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Why many 60s-70s NBA players don't crossover or display "handles" (stricter palming calls)



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 1 month ago '13        #1
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Why many 60s-70s NBA players don't crossover or display "handles" (stricter palming calls)
 

 
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The palming (also known as the carry) call. Every ISO play or display of "good handles" from the past 20 years has heavily depended on players being allowed to"palm" the ball - something that used to be illegal in basketball but was gradually phased out to make the game more visually dynamic. This is why players back then looked a little stiff when dribbling, their limited display of dribbling moves has absolutely nothing to do with their skills or talents - they just had to follow a different set of rules.

Touching the side of the ball while dribbling - that's basically palming. Players back then could touch only the top of the ball with their palms facing straight down. Putting your hands on the side of the ball to sharply alter its trajectory resulted in a turnover called palming. Today every player does this almost all the time even bringing the ball up court - and esp doing it on ISO plays. That's why players "handles" look so vastly superior today. They have more freedom to control the ball.





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 1 month ago '10        #2
trill jackson  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x35
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when the nba realized they were in the entertainment business and realized slick ball handling got oohs and aahs from the seats, for the sake of the almighty dollar they told them refs to overlook a couple things
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 1 month ago '09        #3
MakaveliToDon91  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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OP your first video consisted of one example. Do better
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 1 month ago '13        #4
boopityboop  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1 OP
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 MakaveliToDon91 said
OP your first video consisted of one example. Do better
First the Lebron thread, now here? You really are a fan.



 1 month ago '13        #5
boopityboop  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1 OP
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 trill jackson said
when the nba realized they were in the entertainment business and realized slick ball handling got oohs and aahs from the seats, for the sake of the almighty dollar they told them refs to overlook a couple things
Money talks!

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 1 month ago '19        #6
SuperPawgHunter  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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Nothing wrong with rule bending to some degree, as long as you're not walking as bad as Lebron, for instance.
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 1 month ago '18        #7
HoopLife88 
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Glad the game evolved.
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 1 month ago '06        #8
philly337  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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I remember they used to get on ai and call it a carry...cant remember the last time I heard somebody calling a carry in the nba
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 1 month ago '04        #9
D1nOnlyMrM@  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Paul George and kyrie wouldn't be able to dribble
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 1 month ago '11        #10
greedy87 
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What’s up with this weird obsession you bi*ch n*ggas got with tryna sh*t on current NBA players? sh*t is weird
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 1 month ago '04        #11
TizOnly1 
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Is this new to anyone?

NBA has relaxed rules on ballhandlers in every way imaginable.. and keep going further and further.

I watch games now, and it's a carry damn near every play. Every "hesi" I see in game would have been called a carry even just 10-15 years ago. The game keeps changing.. but honestly idk how defenders are expected to stop anyone at all these days.
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 1 month ago '09        #12
ahmadou1  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Pistol pete actually used to do a lot of the crossing over n sh*t that guys do today.
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 1 month ago '09        #13
ahmadou1  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 philly337 said
I remember they used to get on ai and call it a carry...cant remember the last time I heard somebody calling a carry in the nba
Yea Iverson the reason they stopped calling it.
The rule was your hand couldn't get under the ball, so his stayed on the side of the ball, and it was a bit of a grey area.
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 1 month ago '20        #14
Columbo 
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A prime Jordan could easily average 40 to 45 points a game in todays league. During the offseason i watch alot of old games from the 80s and 90s. Of course its natural to be biased towards your own generation but as soon as you grow out of that you see how much better past eras were
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Top 10 most slapped recently  1 month ago '21        #15
outstanding  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x46
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Lol
The Knicks got rid of braz after he was out there dribbling like Bob Cousy

 1 month ago '16        #16
AgentOrange 
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AI would had problems playing in that era. They would had called carry on him every time he dribbled.
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 1 month ago '05        #17
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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sam,e fu*kin idiots who call muggsey bogues the greatest athelete in NBA history prolly made this thread

 1 month ago '05        #18
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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back in the day they carried the ball too.. it was done more subtely u were taught to control the ball with mainly ur thumb and ur pinkey, which hides the turning the ball over appearance best it can, rather than what we see today with just the whole palm as blatant as it gets.


If u have kids ur trying to teach to dribble still teach them to control the ball with the pinky n thumb, its the way for people who dont have nba player sized hands.


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 1 month ago '05        #19
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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that clip of kd in slow motion is all op needed to post imo..

 1 month ago '10        #20
REG773 
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 AgentOrange said
AI would had problems playing in that era. They would had called carry on him every time he dribbled.
No; he would’ve adjusted n still been faster, quicker and more explosive than anyone else than everybody else

 1 month ago '05        #21
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 greedy87 said
What’s up with this weird obsession you bi*ch n*ggas got with tryna sh*t on current NBA players? sh*t is weird
the people on this site dont fu*king like basketball or sports they like sensationalized garbage shock value titles, cuz their too stupid to know any better.

u new around here?

These people dont care about journalism, they literally try to twist the narratives over their fu*king local sports favoritisms... its fu*king imbeciles out here pissing in the wind.. amateur hour.

the other sections of this forum are fu*king long dead.. the losers who used to try n bait people into their sh*tty threads elsewhere failed, n conceeded, n have taken their act to the only part of this forum that ppl read.

the result is 250lb 5'5" cant even touch the bottom of the net a*s fools running around talking sh*t about peoples skills whove been training their whole lives

 1 month ago '05        #22
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 greedy87 said
What’s up with this weird obsession you bi*ch n*ggas got with tryna sh*t on current NBA players? sh*t is weird
Their father figure Kobe Bryant got himself n his daughter k*lled n this is how they cope..
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 1 month ago '05        #23
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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The narratives around here are by know it alls, for know it alls.

n meanwhile both sides of the equation r just sitting there impressed with themselves, meanwhile yall dont know sh*t.,..... and constantly are demonstrating u dont know sh*t about the topics at hand, yall know what the next man on twitter says n not much more....

compared to someone such as myself, who oddly enough is just trying to learn more..

there's so many know-it-alls on this forum just trying to make some stupid a*s joke.. yall r pathetic... n yall aint even funny too.. buncha 'i need props to make jokes like carrot top' pansy a*ses running round here..

sitting there photoshopping another grown mans face for 1000x days in a row

yall fu*king 'artwork' is trash, linework trash, anatomy trash, values trash, looks like some sh*t i could teach my 8 year odl neice to make in 45 mins or less..

its funny how fu*king easily impressed yall know it alls truly are, thats how i know yall dont know sh*t..


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 1 month ago '05        #24
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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the quintessential BXSC thread is "im unimpressed with skill"

whats impressive to people around here is getting into a f*ght on the court

a sucker punch like kermit washington.. a butchered female with all sorts of obvious augmentations, now thats impressive!

the thought of "this isnt how it really was but im going to convince others thats h ow it was" ---- now that is super duper fu*king impressive to yall... look at how many 1000's of attempts we see at that... this thread is one of those..


yall are impressed by stupid sh*t

yall fu*king think that leaving an impression on impressionable people is impressive.... its not! it's fu*king easy n yall r the ones who have rededicated ur lives n minds to pushing this trash --- n yall just get a penny off the top, yall makin others much more than u make for urselves.. buncha Mr. Smithers walkin round here actin like they Mr. Burns.


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 1 month ago '05        #25
Bx_Bomberz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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didnt Snuggle used to have an ad campaign with the bear talking about Quality over Quantity?




whats seen on this forum, is the stupidity that comes from quantity being pushed over quality, n also the years of wear n tear this has on the mind for those wrapped up into these news cycles..



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