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Raiders “win-now” mode puts two former 1st rounders on the bench🤦🏽*♂️👀



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theFREAK  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x179
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Raiders “win-now” mode puts two former 1st rounders on the bench🤦🏽*♂️👀
 

 

Two recent Raiders first-round draft picks are struggling to find the field early in training camp as Las Vegas’ draft woes continue.

Defensive end Clelin Ferrell, the fourth overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, and cornerback Damon Arnette, the 19th overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, are running with the second team, according to Raiders beat reporters at practice.

Defensive ends Yannick Ngakoue and Maxx Crosby are playing over Ferrell, and Arnette is behind Trayvon Mullen, Casey Hayward and Nevin Lawson in the cornerback pecking order.

The Raiders believe they’re in win-now mode and trust playing veterans Ngakoue, Crosby, Mullen, Hayward and Lawson over Ferrell and Arnette, according to a source. Las Vegas is PFF's 21st-ranked team entering the 2021 NFL season and tied with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Philadelphia Eagles at +10,000 to win the Super Bowl, per DraftKings Sportsbook.

Arnette has dealt with off-field issues this offseason. He’s also struggled to fit Las Vegas’ system, according to another source.

Hayward has experience under new Raiders defensive coordinator Gus Bradley from his playing time with the Los Angeles Chargers (2017-20). The 31-year-old veteran cornerback and the rest of the defensive backs are competing in what is a “wide open” secondary, per league source.

The Raiders brought in outside mental health professionals to help interview prospects this year. They’ve struggled to find consistent success in the early rounds of the draft since Jon Gruden was hired as head coach in 2018 and Mike Mayock came aboard as general manager in 2019.

Defensive tackle P.J. Hall, a second-round pick in 2018, was waived after just two seasons. Safety Johnathan Abram, the 27th overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, was PFF’s lowest-graded starting safety last season. Wide receiver/running back Lynn Bowden, a third-round pick last year, was traded to the Miami Dolphins before the 2020 season began.

Offensive tackle Kolton Miller, a 2018 first-round pick, running back Josh Jacobs, a 2019 first-round pick, wide receiver Hunter Renfrow, Mullen and Crosby have been more successful selections. Miller ranks 23rd in PFF's preseason offensive tackle rankings, and Jacobs ranks ninth at his position.

Las Vegas was criticized by draft analysts for reaching on offensive tackle Alex Leatherwood in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft. The Alabama
product was PFF's eighth-ranked offensive tackle and 40th-ranked overall player on the final 2021 big board.

The Raiders responded by tweeting, “Regardless of what any ‘draft expert' said, GM Mike Mayock and Coach Gruden saw a starting right tackle in Alex Leatherwood.”

The irony that Mayock worked as a “draft expert” for NFL Media before being hired by Raiders was either lost on or ignored by the team’s social media department.

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 2 months ago '06        #2
soso24  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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2 of the worst draft reaches in recent history
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 2 months ago '09        #3
dadon85 
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Is there a reason the raiders didn't select devin white or Josh Allen
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 2 months ago '04        #4
d.c. supreme  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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mayock

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 2 months ago '15        #5
AlmightySae 
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 dadon85 said
Is there a reason the raiders didn't select devin white or Josh Allen


Seen ferrell as a “high character guy” and I guess that was more
Important lmfao.
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 2 months ago '17        #6
Harasnart 
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Ferrell was a stretch... he was low first round.

Mike M and Gruden tried to be PFF and pick someone no one thought should go high.......

Bum a*s franchise
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 2 months ago '04        #7
!!!  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x13
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We stink.
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 2 months ago '07        #8
KeepinItTrill 
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 dadon85 said
Is there a reason the raiders didn't select devin white or Josh Allen
cuz Gruden was tired of hearing about Khalil and us having no pass rush

I wanted Allen
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 2 months ago '16        #9
BMC1000  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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good

the new dc is regulating

in still early so they might be sending a message

either way i like it

gotta earn your sport regardless of status






but why da raiders sneak diss mayock with that last line
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 2 months ago '16        #10
BMC1000  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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 dadon85 said
Is there a reason the raiders didn't select devin white or Josh Allen
is there a reason to bring up old sh*t

that was like 4 years ago
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 2 months ago '07        #11
theFREAK  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x179 OP
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 dadon85 said
Is there a reason the raiders didn't select devin white or Josh Allen
They thought Devin White was undersized and that Josh Allen wouldn’t transition well as an every down player and would be more of a one trick pony as just a pass rusher.


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 2 months ago '15        #12
Drakehotel  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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I’m a huge Buckeye fan and I even thought there was no way Arnette was going 1st round
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Top 10 most propped recently  2 months ago '07        #13
Bkjj11  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x77
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Called them both busts, wasn't wrong
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 2 months ago '09        #14
dadon85 
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 BMC1000 said
is there a reason to bring up old sh*t

that was like 4 years ago
2 years but

Top 10 most propped recently  2 months ago '07        #15
Bkjj11  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x77
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Leatherwood gonna be solid tho
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 2 months ago '14        #16
Soaring Seagull  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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You could look at Ferrell and just tell he was gonna have a tough transition to the pros. Jack of all trade type with no special traits.


Anyways, I'm not mad at the raiders for that. Admit your mistakes and move on. Best man wins regardless of draft position


Last edited by Soaring Seagull; 08-02-2021 at 07:38 AM..
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 2 months ago '10        #17
quan3106  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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That just means u drafted terribly

 2 months ago '07        #18
KeepinItTrill 
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 quan3106 said
That just means u drafted terribly
welcome to my entire existence as a fan, outside of a few players

and the best one was traded away 3 years ago
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 2 months ago '10        #19
quan3106  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 KeepinItTrill said
welcome to my entire existence as a fan, outside of a few players

and the best one was traded away 3 years ago
Hey man I know how it is…knicks and Giants haven’t drafted great themselves
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 2 months ago '07        #20
KeepinItTrill 
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 quan3106 said
Hey man I know how it is…knicks and Giants haven’t drafted great themselves
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 2 months ago '04        #21
W24x55 
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And Ruggs over Lamb and Jeudy
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 2 months ago '07        #22
KeepinItTrill 
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 W24x55 said
And Ruggs over Lamb and Jeudy
yea...that one's still a headscratcher

I was so hyped cuz Lamb was there, and what did Chucky do


I hope Ruggs succeeds but you don't draft that type of receiver that high

 2 months ago '09        #23
LOONATIK  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Lol just another blip in my sad and lonely existence as a raider fan




This is why I hold onto Derek Carr so close he’s the only fu*king breathing human on earth that actually cares about the raiders and wants them to be great, nobody else gives a sh*t




This is my last go round, seriously, another year of incompetence and I’m retiring from this dark sea of letdown that is Raider football


 2 months ago '07        #24
KeepinItTrill 
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 LOONATIK said
Lol just another blip in my sad and lonely existence as a raider fan




This is why I hold onto Derek Carr so close he’s the only fu*king breathing human on earth that actually cares about the raiders and wants them to be great, nobody else gives a sh*t




This is my last go round, seriously, another year of incompetence and I’m retiring from this dark sea of letdown that is Raider football


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 2 months ago '15        #25
Preacher Mane  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 KeepinItTrill said

Don’t worry. If Lebron puts on a raiders hat, he’ll gladly get down on his knees in front of Chucks and Mayock.


Raiders would be the team I rebuilt if I bought madden this year but fu*k that game
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