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Sep 18 - What Happens to Army Soldiers Who Refuse the COVID Vaccine?
 

 
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Soldiers have limited options to refuse the COVID-19 vaccine, and may have a hard time claiming an exemption if they have never protested a dozen-plus other vaccines the Defense Department mandates for all troops, according to new Army guidelines.

Punishments for troops, especially senior leaders, who steadfastly refuse without an exemption could include discharge.

The Army on Tuesday issued a service-wide directive on vaccine mandates, the last service branch to do so. But it has mandated the slowest timeline within the military, giving soldiers a long window to be inoculated.

Its active-duty troops have until Dec. 15 to be vaccinated, while the Air Force and Space Force issued a Nov. 2 deadline. Marines and sailors have until Nov. 28. Meanwhile, soldiers in the Army National Guard and Reserve have until June 30, 2022, to get inoculated, a full half-year longer than any other reserve service. Air National Guard members must be vaccinated by Dec. 2.

"Given the size, scale and geographic dispersal of the National Guard workforce, we understand it will take additional time to develop an implementation plan that would be most feasible for fully vaccinating our personnel," Christina Mundy, a National Guard Bureau spokesperson, wrote in an email.

A total of 1.1 million troops are already fully vaccinated against the virus, which has infected more than 238,000 service members and k*lled 46, according to the Pentagon's latest update.

It remains unclear whether some service members still may refuse to take the shot after Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered mandatory vaccinations in August. The Pentagon has said the requirement is considered a lawful order by the military.

Vaccination Refusal


Soldiers who refuse could face "administrative or non-judicial punishment [under the Uniform Code of Military Justice] -- to include relief of duties or discharge," according to the new Army guidelines obtained by Military.com.

Administrative action includes initiating what is called a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand, or GOMOR, for all refusals without an allowed exemption. The reprimand is widely seen as a military career k*ller but can, under certain circumstances, be tossed from a soldier's record.

All judicial action will be launched by colonels in a soldier's chain of command, or a general in units without a colonel.

Soldiers who have pending decisions on medical or religious exemptions will not face any adverse action.

As a first step in the process, soldiers who refuse will be formally counseled, effectively creating a paper trail for leaders to show they discussed a topic with a soldier. The Army already has issued a template for units.

Then, the service requires that they watch an educational video from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explaining the science behind the vaccines.


If the soldier continues to refuse, they will "meet with a medical professional to further discuss the benefits of vaccination and address the soldier's concerns," according to the Army documents. Continued refusal will prompt the soldier's commander to consult with the Judge Advocate General's Corps, the legal arm of the Army.

That process can lead to discharge. "Commanders will initiate mandatory separation of soldiers who refuse the vaccine," the Army warned.

Religious Exemptions


Two vaccine exemptions are available, but it is unlikely either will be approved if soldiers making the request have not already refused other mandatory vaccines required by the military, such as smallpox, influenza and hepatitis.

Receiving a religious exemption also could be an uphill battle after major religious institutions and leaders have supported the vaccine on moral grounds to save lives.

Soldiers claiming a religious exemption will be interviewed by an Army chaplain, who will "assess the basis and sincerity of belief" behind the objections and write a memo to the chain of command.

After meeting with a chaplain, the soldier will be ordered to meet with a medical official, who will "counsel the soldier to ensure they are making an informed decision on risk."

Medical Exemptions & Pregnant Women


Medical exemptions may be given to soldiers with legitimate health concerns backed by medical professionals. For example, soldiers who had adverse reactions to previous vaccines may be excused from future shots.

However, adverse reactions, such as heart inflammation, are incredibly rare.

Those seeking a medical exemption still will be counseled by their commander and referred to a medical professional for evaluation.

Exemptions may be temporary, given for up to a year, or permanent, according to the Army documents. An Army medical professional will decide whether a soldier's medical concerns are valid; if so, that will be documented in the service member's medical records.

Pregnant soldiers may seek a waiver to delay their vaccine until after pregnancy, after meeting with a health care provider. But Army documents note, “Getting a vaccine could help both mother and the fetus. Pregnant women have a higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19 than nonpregnant women.”

The American College of Obstetrics & Gynecologists says there is no evidence of adverse effects of the vaccine on pregnant women or their babies. Meanwhile, there is emerging evidence that unvaccinated women are at risk of having a stillbirth after contracting COVID-19.

Senior Leaders Face Quick Action If They Refuse


There is very little wiggle room for senior Army leaders in the service's new guidelines.

Commanders, sergeants major, first sergeants and other senior officers who refuse the vaccine order and don't have a pending exemption decision "will be suspended ... provided a reasonable period not to exceed five calendar days to respond, and then be subject to relief of their duties," the Army documents say.

"I believe accountability starts with Leaders -- you cannot lead Soldiers by disobeying lawful orders," the force's top enlisted leader, Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Grinston, said Tuesday on Twitter.






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 1 month ago '13        #2
SimpinAintEz 
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These conservative Republican MAGATS all the sudden want to claim religious exemption but “they have never protested a dozen-plus other vaccines the Defense Department mandates for all troops”. Good luck with that soldier.
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Notice people staying away from this thread
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 1 month ago '15        #4
Belief 
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Dummies be talking about “magats” when a wide variety of people don’t want the vaccine, as if only one single group of Americans aren’t vaccinated

A Trump vaccine nonetheless


Confused sheep
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 1 month ago '13        #5
SimpinAintEz 
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 Belief said
Dummies be talking about “magats” when a wide variety of people don’t want the vaccine, as if only one single group of Americans aren’t vaccinated

A Trump vaccine nonetheless


Confused sheep
Stop being passive aggressive, summon some courage, and address me directly instead throwing rocks behind my back pu**y.

It’s no secret that the predominant anti-vax population is that of conservative Republicans drunk on conspiracy and Trump’s every word.

I detect a hit dog hollering.
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 1 month ago '15        #6
Belief 
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Mask up

 1 month ago '12        #7
Di Warlord 
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contractor here, I know a few of my coworkers are already talking about quitting since the vaccine will be mandatory for civilians deploying alongside the military (which only makes sense, most contractors are out of shape and/or old, plus deployed locations are not the place to get very sick from covid at).

I want them to quit when this sh*t comes down less Trumpers to work with that always start their political conversations with "did you hear that the Democrats..."
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 1 month ago '13        #8
SimpinAintEz 
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 1 month ago '18        #9
Lord God  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x14
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They're getting it or getting out. Those that leave will have to payback any active bonus too.
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 1 month ago '17        #10
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 Di Warlord said
contractor here, I know a few of my coworkers are already talking about quitting since the vaccine will be mandatory for civilians deploying alongside the military (which only makes sense, most contractors are out of shape and/or old, plus deployed locations are not the place to get very sick from covid at).

I want them to quit when this sh*t comes down less Trumpers to work with that always start their political conversations with "did you hear that the Democrats..."
 BackAtItAgain said
sent home loss of benefits go bag groceries for a few months then blow your head off

bred and raised and trained to take orders but then decide NOW is the time to ignore a direct order?
goodbye
 SimpinAintEz said
Stop being passive aggressive, summon some courage, and address me directly instead throwing rocks behind my back pu**y.

It’s no secret that the predominant anti-vax population is that of conservative Republicans drunk on conspiracy and Trump’s every word.

I detect a hit dog hollering.



Can I ask y'all a question?... if you don't mind appeasing a conspiracy minded weirdo:

Will you get the mark, I mean digital vaccine certificate when they release it? Its on the WHO's website, but I know some people can't bring themselves to believe such conspiracies...so : hypothetically speaking, would you let them chip you like a house cat with all your vax info, money, and ID information on one digital chip?



...for your own safety of course... cause we're all in this together.. you would allow that?











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 1 month ago '20        #11
BuiltForThis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 TheLastNonEarth said


Can I ask y'all a question?... if you don't mind appeasing a conspiracy minded weirdo:

Will you get the mark, I mean digital vaccine certificate when they release it? Its on the WHO's website, but I know some people can't bring themselves to believe such conspiracies...so : hypothetically speaking, would you let them chip you like a house cat with all your vax info, money, and ID information on one digital chip?



...for your own safety of course... cause we're all in this together.. you would allow that?















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 1 month ago '04        #12
erickonasis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Punishment should be they are still allowed to serve but only In Afghanistan
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 1 month ago '17        #13
TheLastNonEarth  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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 BuiltForThis said


Tin foils up 100 points




 1 month ago '13        #14
SimpinAintEz 
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 TheLastNonEarth said


Can I ask y'all a question?... if you don't mind appeasing a conspiracy minded weirdo:

Will you get the mark, I mean digital vaccine certificate when they release it? Its on the WHO's website, but I know some people can't bring themselves to believe such conspiracies...so : hypothetically speaking, would you let them chip you like a house cat with all your vax info, money, and ID information on one digital chip?



...for your own safety of course... cause we're all in this together.. you would allow that?












“Will you get the mark”

Stop with the conspiritard religious zealot fear mongering. Absolutely NOWHERE in the WHO literature provided did it ever state anything about them chipping people like house cats.

They’re talking about having digital records in place of unreliable and easy to lose paper records.

My military medical records used to literally be a big green binder full of paper records that were routinely misplaced/ mishandled. They’ve all gone digital now, although I can and do still request a paper trail for my personal record. What the WHO is suggesting is no different.

You’d think, with all your posting of their info, that you would have actually read it. I think you rely on dooping people with your fear-mongering preamble and hope that people don’t actually read the facts.
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 1 month ago '20        #15
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 TheLastNonEarth said
Tin foils up 100 points



It’s even called the Great Reset and these injection taking Wuhan Karen dipsh*ts gives no fu*ks.

That’s how scared of this common cold they are.

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 1 month ago '17        #16
TheLastNonEarth  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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 SimpinAintEz said
“Will you get the mark”

Stop with the conspiritard religious zealot fear mongering. Absolutely NOWHERE in the WHO literature provided did it ever state anything about them chipping people like house cats.

They’re talking about having digital records in place of unreliable and easy to lose paper records.

My military medical records used to literally be a big green binder full of paper records that were routinely misplaced/ mishandled. They’ve all gone digital now, although I can and do still request a paper trail for my personal record. What the WHO is suggesting is no different.

You’d think, with all your posting of their info, that you would have actually read it. I think you rely on dooping people with your fear-mongering preamble and hope that people don’t actually read the facts.
Sorry. Didn't mean to offend you


Remember, I was simply asking a hypothetical question. Sure, it'll start as a QR code on the phone...but maybe for convenience they can just inject it under your finger or in your forehead. Based on your answer, I'd a*sume you'd say yes to a chlp under your right paw for safety reasons.

Thanks for the reply
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 1 month ago '06        #17
LeMar G 
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They get every other vaccine

Hold that L and get discharged

UPS is hiring

You didnt need that hellcat anyway
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 1 month ago '04        #18
Mega 
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You don't own your body when you join the military. You have to get everything from rabies to hepatitis.

Now you're against vaccines?
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 1 month ago '20        #19
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 LeMar G said
They get every other vaccine

Hold that L and get discharged

UPS is hiring

You didnt need that hellcat anyway
What was the total number of injections you was told before you first to be labeled “fully vaccinated?”




And where are these long term studies on those total number of injections?




Ostracizing ndividuals not will to partake as lab rats for these experimental injections.


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 1 month ago '11        #20
0ddJoB 
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 LeMar G said
They get every other vaccine

Hold that L and get discharged

UPS is hiring

You didnt need that hellcat anyway
What's wrong with drawing the line?

Yeah we take all the other ones. But the research is out there. And some people don't want to do it.

Should be simple as that. Not political fuel
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 1 month ago '20        #21
BuiltForThis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 Mega said
You don't own your body when you join the military. You have to get everything from rabies to hepatitis.

Now you're against vaccines?
Can you list these experimental injections that have been mandated for the military?

Since when has taking experimental injections been a prerequisite for military service?

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 1 month ago '15        #22
felony625 
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 BuiltForThis said
Can you list these experimental injections that have been mandated for the military?

Since when has taking experimental injections been a prerequisite for military service?

George washington did it in the revolutionary war
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 1 month ago '06        #23
LeMar G 
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 0ddJoB said
What's wrong with drawing the line?

Yeah we take all the other ones. But the research is out there. And some people don't want to do it.

Should be simple as that. Not political fuel
Drawing the line for what?

Viruses aren't political

This has nothing to do with politics and just stupidity
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 1 month ago '20        #24
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 felony625 said
George washington did it in the revolutionary war
That’s false.

The first vaccine for smallpox wasn’t available until 1798.


Smallpox had/has an infection to death rate of 30% plus.


What they did was inoculate those who were not already infected.

An inculcation practice that was common.

The practice of infecting the individual with a less-deadly form of the disease was widespread throughout Europe.




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 1 month ago '06        #25
LeMar G 
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 BuiltForThis said
What was the total number of injections you was told before you first to be labeled “fully vaccinated?”




And where are these long term studies on those total number of injections?




Ostracizing ndividuals not will to partake as lab rats for these experimental injections.
The long term effects of mRNA?

Something that has been studied and researched for decades?

You didn't know viruses mutated before covid?

The real issue is the pure lack of knowledge and intellect that takes place with antivaxxers

Lots of questions that have already been answered

Lots of misinformation from social media

It's a shame really
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