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EU proposes mandatory USB-C on all devices including iPhones to reduce ewaste
 

 

The European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union, has announced plans to force smartphone and other electronics manufacturers to fit a common USB-C charging port on their devices. The proposal is likely to have the biggest impact on Apple, which continues to use its proprietary Lightning connector rather than the USB-C connector adopted by most of its competitors. The rules are intended to cut down on electronic waste by allowing people to re-use existing chargers and cables when they buy new electronics.

In addition to phones, the rules will apply to other devices like tablets, headphones, portable speakers, videogame consoles, and cameras. Manufacturers will also be forced to make their fast-charging standards interoperable, and to provide information to customers about what charging standards their device supports. Under the proposal, customers will be able to buy new devices without an included charger.

The proposals only cover devices using wired, not wireless, chargers, EU commissioner Thierry Breton said in a press conference, adding that “there is plenty of room for innovation on wireless.” A spokesperson for the Commission subsequently confirmed to The Verge that a USB-C port is only mandatory for devices that charge using a cable. But, if a device charges exclusively via wireless, like Apple’s rumored portless iPhone, there’d be no requirement for a USB-C charging port.

To become law, the revised Radio Equipment Directive proposal will need to pass a vote in the European Parliament. If adopted, manufacturers will eventually have 24 months to comply with the new rules. The parliament has already voted in favor of new rules on a common charger in early 2020, indicating that today’s proposal should have broad support.

“Chargers power all our most essential electronic devices. With more and more devices, more and more chargers are sold that are not interchangeable or not necessary. We are putting an end to that,” said commissioner Thierry Breton. “With our proposal, European consumers will be able to use a single charger for all their portable electronics – an important step to increase convenience and reduce waste.”

“European consumers were frustrated long enough about incompatible chargers piling up in their drawers. We gave industry plenty of time to come up with their own solutions, now time is ripe for legislative action for a common charger,” European Commission executive vice-president Margrethe Vestager said.

Today’s proposal is focused on the charging port on the device end, but the Commission says it eventually hopes to ensure “full interoperability” on both ends of the cable. The power supply end will be addressed in a review to be launched later this year.

The proposals follow a vote in the European Parliament in January 2020 when lawmakers voted for new rules on common chargers. As of 2016, the amount of electronic waste produced across the bloc amounted to around 12.3 million metric tons.

The biggest impact of the new rules is likely to be felt by Apple, which continues to ship phones with a Lightning connector as opposed to the increasingly universal USB-C port. As of 2018, around 29 percent of phone chargers sold in the EU used USB-C, 21 percent used Lightning, and around half used the older Micro USB standard, according to an EU a*sessment reported by Reuters. These proportions are likely to have shifted considerably as USB-C has replaced Micro USB across all but the least expensive Android phones.

Efforts to get smartphone manufacturers to use the same charging standard in the EU date back to at least 2009, when Apple, Samsung, Huawei, and Nokia signed a voluntary agreement to use a common standard. In the following years, the industry gradually adopted Micro USB and, more recently, USB-C as a common charging port. However, despite reducing the amount of charging standards from over 30 down to just three (Micro USB, USB-C, and Lightning), regulators have said this voluntary approach has fallen short of its objectives.

Apple was a notable outlier in that it never included a Micro USB port on its phones directly. Instead, it offered a Micro USB to 30-pin adapter.

Apple said it disagreed with today’s proposals in a statement. “We remain concerned that strict regulation mandating just one type of connector stifles innovation rather than encouraging it, which in turn will harm consumers in Europe and around the world,” a spokesperson from the company told Reuters. The company has also previously objected to the proposals because it says they risk creating e-waste by forcing people to throw out their existing Lightning accessories if they’re incompatible with the universal standard.

Although it’s continued to use Lightning, Apple has made its own efforts to reduce charger e-waste. Last year, it stopped shipping charging bricks or earbuds in the box with new iPhones and supplied them only with a Lightning to USB-C cable. However, the move was met with a mixed response, with some arguing that it helped Apple’s bottom line more than the environment.

While European lawmakers focus mainly on wired chargers, wireless charging is becoming increasingly popular across smartphones and has largely converged on a single cross-platform standard: Qi. There have even been rumors that Apple could ship an iPhone without a Lightning port and have it rely entirely on wireless charging for power.

Update Septeber 23rd, 9:22AM ET: Updated to note Breton’s comments about wireless chargers from Q&A, and confirmation that a completely wireless phone would not need to include USB-C. Also added comment from Apple.
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 1 month ago '11        #2
Anti  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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I understand it but if I was into product design, you can tell me how to design my sh*t?
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 1 month ago '21        #3
Keithf87 
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We WON
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 1 month ago '17        #4
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Apple will go 100% wireless charging most likely.
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 1 month ago '07        #5
strongthetruth  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 justin747 said
Apple will go 100% wireless charging most likely.
That's years down the line. Can't wirelessly charge Macbooks and iPads so it defeats the purpose of changing iPhone to wirelessly only. Next step is definitely USB-C for iPhones.
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 1 month ago '17        #6
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 strongthetruth said
That's years down the line. Can't wirelessly charge Macbooks and iPads so it defeats the purpose of changing iPhone to wirelessly only. Next step is definitely USB-C for iPhones.
MacBooks and iPads are already USB-C
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 1 month ago '07        #7
strongthetruth  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 justin747 said
MacBooks and iPads are already USB-C
I know that but iPhones aren't. iPads just became USB-C last year for the Air and the Pro the year before. They're not switching to all wireless anytime soon.
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 1 month ago '17        #8
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 strongthetruth said
I know that but iPhones aren't. iPads just became USB-C last year for the Air and the Pro the year before. They're not switching to all wireless anytime soon.
$100 bet that the iPhone goes wireless before USB-C

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 1 month ago '07        #9
strongthetruth  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 justin747 said
$100 bet that the iPhone goes wireless before USB-C

Bro even if I win I don't need $100 lol. Apple is all about cohesiveness. Also a lot of people still manually backup and transfer files from their iPhones to their PC and Macs. And on top of all of that iPhones wireless charges slow af.
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 1 month ago '17        #10
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 strongthetruth said
Bro even if I win I don't need $100 lol. Apple is all about cohesiveness. Also a lot of people still manually backup and transfer files from their iPhones to their PC and Macs. And on top of all of that iPhones wireless charges slow af.


Nobody connects their iPhone to their laptops to do data transfers. That's what iCloud is for. Also the iPhone wireless data transfer a*sistant is 1000x better than connecting to a laptop.

Apple will go fully portless on the next iPhone if forced, then make their wireless chargers compatible with USB-C.
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 1 month ago '21        #11
nocomment  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Anti said
I understand it but if I was into product design, you can tell me how to design my sh*t?
the fu*king retardation in this country I fu*king swear...every other plug in your fu*king house is the same, 2 prong or 3 prong into your fu*king outlet...fu*king dense
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 1 month ago '07        #12
ptwist  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 strongthetruth said
That's years down the line. Can't wirelessly charge Macbooks and iPads so it defeats the purpose of changing iPhone to wirelessly only. Next step is definitely USB-C for iPhones.
Pretty annoying they went all in on this for their Macs and now iPads and holding off their iPhone.

Wish it was all one plug and I don't have to worry which cord fits in which charging block. I travel a lot for work, and it's a pain to sort through all the cords. Not a fan of wireless charging either since they cap the wattage and it charges slower.

I would've considered the iPhone 13 a little more than a decent upgrade had they went that route and made their line cohesive with USB-C.
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 1 month ago '16        #13
Eastcoast 
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 Anti said
I understand it but if I was into product design, you can tell me how to design my sh*t?
You might If you wanted access to the largest economy in the world.
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 1 month ago '15        #14
Truthseeker007 
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Samsung wireless charging, with my backup USB-C plug and adapter in the whip checking in.




Apple still following in the footstep of good ole Sammy. Proprietary plus need to die. This along with the "right to repair argument" can only help consumers gain more ownership over what we actually spend our money on. I like how the EU regulates corporations. Put their foot on their rich as necks.
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 1 month ago '20        #15
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Hallelujah
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 1 month ago '05        #16
Soprano ATL  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 nocomment said
the fu*king retardation in this country I fu*king swear...every other plug in your fu*king house is the same, 2 prong or 3 prong into your fu*king outlet...fu*king dense
Did you know in Europe they don’t use those same plugs?
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 1 month ago '21        #17
nocomment  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Soprano ATL said
Did you know in Europe they don’t use those same plugs?
I see we playing dumb today

 1 month ago '17        #18
Mario Chalmers  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 strongthetruth said
Bro even if I win I don't need $100 lol. Apple is all about cohesiveness. Also a lot of people still manually backup and transfer files from their iPhones to their PC and Macs. And on top of all of that iPhones wireless charges slow af.
Lol no one does that bro. I was just laughing with my boy the other day talking about “remember when we use to have to hook our iPhones up to our computer just to add a new song?” Lmao

That being said, usb-c is definitely the better choice. I love my usb c port on my iPad Pro. So versatile.
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 1 month ago '19        #19
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 justin747 said
$100 bet that the iPhone goes wireless before USB-C

I'll take that bet

 1 month ago '17        #20
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 ym7171yea said
I'll take that bet
Deal
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 1 month ago '05        #21
Soprano ATL  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 nocomment said
I see we playing dumb today
I just thought it was ironic that your example for a “standard”, when in a topic discussing product compatibility with Europe, was something that is 100% not a standard and is completely different in Europe.

 1 month ago '20        #22
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 1 month ago '11        #23
CALViiiN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x26
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idgaf what they do. just keep the beast battery consistent.

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 1 month ago '20        #24
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 justin747 said
$100 bet that the iPhone goes wireless before USB-C

Wireless charging waste power

 1 month ago '17        #25
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Xiox said
Wireless charging waste power
It doesn't matter. They ain't putting USB-C on an iPhone. Not globally

They'll keep using lightning here and everywhere else, then Europe will use wireless chargers that are USB-C



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