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Sep 20 - U.S. known death toll from COVID-19 will soon surpass deaths from the Spanish Flu
 

 

The U.S.’ known death toll from COVID-19 will surpass the number of dead from the Spanish Flu within the next day or two, according to the side-by-side numbers – though a direct comparison between the raw numbers doesn’t give the whole story, medical experts and statisticians say.

What is clear is that the sheer numbers, given the modern-day tools that combat such illnesses, are a heavy burden.

COVID-related U.S. deaths as of Sunday night are at 673,763, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

That’s just over 1,200 fewer than died in the 1918 Spanish Flu, which took an estimated 675,000 lives in the U.S.

Before this, that flu pandemic was the most lethal since the United States was formed.

With an 1,800-per-day death average, the number who’ve died of COVID could surpass the previous scourge by Monday.

There are differences between the two scenarios.

In 1918, the U.S. population was just over 100 million, whereas it’s 330 million today, as The Washington Post points out.

That makes our death rate one in 500 Americans as opposed to the 1918 toll of one in 150.

Globally, the number is 4.7 million dead so far, which is much lower than the worldwide 50 million who died in 1918 and 1919 from the Spanish flu, as Fortune noted.

But unlike the two-year period that the Spanish flu ravaged humanity’s ranks, COVID is not even close to quitting.

“The fact that deaths surged at the end of 2020, nine months after the pandemic reached the United States, with the highest daily death tolls in early January 2021, is perhaps the most discouraging comparison to the historical record,” Virginia Tech historian E. Thomas Ewing told The Washington Post.

“We ignored the lessons of 1918, and then we disregarded warnings issued in the first months of this pandemic. We will never know how many lives could have been saved if we had taken this threat more seriously.”
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 1 month ago '05        #2
POSITIVITY  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x59
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But but it’s just a cold

Dummies @ @
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 1 month ago '17        #3
Lazy 
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Technically we already did since deaths are under reported and estimated to be triple this amount
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 1 month ago '15        #4
Philly dude 
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 Lazy said
Technically we already did since deaths are under reported and estimated to be triple this amount
Under reported? People that weren't tested were counted as covid deaths.
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 1 month ago '13        #5
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 EMPATHY said
But but it’s just a cold

Dummies @ @
LIterally nobody believes that

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 1 month ago '11        #6
0ddJoB 
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None of the deaths that were falsely reported as covid deaths were reversed
So the numbers will forever be cooked
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 1 month ago '04        #7
Real 
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 EMPATHY said
But but it’s just a cold

Dummies @ @
Facts don't matter to these weirdos.

Everytime their lies and bullsh*t get exposed they just fall back on the claim that every doctor/nurse/scientist/hospital must be lying
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 1 month ago '13        #8
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Real said
Facts don't matter to these weirdos.
WHeres the facts? It's literally just numbers on a screen


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 1 month ago '18        #9
Killakaine2525 
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Cuz they didn’t have mother Teresa aka dr fu*ksee lol


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 1 month ago '07        #10
JamcnPrettyboy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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Well..... population today is also much larger. There was like 100mil Americans around that time.

That 675k is much more alarming to that population size than it would be 330mil
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 1 month ago '20        #11
BuiltForThis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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The sh*t y’all be doin since y’all ain’t get your 2.2 million dead in the USA by August 2020

@ @

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 1 month ago '20        #12
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 JamcnPrettyboy said
Well..... population today is also much larger. There was like 100mil Americans around that time.

That 675k is much more alarming to that population size than it would be 330mil
Plus the average ages of death and time between infections and death.


Influenza > the Wuhan


Last edited by BuiltForThis; 09-20-2021 at 08:06 AM..
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 1 month ago '05        #13
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 BuiltForThis said
The sh*t y’all be doin since y’all ain’t get your 2.2 million dead in the USA by August 2020

@ @

Why do you keep tagging me like I cheer for deaths .. I wish no one to pass from this trump virus… but we didn’t handle it like New Zealand showed us
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 1 month ago '21        #14
Fras 
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 Lazy said
Technically we already did since deaths are under reported and estimated to be triple this amount
deaths are wildly over-reported. WTF are you even talking about? Do you know how deaths are calculated?

deaths for Influenza are more than the Spanish Flu, but no one wants to talk about that. They count Influenza deaths seasonally...not "all time death count" like they do with Covid.

The way we cound covid deaths is totally absurd and not accurate.
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 1 month ago '19        #15
zzxxccvvbb 
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 Philly dude said
Under reported? People that weren't tested were counted as covid deaths.
Estimates a common part of medical stats

Look at how flue deaths are calculated
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 1 month ago '17        #16
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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But what about natural immunity?

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 1 month ago '21        #17
Fras 
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 zzxxccvvbb said
Estimates a common part of medical stats

Look at how flue deaths are calculated
Do you know anything about PCR and its testing, and how inaccurate it is, and how many false positives occur? in some cases the false positive rate is 50%.

I'd really love to have this conversation with someone because lots of people have no idea what they're talking about in regards to covid deaths.
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 1 month ago '20        #18
BuiltForThis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 Naga Sadow said
But what about natural immunity?

What about y’all injections?


If one version of inoculation don’t work neither does the other.

Plus them injections don’t prevent infections or symptoms of a respiratory virus that’s already over 99.5% survivable.

And before y’all “it’s may prevent hospitalization and deaths” people already on they 3rd injections.
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 1 month ago '19        #19
zzxxccvvbb 
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 Fras said
Do you know anything about PCR and its testing, and how inaccurate it is, and how many false positives occur? in some cases the false positive rate is 50%.

I'd really love to have this conversation with someone because lots of people have no idea what they're talking about in regards to covid deaths.
So if PCR tests misreported tons of flu cases as COVID and there are way more deaths that year wouldn't that mean that COVID is even deadlier through simple math?
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 1 month ago '17        #20
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 Fras said
deaths are wildly over-reported. WTF are you even talking about? Do you know how deaths are calculated?

deaths for Influenza are more than the Spanish Flu, but no one wants to talk about that. They count Influenza deaths seasonally...not "all time death count" like they do with Covid.

The way we cound covid deaths is totally absurd and not accurate.
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 1 month ago '13        #21
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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They hate trump but love his vaccines

LIterally ran to stand in line to get jabbed with a live virus

Yall hated trump, he hates yall too


 1 month ago '05        #22
POSITIVITY  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x59
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Oh great the idiot fras is here

 1 month ago '05        #23
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 THEDONN said
They hate trump but love his vaccines

LIterally ran to stand in line to get jabbed with a live virus

Yall hated trump, he hates yall too

U hate meat but suk dik daily

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 1 month ago '13        #24
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 EMPATHY said
U hate meat but suk dik daily

"thats so corny"

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 1 month ago '21        #25
Fras 
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 zzxxccvvbb said
So if PCR tests misreported tons of flu cases as COVID and there are way more deaths that year wouldn't that mean that COVID is even deadlier through simple math?
No. Based on what I've researched I don't believe so.

Here's why.

1. Every dead person is tested for covid ok? Doesn't matter how they died. ATV accident, Heart Attack, bullet to the head. If they posthumously test positive for covid, their death is listed as covid death, NO MATTER WHAT. That is indisputable fact. Doctors have said this during press conferences.

2. The PCR test can be changed. The threshold of when it comes up as positves can be changed right? They changed the threshold cycles.

From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):

For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.

Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even Fauci himself said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).

But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.
Secondly, asymptomatic or mild infections will no longer be recorded as “covid cases”.

That’s right. Even if a sample collected at the low CT value of 28 can be sequenced into the virus alleged to cause Covid19, the CDC will no longer be keeping records of breakthrough infections that don’t result in hospitalisation or death.

From their website:

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. Previous case counts, which were last updated on April 26, 2021, are available for reference only and will not be updated moving forward.

Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.

The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.

Consider…

Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a “covid case”.

Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.

Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.

The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it. To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.

PCR tests can be up to 50% false positives. if you're alive, they sometimes will re-test you to confirm its accuracy. If your first test is positive (If you're alive) they will test you again. If both tests come back as positive, that counts as TWO CASES in your state, even though you are just one person.

If you're dead, and test positive, they don't retest. They list you as a covid death and thats final. I can post a video of Dr.Birx stating that this is how America keeps track of deaths.

We are being played.



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