t think Rocksteadys Arkham games could be out done, so it’s like no one wanted to even try.

Microsoft literally could have asked insomniac the same way Sony did since neither owned them at the time. Microsoft just had its own plans, and marvel wasn’t apart of them

Some boys were calling foul on the Sony exclusivity. Can’t blame Sony for not only marvel approaching Sony, but Microsoft passing on the idea altogether as well.
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 1 month ago '21        #11
Waddup Doe 
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 Novii said
Spider-Man was first revealed in 2016 summer. So insomniac would have been working on it end of 2014 into 2015.

Sony didn’t give it to first party. They contracted a studio to do it for them. The theory is Microsoft wasn’t feeling the licensing deal and prolly didn’t think super hero’s would translate into a good game. If you read the full write up, a lot of people didn’t think Rocksteadys Arkham games could be out done, so it’s like no one wanted to even try.

Microsoft literally could have asked insomniac the same way Sony did since neither owned them at the time. Microsoft just had its own plans, and marvel wasn’t apart of them

Some boys were calling foul on the Sony exclusivity. Can’t blame Sony for not only marvel approaching Sony, but Microsoft passing on the idea altogether as well.
Yeah mS and Phil definitely dropped the ball. But hey you win some you lose some

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 Waddup Doe said
I mean maybe they didn't see how it could be. This was like 4 years before Insomiac got it, and right as Phil started. I'm sure in hindsight he's not happy. But sometimes you just don't know , and he probably wanted to try and make a good impression since he just started.

I wonder if MS did take the license if it would have come out the way it did or been better or worse.

Ill.be playing part 2 regardless.
They were gonna fu*k up no matter what. Uncle Phil let Insomniac go because the leadership at Xbox is out of touch.




They don't see the value in narrative based games and want everything to be GaaS for microtransactions revenue.
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 1 month ago '21        #13
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 justin747 said
They were gonna fu*k up no matter what. Uncle Phil let Insomniac go because the leadership at Xbox is out of touch.




They don't see the value in narrative based games and want everything to be GaaS for microtransactions revenue.
And sunny is following thier lead now so Ls all around

 1 month ago '21        #14
Waddup Doe 
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 justin747 said
They were gonna fu*k up no matter what. Uncle Phil let Insomniac go because the leadership at Xbox is out of touch.




They don't see the value in narrative based games and want everything to be GaaS for microtransactions revenue.
And sony is following thier lead now with Bungie so Ls all around
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 1 month ago '05        #15
Chuck_Remixed  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Everything turned out the way it should. Looks like theirs a force out there looking out for us gamers. We dodged multiple bullets here.
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 1 month ago '14        #16
Swade009  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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The crazy thing is Sony probably got the deal on the cheap just like the movie rights.

 1 month ago '21        #17
Waddup Doe 
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 Chuck_Remixed said
Everything turned out the way it should. Looks like theirs a force out there looking out for us gamers. We dodged multiple bullets here.
I feel thus but also if Ms had hired Insomniac to do it we'd have the same game now just in MS systems.
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 Waddup Doe said
I mean maybe they didn't see how it could be. This was like 4 years before Insomiac got it, and right as Phil started. I'm sure in hindsight he's not happy. But sometimes you just don't know , and he probably wanted to try and make a good impression since he just started.

I wonder if MS did take the license if it would have come out the way it did or been better or worse.

Ill.be playing part 2 regardless.
It's Spiderman....
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justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Waddup Doe said
And sony is following thier lead now with Bungie so Ls all around
Not saying Bungie will be bad or good, but Sony can afford to make a mistake or 2.

Uncle Phil can't be out here letting franchises AND developers walk away so they can focus on Halo/Gears/Forza and buggy Bethesda games.
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 1 month ago '14        #20
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 Tiko377 said
Wonder who made the decision on the Xbox board they should be fired.
Either Phil has no power and/or he didn't demand it...

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Having money doesn’t mean you know how to run a game company. I hate to say it.
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 1 month ago '16        #23
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 5ive04our said



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It’s from a book that was published last year. I made a thread about it a while ago when y’all tried to say Sony was gate keeping Spider-Man.

Turns out Xbox said fu*k Spider-Man

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thank god


imagine the bullsh*t MS would've put out would've been another franchise ruined by Xbox
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 Novii said
It’s from a book that was published last year. I made a thread about it a while ago when y’all tried to say Sony was gate keeping Spider-Man.

Turns out Xbox said fu*k Spider-Man

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