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Aug 5 - Surveillance State: Apple plans to scan US iPhones for child abuse imagery
 

 
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Apple intends to install software on American iPhones to scan for child abuse imagery, according to people briefed on its plans, raising alarm among security researchers who warn that it could open the door to surveillance of millions of people’s personal devices.

Apple detailed its proposed system — known as “neuralMatch” — to some US academics earlier this week, according to two security researchers briefed on the virtual meeting. The plans could be publicised more widely as soon as this week, they said.

The automated system would proactively alert a team of human reviewers if it believes illegal imagery is detected, who would then contact law enforcement if the material can be verified. The scheme will initially roll out only in the US.

Apple declined to comment.

The proposals are Apple’s attempt to find a compromise between its own promise to protect customers’ privacy and ongoing demands from governments, law enforcement agencies and child safety campaigners for more a*sistance in criminal investigations, including terrorism and child pr0nography.

The tension between tech companies such as Apple and Facebook, which have defended their increasing use of encryption in their products and services, and law enforcement has only intensified since the iPhone maker went to court with the FBI in 2016 over access to a terror suspect’s iPhone following a shooting in San Bernardino, California.

Security researchers, while supportive of efforts to combat child abuse, are concerned that Apple risks enabling governments around the world to seek access to their citizens’ personal data, potentially far beyond its original intent.

“It is an absolutely appalling idea, because it is going to lead to distributed bulk surveillance of . . . our phones and laptops,” said Ross Anderson, professor of security engineering at the University of Cambridge.

Although the system is currently trained to spot child s*x abuse, it could be adapted to scan for any other targeted imagery and text, for instance, terror behe*dings or anti-government signs at protests, say researchers. Apple’s precedent could also increase pressure on other tech companies to use similar techniques.

“This will break the dam — governments will demand it from everyone,” said Matthew Green, a security professor at Johns Hopkins University, who is believed to be the first researcher to post a tweet about the issue.

Alec Muffett, a security researcher and privacy campaigner who formerly worked at Facebook and Deliveroo, said Apple’s move was “tectonic” and a “huge and regressive step for individual privacy”.

“Apple are walking back privacy to enable 1984,” he said.

Cloud-based photo storage systems and social networking sites already scan for child abuse imagery, but that process becomes more complex when trying to access data stored on a personal device.

Apple’s system is less invasive in that the screening is done on the phone, and “only if there is a match is notification sent back to those searching”, said Alan Woodward, a computer security professor at the University of Surrey. “This decentralised approach is about the best approach you could adopt if you do go down this route.”

Apple’s neuralMatch algorithm will continuously scan photos that are stored on a US user’s iPhone and have also been uploaded to its iCloud back-up system. Users’ photos, converted into a string of numbers through a process known as “hashing”, will be compared with those on a database of known images of child s*xual abuse.

The system has been trained on 200,000 s*x abuse images collected by the US non-profit National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

According to people briefed on the plans, every photo uploaded to iCloud in the US will be given a “safety voucher” saying whether it is suspect or not. Once a certain number of photos are marked as suspect, Apple will enable all the suspect photos to be decrypted and, if apparently illegal, passed on to the relevant authorities.


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 2 months ago '18        #2
SFamilyRep  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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This isn’t good in anyway and I’m against child abuse


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 2 months ago '05        #3
Sizzler01  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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apple doesnt really care about child abuse...
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 2 months ago '17        #4
S PHX GOD 
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the scan system is based on Belief..
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 2 months ago '05        #5
Tha TC  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Welp, weirdos beware on one hand but they’re gonna go hunting fo all kinds of newds. What if you’re changing a diaper or something and that photo sets it off idk

Edit second thought fu*k nah
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 2 months ago '17        #6
Mr Scaramucci  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x163 OP
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 2 months ago '06        #7
bigkilla  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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I thought they were doing this already? I remember reading about it a while back pre-pandemic.

Either way it’s terrible.. they’re gonna be checking every photo on every phone out there.

 2 months ago '20        #8
I Know  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 bigkilla said
I thought they were doing this already? I remember reading about it a while back pre-pandemic.

Either way it’s terrible.. they’re gonna be checking every photo on every phone out there.
Cloud-based photo storage systems and social networking sites already scan for child abuse imagery, but that process becomes more complex when trying to access data stored on a personal device.



Sending anything over Cloud is fair game and already done.

And the creepers/pedos ect ect probably made/ found some loophole that the Feds / government are unable to access easily.
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 2 months ago '20        #9
LordGimmeASign 
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I'm all for the war against child abuse but I'd like for Apple to call out the big wigs that are in higher up social classes for that pedophilia/ephebophilia ish too. We haven't forgotten...
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 2 months ago '06        #10
bigkilla  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 I Know said
Cloud-based photo storage systems and social networking sites already scan for child abuse imagery, but that process becomes more complex when trying to access data stored on a personal device.



Sending anything over Cloud is fair game and already done.

And the creepers/pedos ect ect probably made/ found some loophole that the Feds / government are unable to access easily.
Yea I get that. End of the day those cloud servers are their property and they have to right to but when you buy a phone from them that’s your phone. They shouldn’t be able to check what is and isn’t on everyone’s phones especially when they’re scanning everything.
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 2 months ago '17        #11
WHATEVERMAN 
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 bigkilla said
Yea I get that. End of the day those cloud servers are their property and they have to right to but when you buy a phone from them that’s your phone. They shouldn’t be able to check what is and isn’t on everyone’s phones especially when they’re scanning everything.
The problem is, as a company, Apple never believed in that sentiment (which is why they micromanage every aspect of how you can use their products). Its the reason why I never got into their products.
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 2 months ago '05        #12
4REAL  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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First they invade our phone conversations, they want to invade our bodies with experimental treatments, and now invading our devices. This is just an excuse for more and more invasion. These people aren't truly against any pedophilia. Look what's going on with the LGBTQ agenda and how they are targeting children.

Thanks to liberal insanity being pushed with time, there will come a time in the future when wokesters will say pedophilia is natural and is a s*xual preference and will reference our current time in 2021 as toxic to pedophiles.

And by then, these phone devices will have upped the anti x ten in invading our phones and private lives.
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 2 months ago '21        #13
Marrero 
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It was a good run yall....
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 2 months ago '06        #14
bigkilla  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 WHATEVERMAN said
The problem is, as a company, Apple never believed in that sentiment (which is why they micromanage every aspect of how you can use their products). Its the reason why I never got into their products.
But that’s not just Apple.

Remember Sony sued Geohotz or whatever for breaking into the PlayStation.. like it’s all these companies.
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 2 months ago '21        #15
Fras 
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They don't care about children. Anything that is run by corporations or governments that claims to be for "good" while infringing on your rights is never for good.

If Apple cared about children they wouldn't have children making their phones, and suicide nets at their manufacturing facilities.

sh*t makes me sad man. Back to polaroids and photo books for us...
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 2 months ago '15        #16
CZNM22  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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If you're using Apple products, you already know what the deal is.

This is why I fu*k with open platforms and open-source software so much.
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 2 months ago '21        #17
BigGVD 
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Lotta bx weird boys sweating right now
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 2 months ago '15        #18
Djkataz 
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Im Conflicted ,If its true they have good intentions great.
However I'm against this a little to much like BIG BROTHER to me. What next if this is allowed .
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 2 months ago '05        #19
gregnice631 
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sh*t is wild. bx members gonna be putting their kid brother in a headlock and get flagged.
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 2 months ago '04        #20
nwking  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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I could see how this could go wrong, some people take pics their kids in the bath or only in their underwear hell my parents have a good amount of pics of me in my he-man underpants and running around the house with no clothes on.
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 2 months ago '05        #21
bklyn 
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Jailbreak your iPhone and block that BS.
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 2 months ago '14        #22
rashadd 
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Is funny because when watching the wwdc event in almost every video they expressed how "privacy" were one of their main focal points.

Sure privacy from everyone except Apple. I get the whole child abuse thing but don't understand how it seems these companies want to be able to know everything about you. Apple as well as Google.

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 2 months ago '09        #23
faceoffizhere 
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 Sizzler01 said
apple doesnt really care about child abuse...
Notice how they taking away peoples privacy all under the guise of helping people which is false. Android next this is how they will get a hold of your device forever and shut you off hne you dont comply
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 2 months ago '14        #24
Sphynx 
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Y’all scared they bout to find your kiddy diddling pictures
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 2 months ago '06        #25
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 BigGVD said
Lotta bx weird boys sweating right now
That’s what I got reading the first 15 replies
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