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 4 months ago '21        #1
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MollyINmylean 
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Possible boxing GOAT???
 

 
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 4 months ago '20        #2
Bighempin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Jack Johnson!!

PBS has a great documentary about him. He invented the emergency break.

Also he's the reason Marijuana is illegal..
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 4 months ago '17        #3
CJ Schwarz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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Nah. He wouldn't f*ght other Black Heavyweights when he had the title.
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 4 months ago '17        #4
92baby 
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 CJ Schwarz said
Nah. He wouldn't f*ght other Black Heavyweights when he had the title.
That’s good

Shows unity
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 4 months ago '17        #5
CJ Schwarz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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 92baby said
That’s good

Shows unity


No that's selfishness
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 4 months ago '05        #6
Tha Boss  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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 92baby said
That’s good

Shows unity
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 4 months ago '18        #7
TexasPlayaMayne  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x22
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 CJ Schwarz said
Nah. He wouldn't f*ght other Black Heavyweights when he had the title.
I never heard of this.
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 4 months ago '16        #8
BobbyMaccaheaux 
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 Bighempin said
Jack Johnson!!

PBS has a great documentary about him. He invented the emergency break.

Also he's the reason Marijuana is illegal..
anslinger ... cuz of johnson?

 4 months ago '12        #9
Superstarbrown7  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 CJ Schwarz said
Nah. He wouldn't f*ght other Black Heavyweights when he had the title.
I thought he never won one cause everybody was afraid of him

 4 months ago '17        #10
CJ Schwarz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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 Superstarbrown7 said
I thought he never won one cause everybody was afraid of him
Nah there were Black (Colored/Negro) Heavyweights that called him out but he wouldn't f*ght them because he made more money being the "problematic" Black Champ and promoters would pay out big purses in hopes that he would lose his belt to the " Great White Hope". Look up Joe Jeanette. Matter of Fact watch the PBS special on Jack Johnson.
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 4 months ago '16        #11
recycledtwice 
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 CJ Schwarz said
Nah. He wouldn't f*ght other Black Heavyweights when he had the title.
That was Jack Johnson. This video is about Sam Langford
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 4 months ago '16        #12
recycledtwice 
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@CJSchwarz, I apologize. I misunderstood the message of yours that I quoted.

I now see that you were saying that Johnson wouldn't f*ght any other black f*ghters after he won the world heavyweight title, not just Sam Langford
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 4 months ago '16        #13
recycledtwice 
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There are a few Boxing historians who rank Sam Langford as the greatest boxer ever.

But for the record, Jack Johnson and Sam Langford fought prior to Johnson winning the world heavyweight title. Johnson won the f*ght. We don't know what would have happened in a rematch.
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But I have not ran across a single boxing historian who ranks Johnson above Langford.

Other notable forgotten black f*ghters from that era that are great, are Sam McVey and Joe Jeanette (as mentioned previously in this thread).
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 4 months ago '17        #14
CJ Schwarz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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 recycledtwice said
That was Jack Johnson. This video is about Sam Langford
I didn't click on the video because the playback is unavailable. So I a*sumed this was a video on Jack Johnson from the thumbnail. Excuse my ignorance in this thread. Too many on this site try and push their YouTube channels on here that I just a*sumed it was the case.

Edit:

I wrote a paper back in college on African American boxers back in college so I'm familiar with Sam Langford and Joe Jeanette in particular.
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 4 months ago '16        #15
recycledtwice 
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 CJ Schwarz said
I didn't click on the video because the playback is unavailable. So I a*sumed this was a video on Jack Johnson from the thumbnail. Excuse my ignorance in this thread. Too many on this site try and push their YouTube channels on here that I just a*sumed it was the case.

Edit:

I wrote a paper back in college on African American boxers back in college so I'm familiar with Sam Langford and Joe Jeanette in particular.
Yeah, the video is unavailable on here. But it's a video about how supposedly Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson didn't want to f*ght Sam Langford. It's by a YouTube channel named Rainy Day Boxing.

And as far as your edit goes, I read the rest of your posts (plus I've seen plenty of your posts in other boxing threads), and there is no way that I would be surprised at the depth of your boxing knowledge. I am not surprised that you wrote a paper on those gentlemen. Do you know how many times Langford and Jeanette fought each other off of the top of your head by any chance? I'm not remembering at the moment myself, but I know it was a lot.

Edit:

Video is about Sam Langford. It's not specifically about the Dempsey and Johnson situations.

Great video


Last edited by recycledtwice; 01-27-2022 at 01:46 PM..
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 4 months ago '17        #16
CJ Schwarz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x37
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 recycledtwice said
Yeah, the video is unavailable on here. But it's a video about how supposedly Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson didn't want to f*ght Sam Langford. It's by a YouTube channel named Rainy Day Boxing.

And as far as your edit goes, I read the rest of your posts (plus I've seen plenty of your posts in other boxing threads), and there is no way that I would be surprised at the depth of your boxing knowledge. I am not surprised that you wrote a paper on those gentlemen. Do you know how many times Langford and Jeanette fought each other off of the top of your head by any chance? I'm not remembering at the moment myself, but I know it was a lot
I can't tell you off the top of my head without looking it up, I'm not Bert Sugar. That paper I did was over 10 years ago in college. My advice just go through a rabbit hole and try and find as many clips archives you can watch.

 4 months ago '14        #17
Kyu  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x39
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Floyd Mayweather is the Goat, beat the most champions, never lost, dominated multiple divisions in 20 years, never knocked down, made the most money, best landing percentage, retired undefeated and shattered every record.
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 4 months ago '16        #18
recycledtwice 
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 CJ Schwarz said
I can't tell you off the top of my head without looking it up, I'm not Bert Sugar. That paper I did was over 10 years ago in college. My advice just go through a rabbit hole and try and find as many clips archives you can watch.
No doubt. It's all good. I was just asking just in case you knew. But yeah, I started going down that rabbit holes years ago, and I'm still going down it
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 4 months ago '20        #19
Die in Houston  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 92baby said
That’s good

Shows unity



”Apologies to my Negro brethren, but I hope you all will understand that these fists are strictly to be used against the white man. Godspeed!”

-Sam Langford June 19, 1907
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 4 months ago '17        #20
92baby 
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 CJ Schwarz said


No that's selfishness
 Tha Boss said
 Die in Houston said

Like I said




Gotta know a bit about history and those times


Y’all can’t see the quote so look at the post above

 4 months ago '21        #21
MollyINmylean  OP
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 recycledtwice said
There are a few Boxing historians who rank Sam Langford as the greatest boxer ever.

But for the record, Jack Johnson and Sam Langford fought prior to Johnson winning the world heavyweight title. Johnson won the f*ght. We don't know what would have happened in a rematch.
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But I have not ran across a single boxing historian who ranks Johnson above Langford.

Other notable forgotten black f*ghters from that era that are great, are Sam McVey and Joe Jeanette (as mentioned previously in this thread).
They fought but that's like a welterweight f*ghting a heavyweight, that's crazy to even have that contest
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 4 months ago '09        #22
Lupe Hunter  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 recycledtwice said
That was Jack Johnson. This video is about Sam Langford
Jack Johnson beat Langford multiple times along other black boxers of his time

Jack was too skilled in his era the only weakness he had was his ego and his love for pissing racist off.

 4 months ago '16        #23
recycledtwice 
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 Lupe Hunter said
Jack Johnson beat Langford multiple times along other black boxers of his time

Jack was too skilled in his era the only weakness he had was his ego and his love for pissing racist off.
Johnson and Langford only fought once

 4 months ago '16        #24
recycledtwice 
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 MollyINmylean said
They fought but that's like a welterweight f*ghting a heavyweight, that's crazy to even have that contest
Yeah Langford was 156lbs, Johnson was 185lbs

 4 months ago '14        #25
Kyu  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x39
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Floyd > Langford

Y’all don’t even got tape of Langford smh



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