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Oct 27 - Apple threatened Facebook ban over use of its apps to sell and trade maids in ME
 

 
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) - Two years ago, Apple threatened to pull Facebook and Instagram from its app store over concerns about the platform being used as a tool to trade and sell maids in the Mideast.
After publicly promising to crack down, Facebook acknowledged in internal documents obtained by The a*sociated Press that it was “under-enforcing on confirmed abusive activity” that saw Filipina maids complaining on the social media site of being abused. Apple relented and Facebook and Instagram remained in the app store.

But Facebook's crackdown seems to have had a limited effect. Even today, a quick search for “khadima,” or “maids” in Arabic, will bring up accounts featuring posed photographs of Africans and South Asians with ages and prices listed next to their images. That's even as the Philippines government has a team of workers that do nothing but scour Facebook posts each day to try and protect desperate job seekers from criminal gangs and unscrupulous recruiters using the site.
While the Mideast remains a crucial source of work for women in Asia and Africa hoping to provide for their families back home, Facebook acknowledged some countries across the region have “especially egregious” human rights issues when it comes to laborers' protection.
“In our investigation, domestic workers frequently complained to their recruitment agencies of being locked in their homes, starved, forced to extend their contracts indefinitely, unpaid, and repeatedly sold to other employers without their consent,” one Facebook document read. “In response, agencies commonly told them to be more agreeable.”
The report added: “We also found recruitment agencies dismissing more serious crimes, such as physical or s*xual a*sault, rather than helping domestic workers.”
In a statement to the AP, Facebook said it took the problem seriously, despite the continued spread of ads exploiting foreign workers in the Mideast.
“We prohibit human exploitation in no uncertain terms,” Facebook said. “We've been combating human trafficking on our platform for many years and our goal remains to prevent anyone who seeks to exploit others from having a home on our platform.”
This story, along with others published Monday, is based on disclosures made to the Securities and Exchange Commission and provided to Congress in redacted form by former Facebook employee-turned-whistleblower Frances Haugen's legal counsel. The redacted versions were obtained by a consortium of news organizations, including the AP. The Wall Street Journal previously wrote about Apple's threat to remove Facebook and Instagram.
Taken as a whole, the trove of documents show that Facebook's daunting size and user base around the world - a key factor in its rapid ascent and near trillion-dollar valuation - also proves to be its greatest weakness in trying to police illicit activity, such as the sale of drugs, and suspected human rights and labor abuses on its site.
Activists say Facebook, based in Menlo Park, California, has both an obligation and likely the means to fully crack down on the abuses their services facilitate as it earns tens of billions of dollars each year in revenue.
“While Facebook is a private company, when you have billions of users, you are effectively like a state and therefore you have social responsibilities de facto, whether you like it or not,” said Mustafa Qadri, the executive director of Equidem Research, which studies migrant labor.
“These workers are being recruited and going to places to work like the Gulf, the Middle East, where there is practically no proper regulation of how they're recruited and how they're treated when they end up in the places where they work. So when you put those two things together, really, it's a recipe for disaster.”
Mary Ann Abunda, who works with a nongovernmental Filipino workers' welfare group called Sandigan in Kuwait, similarly warned of the danger the site can pose.
“Facebook really has two faces,” Abunda said. “Yes, as it advertises, it's connecting people, but it has also become a haven of sinister people and syndicates who wait for your weak moment to pounce on you.”
Facebook, like human rights activists and others worried about labor across the Mideast, pointed to the so-called “kafala” system prevalent across much of the region's countries. Under this system, which allowed nations to import cheap foreign labor from Africa and South Asia as oil money swelled their economies beginning in the 1950s, workers find their residency bound directly to their employer, their sponsor or “kafeel.”
While workers can find employment in these arrangements that allow them to send money back home, unscrupulous sponsors can exploit their laborers who often have no other legal recourse. Stories of workers having their passports seized, working nonstop without breaks, and not being properly paid long have shadowed major construction projects, whether Dubai's Expo 2020 or Qatar's upcoming FIFA 2022 World Cup.
While Gulf Arab states like the UAE and Qatar insist they've improved working conditions, others like Saudi Arabia still require employers to approve their workers leaving the country. Meanwhile, maids and domestic workers can find themselves even more at risk by living alone with families in private homes.
In the documents seen by the AP, Facebook acknowledges being aware of both the exploitive conditions of foreign workers and the use of Instagram to buy and trade maids online even before a 2019 report by the BBC's Arabic service on the practice in the Mideast. That BBC report sparked the threat by Cupertino, California-based Apple to remove the apps, citing examples of pictures of maids and their biographic details showing up online, according to the documents.
Facebook engineers found nearly three-fourths of all problematic posts, including showing maids in videos and screenshots of their conversations, occurred on Instagram. Links to maid-selling sites predominantly affected Facebook.
Over 60% of the material came from Saudi Arabia, with about a quarter coming from Egypt, according to the 2019 Facebook analysis.
In a statement to the AP, Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Human Resources and Social Development said the kingdom “stands firmly against all types of illegal practices in the labor market” and that all labor contracts must be approved by authorities. While keeping in contact with the Philippines and other nations on labor issues, the ministry said Facebook had never been in touch with it about the problem.

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 1 month ago '11        #2
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That whole sh*t is fu*ked up. It's fu*k Facebook and obviously Facebook gives no fu*ks, but if they did people would move that sh*t to another platform. I don't see how banning Facebook solves the problem.
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 1 month ago '06        #3
Skateboard T  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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I thought this was about Maine


Like what the hell type of freaky sh*t are they doing up there in Stephen King land?


But yeah sh*t's really not funny. Mfs think human trafficking is just some seedy underground kidnapping sh*t but it's more often sh*t like this. Trick somebody into moving, then trap them behind bureaucratic red tape and make them dependent on you.

fu*ked up.
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 1 month ago '05        #4
ice wolf  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8 OP
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 Aces Up said
That whole sh*t is fu*ked up. It's fu*k Facebook and obviously Facebook gives no fu*ks, but if they did people would move that sh*t to another platform. I don't see how banning Facebook solves the problem.
Sadly, Facebook knows that if they remove all of their seedy semi-illegal content that its user base would dwindle down dramatically, so they turn a blind eye to all types of foul sh!t to tout engagement metrics to advertisers. Facebook very much profits off of hate speech, human trafficking, terrorism, etc.
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 1 month ago '05        #5
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Why and how ppl still use that damn app is beyond me. Don’t get me wrong all social media is terrible but for fu*ks sake Facebook is the devils playground. Once of the best feelings I had was deactivating my account then going in and deleting my account and the app. Kudos to Apple.
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 1 month ago '11        #6
Aces Up 
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 ice wolf said
Sadly, Facebook knows that if they remove all of their seedy semi-illegal content that its user base would dwindle down dramatically, so they turn a blind eye to all types of foul sh!t to tout engagement metrics to advertisers. Facebook very much profits off of hate speech, human trafficking, terrorism, etc.
Thank you for your reply, you're correct about that. With their dwindling membership they obviously have no incentive to try to stop it. Slave auctions under a different name, fu*king disgusting.
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 1 month ago '16        #7
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Blaming Facebook is so corny

Every bi*ch in the US is using apple products to sell snatch. Threaten ops. Sell drugs.

They finding child pr0n on Apple products as well.

Don't shift blame.

Some bullsh*t Elizabeth Warren backscreen while try and start a war to get the economy back online.


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 1 month ago '16        #8
foshoVoodoo  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x53
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if thats the case everybody banned from facebook should be able to do a class action lawsuit
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 1 month ago '20        #9
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 ice wolf said
Sadly, Facebook knows that if they remove all of their seedy semi-illegal content that its user base would dwindle down dramatically, so they turn a blind eye to all types of foul sh!t to tout engagement metrics to advertisers. Facebook very much profits off of hate speech, human trafficking, terrorism, etc.
Similar to Twitter, SnapChat and Instagram although iono if the latterly two that I mentioned profit as much off of hate speech and terrorism as FaceBook and Twitter.
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 1 month ago '05        #10
ice wolf  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8 OP
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 theidiotlamper said
Blaming Facebook is so corny

Every bi*ch in the US is using apple products to sell snatch. Threaten ops. Sell drugs.

They finding child por. On Apple products as well.

Don't shift blame.
Sure, Apple's at blame too. Big tech needs to do more to mitigate such issues. The dilemma is that if you clean up Facebook, then traffickers for example will all turn to Signal or Telegram and it'll be harder to catch these shady mvtherfvckers. It's a massive challenge for big tech and big government to tackle.
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 1 month ago '20        #11
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I still can't get past the title;
sell and trade maids

 1 month ago '16        #12
theidiotlamper 
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 ice wolf said
Sure, Apple's at blame too. Big tech needs to do more to mitigate such issues. The dilemma is that if you clean up Facebook, then traffickers for example will all turn to Signal or Telegram and it'll be harder to catch these shady mvtherfvckers. It's a massive challenge for big tech and big government to tackle.
The trafficking is the main reason it should be taken offline.

They've turned a blind eye to it for more than a decade on their
biggest platforms. Facebook IG and Twitter.

The rest of the sh*t sounds like things baby boomers say because they wanna pretend they weren't complacent advocates of racism, purveyors of child pr0n and prostitution, and generally displeased with seeing urban life flourish.

Facebook is their daily reminder that sh*t never changed for the better.

On their way out they'd like to pretend they lived a life for change, when in reality they had some moments, decided it was too risky to truly f*ght got corporate jobs and then said the next generations ruined things.


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 1 month ago '17        #13
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 theidiotlamper said
The trafficking is the main reason it should be taken offline.

They've turned a blind eye to it for more than a decade on their
biggest platforms. Facebook IG and Twitter.

The rest of the sh*t sounds like things baby boomers say because they wanna pretend they weren't complacent advocates of racism, purveyors of child pr0n and prostitution, and generally displeased with seeing urban life flourish.

Facebook is their daily reminder that sh*t never changed for the better.

On their way out they'd like to pretend they lived a life for change, when in reality they had some moments, decided it was too risky to truly f*ght got corporate jobs and then said the next generations ruined things.
Remember Facebook purchased IG so they are same company and even before that merge, IG had trafficking issues. It comes down to if big executives were alerted of these issues and chose to do nothing. They are trying to find plausible deniablity because common sense shows that these fairly smart folks knew what was going on but sided with the idea of profit. But if it shows they knew and denied action, serious consequences can be levied. Hate speech is Grey area online but all the other sh*t should cleaned up as well policy changes, resignations and huge fines. Thats just the start of making proper changes.

 1 month ago '14        #14
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It's well known that the middle east especially these gulf countries with crazy amount of wealth still practice slavery, and its out in the open, many people from India, Philippines & afrique are treated bad out there, they still to come because technically it's better than what they came from in terms of earning

But them sheikh's take advantage of the vulnerable
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 1 month ago '05        #15
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 strungout said
It's well known that the middle east especially these gulf countries with crazy amount of wealth still practice slavery, and its out in the open, many people from India, Philippines & afrique are treated bad out there, they still to come because technically it's better than what they came from in terms of earning

But them sheikh's take advantage of the vulnerable
Yessir, slavery never ended in the ME. In Libya they still
actively trade west African slaves in markets to this day. Slavery is governed by Sharia law, which allows the trafficking of non-Muslims.
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 1 month ago '05        #16
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 theidiotlamper said
The trafficking is the main reason it should be taken offline.

They've turned a blind eye to it for more than a decade on their
biggest platforms. Facebook IG and Twitter.

The rest of the sh*t sounds like things baby boomers say because they wanna pretend they weren't complacent advocates of racism, purveyors of child pr0n and prostitution, and generally displeased with seeing urban life flourish.

Facebook is their daily reminder that sh*t never changed for the better.

On their way out they'd like to pretend they lived a life for change, when in reality they had some moments, decided it was too risky to truly f*ght got corporate jobs and then said the next generations ruined things.
Government needs to step in and force big tech to be regulated, but big tech has infinite $ to f*ght such changes via their lobbyists.
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 1 month ago '04        #17
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man fu*k mark he need that bill gates treatment.



 1 month ago '17        #18
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 theidiotlamper said
Blaming Facebook is so corny

Every bi*ch in the US is using apple products to sell snatch. Threaten ops. Sell drugs.

They finding child pr0n on Apple products as well.

Don't shift blame.

Some bullsh*t Elizabeth Warren backscreen while try and start a war to get the economy back online.
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