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PackerTrelli3  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x10
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Is Bill Russell Overrated? Why Is He Not In Your Top 5?
 

 
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He has 11 rings and a lot of accolades. He could play!!

But there were only 10 teams at the time…

There were not as many playoff rounds… bill played 10-14 games to win his first 8 rings. So that means less aging on his body…

Russell’s team was stacked!….

Players of his era were weak, skinny. There were only FOUR players taller than 6’8. That includes him and Wilt….


Being that the 3 point was obsolete, he could easily dominate the rim and play in the paint, because his size…. The smaller, less athletic guys couldn’t compete against it. They weren’t tall enough. Imagine shaq playing against 5th graders…



And let’s not be disrespectful. Let’s it keep basketball and stats.
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THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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WHy is he not in mine?

I didnt see him play

I was born decades after his prime

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 2 months ago '14        #3
215Philly  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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They'll say his era was weak, but when I say the 80s/90s weak, certain fanboys will throw a tantrum
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 2 months ago '14        #4
215Philly  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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Yall dismiss the old era until its an era you like

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 2 months ago '05        #5
iggyemu 
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Basketball didn't really start until the 80s with Magic and Bird.

That said....Russell is an incredible human being.
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 2 months ago '17        #6
CELE91 
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 PackerTrelli3 said



He has 11 rings and a lot of accolades. He could play!!

But there were only 10 teams at the time…

There were not as many playoff rounds… bill played 10-14 games to win his first 8 rings. So that means less aging on his body…

Russell’s team was stacked!….

Players of his era were weak, skinny. There were only FOUR players taller than 6’8. That includes him and Wilt….


Being that the 3 point was obsolete, he could easily dominate the rim and play in the paint, because his size…. The smaller, less athletic guys couldn’t compete against it. They weren’t tall enough. Imagine shaq playing against 5th graders…



And let’s not be disrespectful. Let’s it keep basketball and stats.
Ive never seen him play but i can tell you this: getting 11 rings is not easy.especially being a black man in the 60s in racist boston.

Also those "weak and skinny players" in their prime would make you look bad on 1 on 1
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 2 months ago '20        #7
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I have no doubt he would be elite defensively in any era. What holds him back is that while you could make a case for him being a good offensive play in other era's, there is no evidence that he could be elite on offense like Wilt, Kareem, Shaq and Hakeem were

I believe he could average 20+ just from running the floor and finishing on the fast break, as well as 2nd chance opportunities. Him and Wilt could both run up and down the court faster then any bigs in the league right now

I have Russell 6th all time just outside of the top 5
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 2 months ago '20        #8
oR2  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 PackerTrelli3 said



He has 11 rings and a lot of accolades. He could play!!

But there were only 10 teams at the time…

There were not as many playoff rounds… bill played 10-14 games to win his first 8 rings. So that means less aging on his body…

Russell’s team was stacked!….

Players of his era were weak, skinny. There were only FOUR players taller than 6’8. That includes him and Wilt….


Being that the 3 point was obsolete, he could easily dominate the rim and play in the paint, because his size…. The smaller, less athletic guys couldn’t compete against it. They weren’t tall enough. Imagine shaq playing against 5th graders…



And let’s not be disrespectful. Let’s it keep basketball and stats.

Where tf did you get this info from?


Bill Russell C 6-9
Wilt Chamberlain C 7-1 ​
Swede Halbrook C 7-3​
Darrall Imhoff C 6-10​
Ray Felix C 6-11​
Wayne Yates C 6-8​
Bevo Nordmann C 6-10​
Walter Dukes C 7-0​
Walt Bellamy C 6-11

That's just Centers.


Average players height in 60's is pretty much the same as today.

PG's

1961-62 Season, avg = 6-1.89"​
1989-2011 NBA draft avg = 6-1.02"

SG's

1961-62 Season, avg = 6-4.45"​
1989-2011 NBA draft avg = 6-3.76"


SF's

1961-62 Season, avg = 6-6.08"​
1989-2011 NBA draft avg = 6-6.40"


PF's

1961-62 Season, avg = 6-7.83"​
1989-2011 NBA draft avg = 6-7.95"

C's

1961-1962 Season, avg = 6-11.06"
1989-2011 NBA draft avg = 6-10.44"


This MYTH that Wilt and Bill were only big guys and they played against unathletic, skinny janitors needs to die already, because it's complete lie.
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 2 months ago '05        #9
Stuart Scott  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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I mean if you don’t think he was a great player, you’re definitely a casual
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 2 months ago '07        #10
MiseryCityTexas  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 or2 said
where tf did you get this info from?


Bill russell c 6-9
wilt chamberlain c 7-1 ​
swede halbrook c 7-3​
darrall imhoff c 6-10​
ray felix c 6-11​
wayne yates c 6-8​
bevo nordmann c 6-10​
walter dukes c 7-0​
walt bellamy c 6-11

that's just centers.


Average players height in 60's is pretty much the same as today.

Pg's

1961-62 season, avg = 6-1.89"​
1989-2011 nba draft avg = 6-1.02"

sg's

1961-62 season, avg = 6-4.45"​
1989-2011 nba draft avg = 6-3.76"


sf's

1961-62 season, avg = 6-6.08"​
1989-2011 nba draft avg = 6-6.40"


pf's

1961-62 season, avg = 6-7.83"​
1989-2011 nba draft avg = 6-7.95"

c's

1961-1962 season, avg = 6-11.06"
1989-2011 nba draft avg = 6-10.44"


this myth that wilt and bill were only big guys and they played against unathletic, skinny janitors needs to die already, because it's complete lie.

wilt chamberlain scored a 100 points on willie nauls, who was a four time all star, but people claimed he dropped a 100 on UNathletic white usps postal workers who played basketball part time smfh.
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Top 10 most slapped recently  2 months ago '13        #11
THEDONN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Side note: Bill never won an NBA finals mvp award getting them 11 chips

Hence why the Nba finals mvp trophy is called the Bill Russell award


 2 months ago '04        #12
franchise  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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i love Russell --- but nearly his whole team was Hall of Famers - its the most super of super teams there ever was.


and Bill himself said Wilt was the best player in the world



with all the great players since then - Bill unfortunately is not top 10 of all time but he is still 1 of the best ever --- even top 100-500 all time is crazy elite regardless of what idiot posters say about top 5 - 10 - 20
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 2 months ago '18        #13
HoopLife88 
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my dad was 4 years old when he retired. If he's in anybody's top 5 they're at least 75 years old
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 2 months ago '11        #14
Joseph  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Many of the legends who played pre-internet are underrated. A lot of people don't got Kareem in their top five despite all of his points, rings and MVPs.
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 2 months ago '09        #15
That Guy Fly 
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I don't have him in my top 5 because his skill level wasn't as great as other all time centers. He was damn good though
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 2 months ago '14        #16
Playboi Loso 
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Played against electricians & mailmen
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 2 months ago '16        #17
144000  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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He's before our time is all

Never seen a Bill Russell game... maybe clips here and there

 2 months ago '17        #18
Pretty Tone 
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because im 33 anybody under 60 speaking on bill Russell is a phony
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 2 months ago '13        #19
hoodnurd 
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big bill was the man in his day didn’t see him play but the proof is in the pudding when you bring up his numbers, him and wilt perfected the position. It would’ve been nice to see him play but I was born in the 80s and didn’t really follow hoops like that until ai but I always loved the game.

 2 months ago '19        #20
Chrome2279 
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Imagine your future grandkids saying this sh*t about Kobe, Jordan, or Lebron cause they didn’t see them play… smh No respect for the old school.

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 2 months ago '16        #21
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I base judgement on eras. He's not in my top 10 but I still acknowledge his greatness in and to the sport.

Whatever sport up for discussion, in every generation there are changes to rules, styles of play, equipment, etc. to said sport that has some effect benefiting newer players. Last I was seriously into hoops was Laker/Celtic era, and the game has drastically changed and you trying to compare dudes who was playing in the 50's/60's.

It's especially difficult when you haven't seen the individual play. When Jordan was playing I used to think he was overrated until I saw him play the series with Portland. Same for Bird, which was more cause he was white and a Celtic. As I aged and watched him later, could I appreciate how cold Bird was as a player.

But given the fact that Russell has all them rings still says something. People throw up this that and a third to dismiss his accomplishments but he still had to play against one of the greatest, if not THE greatest center, Chamberlain.

I just hate when goofy negroes just dismiss something cause it's old and has no relevance.
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 2 months ago '12        #22
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There was like, ten teams and opponent rosters consisted of part time cab drivers and substitute teachers in the first half of his career.

His entire team and coach were the HOFers of the era. Parity was like the DreamTeam in '92, no rivalries, no chance.

Chamberlain would have had an equally impressive Finals record had he played for the 50's 60's Celtics.
Insert any of your favorite all time bigs in his place and they'd have ran the table all the same. Duncan, Ewing, Mutombo....


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 2 months ago '09        #23
thegoldenhero 
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He's underrated to me
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 2 months ago '05        #24
Micheal C. Will  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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I'm 42 and I barely saw Magic, Bird, Kareem, or Thomas play in their prime, so I'm sure most of the people in this thread commenting including the OP haven't seen them play at all but you still got them in your top 10 or top 5.

So how you ranking those guys, but not Bill Russell and calling him overrated?


 2 months ago '20        #25
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 Pretty Tone said
because im 33 anybody under 60 speaking on bill Russell is a phony
Theres plenty of YouTube videos, books you can read up on and quotes from other players and coaches during his time. That goes for all the other players back then too

I believe an all 60s starting 5 could compete with and possibly beat an all 2010s starting 5

Oscar
Jerry West
Elgin Baylor
Bill
Wilt

Bill and Wilt on the same team would give you the greatest interior presence ever seen or known and also be able to guard out on the perimeter, defend the pick and roll, etc

The Big O was basically a little taller version of Russ with better defense and shooting, and without the turnovers

Jerry West could shoot from anywhere. He was 6'3 with a 6'9 wingspan. He could jump up and touch 16 inches above the rim and was a very good defensive player. Theres a reason why hed the logo

Elgin Baylor would be the one weak link only because he was a 6'5 small forward but he was a great athlete, a strong guy and could defend well too
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