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Apr 20 - China's new deal with Solomon Islands, could put Chinese warships near Australia.



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Apr 20 - China's new deal with Solomon Islands, could put Chinese warships near Australia.
 

 
China's new security pact with Solomon Islands, could put Chinese warships near Australia.


BANGKOK (AP) — The Solomon Islands prime minister confirmed Wednesday that his government has signed a new security agreement with China, but told lawmakers it would not “undermine the peace and harmony of our region” as has been feared by the opposition and countries including the United States and Australia.

The security pact allows China to send police and military personnel to the Solomon Islands “to a*sist in maintaining social order,” while also opening the door for Chinese warships to stop in port there for “logistical replenishment” — giving rise to worries of a possible Chinese naval base on the doorstep of Australia and New Zealand.

But in his address to parliament, Manasseh Sogavare defended the security agreement as being directed entirely to “our internal security situation.” He said it it complemented a 2017 security arrangement with Australia, under which Australian police peacekeepers have been in the capital, Honiara, since riots in November

“I ask all our neighbors, friends and partners to respect the sovereign interest of Solomon Islands on the a*surance that the decision will not adversely impact or undermine the peace and harmony of our region,” he told parliament.

A draft of the agreement leaked online last month, and China’s Foreign Ministry announced Tuesday that it had been signed “the other day.” Sogavare was equally vague, telling lawmakers that it had been signed “a few days ago.”

Australia had urged the Solomon Islands not to sign the pact, and sent Sen. Zed Seselja, the minister for international development and the Pacific, for talks with Sogavare last week. Two top American officials — Kurt Campbell, the National Security Council Indo-Pacific coordinator, and Daniel Kritenbrink, the a*sistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs — are to visit the country this week for talks.

Sogavare has said his government would not let China build a military base, and China has denied seeking a military foothold in the South Pacific.

After China announced the agreement had been signed, Seselij and Australian Minister for Foreign Affairs Marise Payne said in a joint statement that they were “deeply disappointed.”

“Our consistently stated view, including from the perspective of Australia’s national interests, remains that the Pacific family is best placed to meet the security needs of the region,” they said.

“We are concerned about the lack of transparency with which this agreement has been developed, noting its potential to undermine stability in our region.”

They added that they welcomed statements from Sogavare that the “Solomon Islands will never be used for military bases or other military institutions of foreign powers.”

Earlier this week, U.S. State Department spokesman Ned Price said the agreement could destabilize the Solomon Islands and would set a concerning precedent for the wider Pacific region.

“Despite the Solomon Islands government’s comments, the broad nature of the security agreement leaves open the door for the deployment of P.R.C. (People’s Republic of China) military forces to the Solomon Islands,” Price said.

Micronesia and other Pacific Island nations have also expressed concerns about the deal, as has the Solomon Islands’ main opposition party.

In his address, Sogavare defended the pact, saying it would strengthen the country’s police and help them deal with future instability, and that it was “based on mutual respect for sovereignty and in compliance with domestic and international law.”

“Let me a*sure the people of Solomon Islands that we entered into an arrangement with China with our eyes wide open, guided by our national interests,” he said.



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 2 months ago '20        #2
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Is this an issue ?

Why is Uncle Sam angry over this ?
Maybe they want to align with a country who better fits there needs


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 2 months ago '13        #3
boobalo1  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Solomon Islands stunted hard for some dollas.. Australia needs to speed up those new subs..
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 2 months ago '05        #4
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 Xiox said
Is this an issue ?


Why is Uncle Sam angry over this ?
Maybe they want to align with a country who better fits there needs
It's an issue because the Copy Cat Party engages in ethnic cleansing/genocide, spreading viruses.... they're a nuclear power, and the Copy Cat Party are on the verge of invading Taiwan which may soon cause a world war.

NATO cares about the security of its ally, Australia. The Solomon Islands are close to Australia and the CCP wants to be able to threaten the Aussies militarily via the Solomon Islands.
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 2 months ago '05        #5
ReDvIaGrA  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x11
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Western civilization and its interest will suffer if they don’t change their ways against African decent globally. It may be a hidden agenda, but if the westerners don’t change, a shift in global dominance will come faster than you think. The china man is a great chess player.
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 2 months ago '11        #6
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When I watched it on tv I could have swore one of the agreements was that China isnt allowed to set up shop on the Islands

 2 months ago '07        #7
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 ReDvIaGrA said
Western civilization and its interest will suffer if they don’t change their ways against African decent globally. It may be a hidden agenda, but if the westerners don’t change, a shift in global dominance will come faster than you think. The china man is a great chess player.
Exactly ppl be 4getting they have reach in Africa as well. Which mainly is in every country if u think about it
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 2 months ago '14        #8
strungout  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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I feel like China is doing too much

 2 months ago '14        #9
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 Xiox said
Is this an issue ?


Why is Uncle Sam angry over this ?
Maybe they want to align with a country who better fits there needs
Name a carribbean /south pacific or African country that has had the better end of the bargain with a Chinese deal ...long term ....the sentiment seems to be that China is finessing these folks around these parts and on many other forums
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 2 months ago '05        #10
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Aus has been for a long time Americas little barking dog.
I see similar outcome to Ukraine.
Aus will usher in a new Prime Minister this year America will get in his ear. Aus will be used as a pawn to escalate the region.
America wil have the 2 wars they seek so much.

To paraphrase: 'Only thing worse than having America as an enemy is to have them as an Ally'
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 2 months ago '14        #11
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 okayplayer said
Aus has been for a long time Americas little barking dog.
I see similar outcome to Ukraine.
Aus will usher in a new Prime Minister this year America will get in his ear. Aus will be used as a pawn to escalate the region.
America wil have the 2 wars they seek so much.

To paraphrase: 'Only thing worse than having America as an enemy is to have them as an Ally'
i would love to see australia go down in flames
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 2 months ago '20        #12
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 strungout said
Name a carribbean /south pacific or African country that has had the better end of the bargain with a Chinese deal ...long term ....the sentiment seems to be that China is finessing these folks around these parts and on many other forums
Name a predominantly african or dark colored nation that have prospered from the EU or American sir
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 2 months ago '20        #13
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 strungout said
i would love to see australia go down in flames
I wish we would all get along & prosper mutually
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 2 months ago '20        #14
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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It seems like a lot of bitter people dropped the ball on cozying up the those islands

The man might be to late , it's in Chinese interest to see that those islands do good
I respect the leader for doing something different because the norm wasn't working out


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 2 months ago '14        #15
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 Xiox said
Name a predominantly african or dark colored nation that have prospered from the EU or American sir
That's true .....just can't catch a break it seems some of these nations are desperate so they take loans that will take forever to pay off or be impossible to pay it off in one's lifetime....it will turn into a generational thing

I mean China is playing chess and they do well at it, they can theoretically buy all of these little chess pieces around the world and have ports and plants in different places while promising the people roads and bridges in return

The pillaging the white man has done is worse but so much of it is historical, and its also a different playing field now

 2 months ago '14        #16
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 Xiox said
I wish we would all get along & prosper mutually
I would love to be able to get along with everyone , but do they want to get along with me , I can only give the energy I recieve
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 2 months ago '12        #17
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 boobalo1 said
Solomon Islands stunted hard for some dollas.. Australia needs to speed up those new subs..
Yeah China dropped a crazy bag his statement makes zero sense. You going to stick Chinese military on your citizens if their is disorder? Lol

 2 months ago '20        #18
Meme01 
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I'm going to love to see the hypocrisy from the west. China being on their neighbor's border is going to be concern, meanwhile people are going clutch pearls at the idea of Russia being concerned Ukraine and NATO's relation.

Don't get me wrong, this is all just a big game of imperialism, but its funny how the narratives work.
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 2 months ago '22        #19
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 Meme01 said
Don't get me wrong, this is all just a big game of imperialism, but its funny how the narratives work.
Trust me

In this game of imperialism, despite America's shady past, you would want the US to win
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 2 months ago '20        #20
Meme01 
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 RedFishBlueFish said
Trust me

In this game of imperialism, despite America's shady past, you would want the US to win
I prefer neither win. The US is good for me domestically, but it's horrible for the world at large.
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 2 months ago '05        #21
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 ice wolf said
It's an issue because the Copy Cat Party engages in ethnic cleansing/genocide, spreading viruses.... they're a nuclear power, and the Copy Cat Party are on the verge of invading Taiwan which may soon cause a world war.

NATO cares about the security of its ally, Australia. The Solomon Islands are close to Australia and the CCP wants to be able to threaten the Aussies militarily via the Solomon Islands.
@ is a card-carrying CCP member. Don't expect any dissent against China from him.
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 2 months ago '22        #22
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 Meme01 said
I prefer neither win. The US is good for me domestically, but it's horrible for the world at large.
Hey Buddy

Your domestic privileges would be affected if the US and it's allies doesn't win globally. How disconnected from reality are you?
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 2 months ago '05        #23
ice wolf  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x13
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 Y.G. said
@ is a card-carrying CCP member. Don't expect any dissent against China from him.
Homie probably already caught a couple of Uyghur bodies


Last edited by ice wolf; 04-25-2022 at 10:23 AM..
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 2 months ago '20        #24
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 2 months ago '20        #25
Meme01 
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 RedFishBlueFish said
Hey Buddy

Your domestic privileges would be affected if the US and it's allies doesn't win globally. How disconnected from reality are you?
It won't be significantly. This is mostly fearmongering. The US won't decline to obscurity, it's just the fact that our rivals will make it harder for us to go to South America, ME, and Africa and do fu*k sh*t.

I also never said I wanted them to "lose" lol. I don't want China to "win" and definitely don't want RUssia to win. All imperialist bodies are sh*t. The only positive is that one can potentially stop another from being completely in control.

We'll still be afforded a nice standard of living.

I'm fine with us not being the sole superpower if it means that sh*t like what happened with Libya won't continue to happen.

EDIT:

And one would think that this sort of situation would encourage the west NOT to sh*t on the little guy as they have been for decades.


Last edited by Meme01; 04-25-2022 at 12:43 PM..
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