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Oct 23 - Where are the workers? Cutoff of jobless aid does NOT bring them back
 

 
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INDIANAPOLIS - Earlier this year, an insistent cry arose from business leaders and Republican governors:

Cut off a $300-a-week federal supplement for unemployed Americans.

Many people, they argued, would then come off the sidelines and take the millions of jobs that employers were desperate to fill.

Yet three months after half the states began ending that federal payment, there's been no significant influx of job seekers.

In states that cut off the $300 check, the workforce ó the number of people who either have a job or are looking for one ó has risen no more than it has in the states that maintained the payment.


That federal aid, along with two jobless aid programs that served gig workers and the long-term unemployed, ended nationally Sept. 6.

Yet America's overall workforce actually shrank that month.

"Policymakers were pinning too many hopes on ending unemployment insurance as a labor market boost," said Fiona Greig, managing director of the JPMorgan Chase Institute, which used JPMorgan bank account data to study the issue.

"The work disincentive effects were clearly small."

Labor shortages have persisted longer than many economists expected, deepening a mystery at the heart of the job market.

Companies are eager to add workers and have posted a near-record number of available jobs.

Unemployment remains elevated.

The economy still has 5 million fewer jobs than it did before the pandemic.

Yet job growth slowed in August and September.

An analysis of state-by-state data by The a*sociated Press found that workforces in the 25 states that maintained the $300 payment actually grew slightly more from May through September, according to data released Friday, than they did in the 25 states that cut off the payment early, most of them in June.

The $300-a-week federal check, on top of regular state jobless aid, meant that many of the unemployed received more in benefits than they earned at their old jobs.

An earlier study by Arindrajit Dube, an economist at University of Massachusetts, Amherst and several colleagues found that the states that cut off the $300 federal payment saw a small increase in the number of unemployed taking jobs.

But it also found that it didn't draw more people off the sidelines to look for work.

Economists point to a range of factors that are likely keeping millions of former recipients of federal jobless aid from returning to the workforce.

Many Americans in public-facing jobs still fear contracting COVID-19, for example. Some families lack child care.

Other people, like Rachel Montgomery of Anderson, Indiana, have grown to cherish the opportunity to spend more time with their families and feel they can get by financially, at least for now.

Montgomery, a 37-year-old mother, said she has become much "pickier" about where sheís willing to work after having lost a catering job last year.

Losing the $300-a-week federal payment hasnít changed her mind.

She'll receive her regular state jobless aid for a few more weeks.

"Once youíve stayed home with your kids and family like this, who wants to physically have to go back to work?" she said.

"As Iím looking and looking, Iíve told myself that Iím not going to sacrifice pay or flexibility working remotely when I know Iím qualified to do certain things. But what that also means is that itís taking longer to find those kinds of jobs."

Indeed, the pandemic appears to have caused a re-evaluation of priorities, with some people deciding to spend more time with family and others insistent on working remotely or gaining more flexible hours.

Some former recipients, especially older, more affluent ones, have decided to retire earlier than they had planned.

With Americans' overall home values and stock portfolios having surged since the pandemic struck, Fed officials estimate that up to 2 million more people have retired since then than otherwise would have.

And after having received three stimulus checks in 18 months, plus federal jobless aid in some cases, most households have larger cash cushions than they did before the pandemic.

Greig and her colleagues at JPMorgan found in a study that the median bank balance for the poorest one-quarter of households has jumped 70% since COVID hit.

A result is that some people are taking time to consider their options before rushing back into the job market.

Graham Berryman, a 44-year-old resident of Springfield, Missouri, has been living off savings since Missouri cut off the $300-a-week federal jobless payment in June.

He has had temporary work reviewing documents for law firms in the past.

But he hasnít found anything permanent since August 2020.

"Iím not lazy," Berryman said.

"I am unemployed. That does not mean Iím lazy. Just because someone cannot find suitable work in their profession doesnít mean theyíre trash to be thrown away."

Likewise, some couples have decided that they can get by with only one income, rather than two, at least temporarily.

Sarah Hamby of Kokomo, Indiana, lost her $300-a-week federal payment this summer after Gov. Eric Holcomb, a Republican, ended that benefit early.

Hamby's husband, who is 65, has kept his job working an overnight shift at a printing press throughout the pandemic.

But he may decide to join the ranks of people retiring earlier than they'd planned.

And Hamby, 51, may do so herself if she doesn't find work soon.

The jobs she had for decades at auto factories have largely disappeared.

The positions that she sees available now require skills she doesnít have.

Yet she isnít desperate for just any job.

"Iím at a point where I feel too old to go off and get educated or trained to do other type of work," she said.

"And to be honest, I donít want to go work at a computer, in an office, like what a lot of us are being pushed to do. So now Iím stuck between doing some line of work that pays too little for what itís worth ó or is too physically demanding ó or I just donít work."

Nationally, the proportion of women who were either working or looking for work in September fell for a second straight month, evidence that many parents ó mostly mothers ó are still unable to manage their childcare duties to return to work.

Staffing at childcare centers has fallen, reducing the care that is available.

And while schools have reopened for in-person learning, frequent closings because of COVID outbreaks have been disruptive for some working parents.

Exacerbating the labor shortfall, a record number of people quit their jobs in August, in some cases spurred by the prospect of higher pay elsewhere.

In Missouri, a group of businesses, still frustrated by labor shortages more than three months after the state cut off the $300-a-week federal jobless checks, paid for billboards in Springfield that said: "Get Off Your Butt!" and "Get. To. Work."

The state has seen no growth in its workforce since ending emergency benefits.

"We donít know where people are," said Brad Parke, general manager of Greek Corner Screen Printing and Embroidery, who helped pay for the billboards.

"Obviously, theyíre not at work. Apparently, theyíre at home."

Richard von Glahn, policy director for Missouri Jobs With Justice, an advocacy group, suggested that many people on the sidelines of the job market want more benefits or the flexibility to care for children.

"People donít want to go back" to the pre-pandemic job market, von Glahn said.

"Employers have a role in creating a work environment and offering a package that provides workers the security they need."

In Wyoming, fewer people are in the workforce now than when the state cut off all emergency jobless aid.

Fear of contracting COVID-19 likely discouraged some people from seeking jobs, Wenlin Liu, chief economist at the state Economic Analysis Division, said last week.

Wyoming has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country, he noted, and has been a COVID-19 hotspot since late summer.

The surge in infections, Liu said, may be causing some parents to keep their children home.

State Rep. Landon Brown, a Republican, defended the cutoff of federal unemployment aid.

"Wyoming," Brown said, "is not interested in continuing to allow the federal government to keep people away from jobs, paying them as much to stay home in some cases as to go and get a job."

Mississippi ended all emergency jobless aid on June 12.

Yet it had fewer people working in August than in May.


In Tupelo last week, a job fair attracted 60 companies, including a recruiter from VT Halter Marine, a shipbuilder located 300 miles south.

About 150 to 200 job seekers also attended, fewer than some businesses had hoped.

Adam Todd had organized the job fair for the Mississippi Department of Employment Security, which helps people find jobs and distributes unemployment benefits.

The agency has received "calls of desperation," Todd said, "from businesses needing to recruit workers during the pandemic.

"We're in a different point in time than we have been in a very long time," Todd said.

"The job seeker is truly in the driverís seat right now."
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 1 month ago '07        #2
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x63 OP
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businesses: "YOU ARE ALL LAZY!!! STOP HELPING PEOPLE!!!"

also businesses: "omg, why don't people want to work in our corrupt, cronyistic, exploitative, abusive, toxic environments for sh*tty pay after we called everyone names"

In Missouri, a group of businesses, still frustrated by labor shortages more than three months after the state cut off the $300-a-week federal jobless checks, paid for billboards in Springfield that said: "Get Off Your Butt!" and "Get. To. Work."
that's it

spend money to shame people that want to be treated like humans

that'll get people to want to work for your sh*tty business
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 1 month ago '21        #3
MacJokerJones 
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Boot straps need to be pulled up lol
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 1 month ago '17        #4
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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Stop calling it a labor shortage and call it what it is: people unwilling to work for bs wages. If you really want people back then you need to pay people a living wage.
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 1 month ago '15        #5
PineappleOG 
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Country is trash, capitalists want to extort working class into just staying in line, they say fu*k regular everyday Americans just make me my latte and do my manicures.
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 1 month ago '15        #6
PineappleOG 
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 Naga Sadow said
Stop calling it a labor shortage and call it what it is: people unwilling to work for bs wages. If you really want people back then you need to pay people a living wage.
Itís all in media framing too, manufacturing consent
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 1 month ago '20        #7
LordGimmeASign 
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This back-and-forth isn't helping anybody out.

They might as well close the book on this by paying better wages, outsource the jobs to those overseas or people that are willing to work an x amount under the table or just roll out those robots that people said were gonna take over a lot of these jobs.

But I hope this teaches businessmen, higher-ups and management personnel a good lesson.
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 1 month ago '11        #8
PotheadFocker  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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The thing is, there was 52 weeks of pay if you got a claim. So yeah it stopped on September. But there will be people getting free money until next September. A lot of folks got their claims early but best believe by this time next year people will be crying for jobs

 1 month ago '17        #9
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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 LordGimmeASign said
This back-and-forth isn't helping anybody out.

They might as well close the book on this by paying better wages, outsource the jobs to those overseas or people that are willing to work an x amount under the table or just roll out those robots that people said were gonna take over a lot of these jobs.

But I hope this teaches businessmen, higher-ups and management personnel a good lesson.
It won't. Their arrogance is far beyond any sensibility.
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 1 month ago '20        #10
LordGimmeASign 
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 PotheadFocker said
The thing is, there was 52 weeks of pay if you got a claim. So yeah it stopped on September. But there will be people getting free money until next September. A lot of folks got their claims early but best believe by this time next year people will be crying for jobs
Elaborate more on this because I missed out on that whole PUI/PPP sh*t.
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 1 month ago '05        #11
bklyn 
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In Biden's america no1 wants to work. Biden doesn't work either, what has he done?
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 1 month ago '11        #12
PotheadFocker  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 LordGimmeASign said
Elaborate more on this because I missed out on that whole PUI/PPP sh*t.
Its called FPUC (Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation). It was written into the last stimmy that passed through congress. If covid caused you to be unemployed, you file a claim and get your (states) unemployment + $300 for 52 weeks. Or thats how I interpreted it. I have been working all along so I have no fu*king clue. And when it hit my family and I couldn't work for 2 and a half weeks it was in October and all this sh*t stopped in September so I got almost nothing. Saw some free housing money for my state that they were trying to give out on the local news ads so I grabbed a grand of that.


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 1 month ago '21        #13
JayMurdoch  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 MacJokerJones said
Boot straps need to be pulled up lol
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 1 month ago '21        #14
Nus25 
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I quit my job and got a new one making bread installing solar panels and doing remodeling.
Ain't nobody trying be wage slave getting paid 20-27k a yr with rising COL and inflation getting worked to death with no benefits. While all these billionaires and multimillionaires are showing off their workers money .. FK THAT!! That ship has selled amigo.

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 1 month ago '06        #15
V For Vendetta 
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There's no labor shortage. Just a surplus of sh*tty jobs
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 1 month ago '18        #16
TheLuminousOne  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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QUIT YA DAY JOB 2022.....Start a business, run it that's a major key,
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 1 month ago '06        #17
daffysm 
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it will just cause companies to cut corners and work with less

lose-lose
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 1 month ago '11        #18
PotheadFocker  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 daffysm said
it will just cause companies to cut corners and work with less

lose-lose
Robots. Itís all planned

 1 month ago '16        #19
Wolfcastle 
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We told them this would happen!

 1 month ago '16        #20
00010111  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 daffysm said
it will just cause companies to cut corners and work with less

lose-lose
They been doing that...
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 1 month ago '20        #22
Bighempin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Pay folks more then you'll be crying about inflation. The game is rig... Once the little guy makes more then the powers that be find a way to increase the cost of living to basically keep the working poor the working poor
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 1 month ago '21        #23
Tlatoani  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 V For Vendetta said
There's no labor shortage. Just a surplus of sh*tty jobs
Bingo.

Companies got cash out the a*s for exec bonuses and stock buybacks and would rather spend to f*ght legislative efforts to improve conditions for workers.

They don't deserve to stay in business here. Take that sh*t to a 3rd world country.
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 1 month ago '07        #24
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 1 month ago '07        #25
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