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May 13 - Trump Kept Asking if China Was Shooting Us With a ‘Hurricane Gun’
 

 
Trump Kept Asking if China Was Shooting Us With a ‘Hurricane Gun’

The then-leader of the free world also inquired whether the U.S. could bomb China in retaliation for the alleged hurricane attack

ASAWIN SUEBSAENG AND ADAM RAWNSLEY

Near the beginning of Donald Trump’s time in office, the then-president had a pressing question for his national-security aides and administration officials: Does China have the secret technology — a weapon, even — to create large, man-made hurricanes and then launch them at the United States? And if so, would this constitute an act of war by a foreign power, and could the U.S. retaliate militarily? Then-President Trump repeatedly asked about this, according to two former senior administration officials and a third person briefed on the matter.

“It was almost too stupid for words,” said a former Trump official intimately familiar with the then-sitting president’s inquiry. “I did not get the sense he was joking at all.”

The sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, tell Rolling Stone that Trump began interrogating national-security officials and other staffers about the alleged weapon during the first year of his presidency, and his question would pop up sporadically until at least 2018. Two of the sources recalled that as Trump got deeper into the second year in his term, he started to drop the topic, and occasionally joked about it.

In certain circles within the upper ranks of Trumpland, the then-leader of the free world’s query became such a mockable occurrence that it became known among some as the “Hurricane Gun” thing.

“I was present [once] when he asked if China ‘made’ hurricanes to send to us,” said the other former senior official. Trump “wanted to know if the technology existed. One guy in the room responded, ‘Not to the best of my knowledge, sir.’ I kept it together until I got back to my office… I do not know where the [then-]president would have heard about that… He was asking about it around the time, maybe a little before, he asked people about nuking hurricanes.”

This patently boneheaded line of inquiry from Trump, which has not been previously reported, was merely one instance in an administration overflowing with Trump’s rampantly absurd, conspiracy-theory-powered ideas and policy proposals, many of which were ignored or shot down, thus avoiding additional atrocities. Last week, it was revealed that Trump’s former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper wrote in his new memoir that his ex-boss wanted to attack Mexico with missiles — during peacetime between the two nations — and then try to pin the blame on another country.

Despite leaving office in disgrace, Trump has continued on as the undisputed leader of the Republican Party and by far its most popular and influential national figure. He is currently the clear favorite to win the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, should he ultimately decide to launch another campaign. Though a final decision has not yet been made, Trump has strongly signaled to a variety of a*sociates and counselors that he intends to run again, having made it his mission to turn his anti-democratic lies about the 2020 election being “stolen” from him into party orthodoxy.

A Trump spokesperson did not provide comment on this story.

“That does not surprise me at all,” says Stephanie Grisham, a former top Trump aide who has since had a very public break with the Trumps. Though Grisham said she was not privy to the “Hurricane Gun” chatter, she simply noted: “Stuff like that was not unusual for him. He would blurt out crazy things all the time, and tell aides to look into it or do something about it. His staff would say they’d look into knowing that more often than not, he’d forget about it quickly — much like a toddler.”

Trump’s “hurricane gun” inquiries add to a list of odd beliefs the former president holds not just about climate science in general — which he has called a hoax “created by and for the Chinese” — but hurricanes in particular. During the 2019 hurricane season, Trump insisted on telling the public that Hurricane Dorian was headed towards Alabama, which no models had predicted. Trump later appeared with a map that appeared to have been edited to include a projection of the storm hitting Alabama. The incident, dubbed Sharpiegate for Trump’s erroneous marking of a map, led to an inspector general’s report which concluded that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had falsely backed up Trump’s claim about the hurricane’s path as a result of White House pressure.

At times, Trump’s comments about possible Wile E Coyote-style weapons have touched on similarly bizarre ideas mulled by the U.S. during the Cold War.

During the 2019 hurricane season, Trump reportedly kept suggesting to aides that the U.S. bomb hurricanes with nuclear weapons in the mistaken belief that the explosions would somehow mitigate or destroy the tropical storms — an idea first floated by eccentric Cold War scientists working on Project Plowshare, which tried to brainstorm peaceful uses for nuclear weapons.

The U.S. Air Force’s Project Popeye aimed to use cloud seeding — dropping salts and dry ice into clouds in order to induce rain and snowfall — to try and defeat the insurgency in South Vietnam.

“The idea behind it was that we could we slow down weapons and materials getting from North to South Vietnam via the Ho Chi Minh trail by creating a monsoon season year round so that trail would be unpassable,” explains Vince Houghton, a historian whose book, Nuking the Moon, chronicles some of the more bizarre failed weapons of the Cold War.

While cloud seeding works to create precipitation, it can’t create hurricanes, which inflict damage primarily through strong winds and high storm surges rather than rainfall. But China’s investment in cloud-seeding technology for agricultural production and disaster mitigation has prompted conspiracy theories in the kinds of right-wing fever swamps that often inform MAGA discourse.

More recently, right-wing believers in the QAnon conspiracy theories have taken to arguing that President Joe Biden used a Chinese-made weather weapon to send the freezing weather that crippled Texas power lines as Sen. Ted Cruz fled to Cancun, Mexico

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 2 weeks ago '20        #2
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Why do we keep electing these senile old fools ?
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 2 weeks ago '19        #3
Thisizdray 
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The media has a way of framing things. Maybe he was really trying to reveal we have a harp machine (conspiracy theory) and he was asking if China is using theirs on us…..
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 2 weeks ago '11        #4
0ddJoB 
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 Thisizdray said
The media has a way of framing things. Maybe he was really trying to reveal we have a harp machine (conspiracy theory) and he was asking if China is using theirs on us…..
HAARP isn't a conspiracy its an actual think and cloud seeding is weather control .
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 2 weeks ago '07        #5
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x79
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same guy that wanted to nuke a hurricane
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 2 weeks ago '04        #6
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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who really is still thinking about Trump All this hot tea, chatty patty "news" about hearsay must have some motive behind it no?

Because any normal person really doesn't give a fu*k about what he supposedly said years ago that led to absolutely nothing?
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 2 weeks ago '22        #7
Future vision  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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sh*t if they can make artificial who's to say they can't make hurricanes as well? But I'm sure Trump's just a fu*king dumbass

EDIT: rain


Last edited by Future vision; 05-14-2022 at 07:38 AM..
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 2 weeks ago '06        #8
Storchaveli  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
who really is still thinking about Trump All this hot tea, chatty patty "news" about hearsay must have some motive behind it no?

Because any normal person really doesn't give a fu*k about what he supposedly said years ago that led to absolutely nothing?
I detest Trump and I think his followers are stupid as sh*t but at this point… this. This doesn’t really matter.
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 2 weeks ago '20        #9
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 yola said
same guy that wanted to nuke a hurricane
Everytime i see a tornado he comes to mind & i keep thinking if you could really drop something in it
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 2 weeks ago '11        #10
Slingy 
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They probably informed him about how they attack countries with Earthquakes so he asked who also has this technology? Then proceeded to ask if they could also create hurricanes.

Nice hit piece though.
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 2 weeks ago '04        #11
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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 Storchaveli said
I detest Trump and I think his followers are stupid as sh*t but at this point… this. This doesn’t really matter.
Yea I mean it's the same sh*t as some rednecks posting gossip talk about what Obama said back in 2013
@ obviously on that chatty patty TDS train. Hope you get the help you need brother.


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 2 weeks ago '19        #12
GetYaCoinsKing  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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MSM tried to make it seem as if he was crazy for asking that, When on that same month Dubai had to use nano-technology to bring-in clouds/rain.

 2 weeks ago '17        #13
lucifershammer  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Trump would fit well on BX
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 2 weeks ago '05        #14
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
Yea I mean it's the same sh*t as some rednecks posting gossip talk about what Obama said back in 2013
@ obviously on that chatty patty TDS train. Hope you get the help you need brother.
My mom made spaghetti and meatballs Vito
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 2 weeks ago '04        #15
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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 Dun Language said
My mom made spaghetti and meatballs Vito
oooohhh sick burn

I know you love meat balls




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 2 weeks ago '17        #16
Nosbig 
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 Xiox said
Why do we keep electing these senile old fools ?
Good question.... but I mean HAARP does exist and Biejing famously altered the weather for the Olympics....... the fact that other government officials downplayed its plausiblity like they don't authorize billions to HAARP every year
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 2 weeks ago '12        #17
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
who really is still thinking about Trump
We currently have an entire nations worth of politicians f*ghting each other in their primaries that are pushing themselves as Pro-Trump and/or Anti-Trump.

He became the/a focal point of American politics like he and many of you supporters wanted during his political rise and only when the results of those seeds aren't flowers...you have a problem with them being acknowledged.

We saw this happen with Bush though right? Registered a 96% approval rating at one point in his term and dominated the news cycle only for his most ardent supporters to tell us he should quickly be forgotten about once it all looked bad

Trump himself wrote multiple times in his book that he loves negative press just as much as he loves positive press because it means people are only talking about him...He won...his supporters won..this was his mission all along...ATTENTION, nothing more.


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 2 weeks ago '20        #18
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Nosbig said
Good question.... but I mean HAARP does exist and Biejing famously altered the weather for the Olympics....... the fact that other government officials downplayed its plausiblity like they don't authorize billions to HAARP every year
Never heard about this , i heard that they made artificial snow

 2 weeks ago '12        #19
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Thisizdray said
The media has a way of framing things. Maybe he was really trying to reveal we have a harp machine (conspiracy theory) and he was asking if China is using theirs on us…..
Or it could just be some more stupid sh*t he said...I mean he has a history of doing that for the 40 years as a celeb which is much more time than the the 4 and a half years he was a politician

The notion of Trump saying dumb sh*t isn't this new political thing..he's done it for almost twice the amount of time you've been alive. Like republicans told folks about his dumb statements...get over it
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 2 weeks ago '07        #20
JoeDoe22 
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Let it go already...Trump is a nobody right now, stop bringing him up.

 2 weeks ago '15        #21
SSJ4 Goku  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
oooohhh sick burn

I know you love meat balls




What is this?

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 2 weeks ago '12        #22
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Future vision said
sh*t if they can make artificial who's to say they can't make hurricanes as well? But I'm sure Trump's just a fu*king dumbass
I wish they'd use it to make some rain for some of the areas hit by bad dry weather this year. I watched this video in a thread on reddit about how farms have been drying up in America, even in Idaho a few months back:

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 2 weeks ago '04        #23
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 2 weeks ago '17        #24
Nosbig 
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 Xiox said
Never heard about this , i heard that they made artificial snow
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/china-sets-aside-millions-to-control-the-rain-2016-7%3famp

USA also used it in Vietnam..... but yeah trumps crazy I guess. And people who talk about HAARP are trump supporting racists even though trump wasn't even a political figure when ppl been calling out HAARP, but whatever can't wait for the stupidity of the next campaign. Atleast twitter hopefully will be sold by then. One less government brainwashing tool
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 2 weeks ago '04        #25
ItAlY2BkLyN 
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 OldBusiness said
We currently have an entire nations worth of politicians f*ghting each other in their primaries that are pushing themselves as Pro-Trump and/or Anti-Trump.

He became the/a focal point of American politics like he and many of you supporters wanted during his political rise and only when the results of those seeds aren't flowers...you have a problem with them being acknowledged.

We saw this happen with Bush though right? Registered a 96% approval rating at one point in his term and dominated the news cycle only for his most ardent supporters to tell us he should quickly be forgotten about once it all looked bad

He himself wrote multiple times in his book that he loves negative press just as much as he loves positive press because it means people are only talking about him...He won...his supporters won
Not sure if you meant to say I was a Trump supporter. But if so, just to clarify, I was never a Trump supporter. I was never a political supporter. I'm anti government corruption and status quo.

But my comment was directly related to the OP. The gossip hear say. Only certain people care about it and continue to peddle it.

I think anyone who is extremely supportive or anti any political figure is misguided and doesn't understand the game. Which is why I find it comical that this non-news is still so prevalent.



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