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 06-13-2005, 01:17 PM         #1
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Jun 13 - CONGRESS READY TO RESURRECT DRAFT (Bill already sent)
 

 
OH OH, i knew this sh*t was coming since the war is not ending now and the army are not even meeting recruiting numbers they want, so they will say fu*k YOU n*gga, YOU COMING TO WAR. Expect this draft bill to be enforced once another attack happens in america, that will make the decision clear for bush.


CONGRESS READY TO RESURRECT DRAFT

U.S. Needs ‘More Boots on Ground,’ Says Democrat



By Greg Szymanski

A House bill to reinstate the draft finally made its way to the Armed Services Committee where a vote is expected only after President Bush decides whether he is for or against conscription.

Bush has failed to make clear how he plans to restock the Army in light of dwindling recruiting numbers. Meanwhile, Congress is reluctant to make a decision due to the draft’s unpopularity with voters.

A White House spokesman said Bush has “always firmly opposed the draft.” But many insiders believe Bush will have to reassess the issue in light of the Army’s failed recruiting efforts.

Emile Milne, a spokesman for Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), who sponsored the controversial draft bill, said this is the type of bill “no one likes to touch” without a consensus of all branches of government.

“The draft is especially unpopular now because of the mounting death toll in Iraq,” said Milne. “Rep. Rangel is, of course, opposed to the war, but believes if we are going to have to f*ght it, then the military should have enough soldiers to do the job properly.”

Rangel, originally in favor of the draft in order that “rich and poor equally share the burden of the war,” now feels the draft may also become a necessity due to the Army’s difficulty in meeting recruiting goals.

Since the war has become less popular with the American people and the death toll of U.S. soldiers in Iraq has risen to over 1,680, the Army is now reporting recruiting levels down as much as 50 percent.

The issue of “enough boots on the ground” is further complicated by the added strain put on the National Guard troops, many having to serve two or three tours of duty in Iraq.

“There is no doubt that the military is undermanned,” said Milne. “Rep. Rangel feels if the war is going to continue, the only way to solve the problem is to bring back the draft.”

Although Rangel’s bill mounted very little support when it was first introduced last session during an election year, critics claim now that the election is over and the military is crying for more warm bodies that a reinstatement of the draft is “inevitable and only a mater of time.”

“No one likes to hear it, but if things keep going the way they are with less recruits and re-enlistment numbers down, the draft may be the only way to solve the problem,” said Milne.

POLITICAL LIMBO

Whether the draft becomes a reality is still in political limbo. However, no one would argue that Bush’s aggressive foreign military policy dictates the need for more troops.

In a recent Los Angeles Times article, former security advisors Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski were quoted as saying the U.S. requires at least 500,000 more troops to sustain the war in Iraq and reinstatement of the draft may be unpopular but necessary.

“At best, Rangel’s bill merely plays into Bush’s hands,” said Bill Galvin, head of an anti-war group called the Center of Conscience and War. “At worst, it’s a stealth measure intended to supply progressive political cover for pro-draft Democrats.”

Galvin said he also fears Bush is just waiting for the right moment “to spring the draft back on the American people” since he no longer has to worry about getting re-elected.




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115 comments for "Jun 13 - CONGRESS READY TO RESURRECT DRAFT (Bill already sent)"

 06-13-2005, 01:18 PM         #2
Father Aftermath  OP
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Fucccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

 06-13-2005, 01:25 PM         #3
JOEKILLA  OP
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Here is more on the matter

Military draft back on US agenda

Australian Daily Telegraph | June 13 2005

THE United States would "have to face" a painful dilemma on restoring the military draft as rising casualties saw the number of volunteers dry up, a senator warned today.

Joseph Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the prediction after new data released by the Pentagon showed the US Army failing to meet its recruitment targets for four straight months.

"We're going to have to face that question," he said on NBC's Meet the Press TV show when asked if it was realistic to expect restoration of the draft.

"The truth of the matter is, it is going to become a subject, if, in fact, there's a 40 per cent shortfall in recruitment. It's just a reality," he said.

The comment came after the Department of Defence announced the army had missed its recruiting goal for May by 1661 recruits, or 25 per cent. Similar losses have been reported by army officials every month since February.

Experts said the latest figure was misleading because the army had quietly lowered its May recruitment target from 8050 to 6700 people. It has been suggested the real shortfall is closer to 40 per cent.

Since October, the shortfall in recruits has been put at more than 8000 people, which amounts to the loss of about a modern brigade.

The army, navy and marine corps reserves also fell short of their monthly goals by 18 per cent, six per cent and 12 per cent respectively, according to the latest figures.

Recruitment at the Army National Guard was down 29 per cent, while the Air National Guard fell short 22 per cent.

The United States abandoned the military draft in 1973, following mass protests during the Vietnam War, and switched to an all-volunteer force.

Mandatory registration for the draft was suspended in 1975, but resumed in 1980 after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. About 13.5 million men are now registered with the US Government as potential draftees.

During the 2004 election campaign, Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry repeatedly accused President George W. Bush of planning to re-instate "a back-door draft", charges the president vehemently denied.

But while admitting that restoring the draft would be politically "very difficult," Senator Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said something would have to be done because the situation with recruitment was not likely to improve.

"If you think you have trouble getting recruits today, you're going to have far more trouble six months from now," he predicted on CBS's Face the Nation.

"It is not going to get better. That's going to get worse."

Republican Representative Curt Weldon called the recruitment shortfalls "troublesome" and "unacceptable".

But he urged the military "to find ways to fix the current system" and to attract more recruits with the help of new incentives.

Nearly 1900 US troops have been k*lled in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere since the beginning of the war on terror in the wake of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

 14 years ago '04        #4
MegaTON 22 heat pts22
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fu*k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 14 years ago '04        #5
tdb33 
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holy sh*t... im 18 just turned 18 in march... this is terrible news

 06-13-2005, 01:29 PM         #6
T_Montana  OP
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not on cnn and that site just looks like a bullsh*t site.......and if this is true we need to just go murder that f*g**t bush<-----not joking

 14 years ago '04        #7
W24x55 66 heat pts66
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how many times have we heard this before? talk is fu*kin cheap. just wait for it to HAPPEN. god damn

 14 years ago '04        #8
KiNgJaMeS305 58 heat pts58
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lol, i aint f*ghtin no war


ill just go to south america

 06-13-2005, 01:32 PM         #9
JOEKILLA  OP
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EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wow:

Bush has just released a VIDEO(click below) regarding this matter, EXCLUSIVE!!!


 06-13-2005, 01:36 PM         #10
JOEKILLA  OP
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 T_Montana said
not on cnn and that site just looks like a bullsh*t site.......and if this is true we need to just go murder that f*g**t bush<-----not joking

you expect CNN to give you the headsup?, soon those fools are worrying about michael jackson and bullsh*t like that. btw THIS IS REAL NEWS, Go google it and see what you get.

 14 years ago '04        #11
MegaTON 22 heat pts22
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i thought u were serious i was about ready to break this fu*kin keyboard

 06-13-2005, 01:39 PM         #12
ADrake22  OP
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<<<<< Draft Dodgger #1


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 14 years ago '04        #13
jem120690 17 heat pts17
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im the perfect age for this sh*t to drop rite on me........

:banghead:

 06-13-2005, 01:44 PM         #14
JOEKILLA  OP
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 FrostyNug24 said
how many times have we heard this before? talk is fu*kin cheap. just wait for it to HAPPEN. god damn

Once USA gets struck again by an attack, thats when it will "HAPPEN", the bill will be there and the president will not even make the decision now, no need to panic just yet. some attack will trigger it, oh and this WAR ON TERROR is no where near its end, Bush already got IRAN on his mind/same with SYRIA and i heard rumsfeld talked sh*t about CHINA , oh and we know the beef with NK exist.

Remember the AXIS OF EVIL?, all of them are in bush agenda. So this DRAFT is on the way....either way, the US army can't go on this world war type agenda with a few soldiers. do you know how many people CHINA and NK got combined?.

So no need to panic NOW but now that the draft now is part of the agenda and when it is time to enforce it, all bush has to do is sign it after congress approves it.(which they will btw).

 06-13-2005, 01:47 PM         #15
JOEKILLA  OP
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 MegaTON said
i thought u were serious i was about ready to break this fu*kin keyboard

What you talking about?, I WAS SERIOUS and so is this news. THE DRAFT is part of the US agenda now more then ever, their is no way around it.

 06-13-2005, 01:47 PM         #16
CaptainMushKing  OP
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 JOEKILLA said
Once USA gets struck again by an attack, thats when it will "HAPPEN", the bill will be there and the president will not even make the decision now, no need to panic just yet. some attack will trigger it, oh and this WAR ON TERROR is no where near its end, Bush already got IRAN on his mind/same with SYRIA and i heard rumsfeld talked sh*t about CHINA , oh and we know the beef with NK exist.

Remember the AXIS OF EVIL?, all of them are in bush agenda. So this DRAFT is on the way....either way, the US army can't go on this world war type agenda with a few soldiers. do you know how many people CHINA and NK got combined?.

So no need to panic NOW but now that the draft now is part of the agenda and when it is time to enforce it, all bush has to do is sign it after congress approves it.(which they will btw).

are you fu*king seriouse? dude is acting like he goes out to bars with the Bush administration................. sit down and stop spreading propaganda

 06-13-2005, 01:48 PM         #17
JOEKILLA  OP
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^FOOL i heard that ON FOX NEWS, smh at this kid being ignorant as fu*k

 06-13-2005, 01:50 PM         #18
JOEKILLA  OP
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btw make sure you see that EXCLUSIVE VIDEO "D.R.A.F.T.", page 1.


ps.

This is REAL NEWS people, don't get twisted and think this is all talk.

 06-13-2005, 01:51 PM         #19
Cassidy  OP
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Canada here i come!!!!

 06-13-2005, 01:54 PM         #20
T_Montana  OP
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why don't you prove it's real news?I did google and came up with nothing but old sh*t....

you say you saw it on foxnews but they got nothing on their site

 14 years ago '04        #21
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ok...hold up here now....lets look at this logically, now theres not even a FRACTION of the casualties lost in the Vietnam War and they talkin about a draft....the fu*k outta here

 14 years ago '05        #22
MyZ28 18 heat pts18
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this is just someone "assuming" this aint real news. They have been saying this since that bi*ch was reelected. If it does happen i aint going so they can go ahead and get my cell ready.

 06-13-2005, 02:05 PM         #23
Redd PoPaBitch  OP
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hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go! hell no we won't go!















this cat bush skipped the war and he wants to send as many as he can to get k*lled...


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 06-13-2005, 02:13 PM         #24
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Damn I turn 18 in October. But, there's been talk about a draft, but nothing has materialized since Bush's reelection. There was one bill that was formed by two Democratic representatives just to scare the public into realizing that the draft is nothing to mess with and could happen but, it never passed, it got two votes from those two representatives. If a real bill ever was proposed there would be an outcry that would eventually lead to a rebellion.

 06-13-2005, 02:27 PM         #25
DoogZ  OP
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The bill was put before congress over a year ago, and it got shot down. Whether it's being dug up again, I've heard nothing from anyone reliable saying it is, but I don't know. Also, the armed forces would rather not have a draft, they would just bump up the pay of soldiers and enlistment bonuses and step up recruiting, and loosen restrictions on who they will take. An army full of draftees has 0 morale, and are considerably impossible to keep under control if the war isn't popular, which this war isn't.

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