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Jul 26 - I知 a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax.
 

 

Bill’s final semester at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, was already difficult enough.

He was part of the final graduating class of survivors of the 2018 shooting, and they all had just marked the third anniversary of the day 17 people were k*lled, nine of whom were Bill’s classmates.

But Bill also had to deal with his father’s daily accusations that the shooting was a hoax and that the shooter, Bill, and all his classmates were paid pawns in a grand conspiracy orchestrated by some shadowy force.

Bill had worked hard to get over his survivor’s guilt after the shooting, but for the past five months, his own father has been triggering it all over again.

“He'll say stuff like this straight to my face whenever he's drinking: ‘You're a real piece of work to be able to sit here and act like nothing ever happened if it wasn't a hoax. Shame on you for being part of it and putting your family through it too,” Bill said in an anonymous post on Reddit last week.’

Bill first posted his story on QAnon Casualties, a Reddit thread dedicated to helping family members and friends of QAnon believers.

VICE News spoke to the poster and confirmed the author’s claims about being a survivor of the school shooting. Bill is not the student’s real name as they only spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, citing concerns about attacks from members of QAnon forums if his identity was revealed.

As is true for many who fell down the QAnon rabbit hole in recent years, Bill’s dad’s descent coincided with the pandemic.

“It started a couple months into the pandemic with the whole anti-lockdown protests,” Bill said. “His feelings were so strong it turned into facts for him. So if he didn't like having to wear masks it wouldn't matter what doctors or scientists said. Anything that contradicted his feelings was wrong. So he turned to the internet to find like-minded people which led him to QAnon.”

But until January, that was as far as it went. Then Bill’s father saw a video of Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene harassing Parkland survivor David Hogg in 2018, while he was visiting Washington to advocate for stricter gun control. Greene has repeatedly voiced support for QAnon and claimed the Parkland shooting was a hoax.

“He is a coward,” Greene told her followers.

Ever since then, Bill’s father has become convinced the shooting his son survived was a so-called “false flag” event and that the shooter was “​​a radical commie actor.”

“From there it snowballed into what he is today, believing that if the government is able to overthrow an election, then everything else is probably a lie too,” Bill added.

Bill is 18, and now that he’s graduated high school he’s looking to get out of the toxic situation he finds himself in.

“I do have options that can have me out before August, which as of now I'm planning to do,” Bill said. “I've been delaying it because I've felt stuck trying to ‘fix’ my dad.”

But Bill said that after he posted his story on Reddit, members of the QAnon Casualties community have been able to help him “push through that obligation I felt and leave before I completely lose my mind, because I'm already halfway there.”

Over the course of the last four years, but in particular since the beginning of the COVID-19 lockdown, the QAnon conspiracy cult has been tearing families apart, and many family members say their loved ones have transformed into different people in front of their eyes.

“Burgundy-colored T-shirts [the color shirt worn by the shooter] make me uncomfortable and he used to be so understanding he stopped wearing it around me. That person is completely gone and I miss him so fu*king much,” Bill said in his Reddit post.

Bill says his relationship with his mother has also suffered.

“The relationship with my mom is dependent on whether my dad is there or not, ’cause then it's pretty much all about conspiracy theories,” Bill told VICE News. “[The relationship] used to be fine but deteriorating quickly, [especially] after telling her that if she doesn't start putting her foot down, I'm leaving with no interest in seeing my dad again.”

But despite the threats to leave home, Bill’s mother has not stood up to his dad.

“It's not really going anywhere because she's too naive to think he'll magically get over wanting to constantly retraumatize me and I'm not waiting around for that,” Bill told VICE News.

Bill also says he’s been unable to talk to any of his fellow survivors about what he has been going through with this father.

“I never talked about it with them,” Bill told VICE News. “As far as I know he's only held that belief—at least so strongly—since January. Our last semester was difficult enough with Feb. 14 marking 3 years since the shooting, along with emotions leading up to us being the last class of survivors to graduate.”

“It wasn't—and still isn't—easy to bottle up, but telling them my dad thinks the absolute hell we went through, where nine of the victims were in our class, is a hoax is not a pain I want to put on them. It's difficult enough knowing that belief even exists at all.”

At this point, Bill has little hope in ever seeing his father return to the person he was before he became obsessed with QAnon conspiracy theories, and even if he did, too much has happened to ever repair their relationship.

“He'll never stop on his own, because there are always new theories and goalposts being moved,” Bill said. “I don't know how to help someone that far gone. My guess is restricted access to the internet and lots of therapy. But even if there was hope he'd eventually snap out of it, it wouldn't change my mind on never wanting to see him again. So it doesn't really matter anymore.”
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 2 months ago '20        #2
Abso 
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Dad a whole loser MAGAt
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 2 months ago '15        #3
Drakehotel  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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MAGATs really suffering from PTSD over Trump's loss
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 2 months ago '12        #4
OldBusiness  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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“I do have options that can have me out before August, which as of now I'm planning to do,” Bill said. “I've been delaying it because I've felt stuck trying to ‘fix’ my dad.”

Kid is over there trying to raise his parents, America you played yourself
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 2 months ago '18        #5
DUCEDUCE  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Bro this is just being a fu*king moron now. You cant do nothing but let these idiots fall and follow Ron Watkins.

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 2 months ago '06        #6
imthatinfamous  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Believing a Reddit thread with no verifiable evidence


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 2 months ago '20        #7
Bighempin  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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YT is losing it
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 2 months ago '16        #8
Blunted Sultan  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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We cant choose our dads, but Im glad he isnt mine
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 2 months ago '17        #9
Obadiah1Verse18  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x13
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More ‘anti-conspiracy theory’ propaganda and you clowns just wipe your mouths, and ask for more.
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 2 months ago '14        #10
Cuttysark 
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Dude believes that a mass shooting to which his own son was a victim is a hoax because of Q

Also all these Qtards believe that the anonymous Q has access to top secret information due to having a Q clearance which I myself currently hold. That clearance is for Department of Energy employees. Given what my mission is, I find it hard to believe that this Q person would be privy to the type of information he used to start this cult. DOE is mainly weapons testing and nuclear programs. And aliens if you believe the other conspiracies out there.

The type of info Q claimed to have access to seems more Department of Defense or Homeland Security.

Basically the cult these idiots fell for was built on a flimsy lie using made up credentials for the wrong executive department


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Top 10 most slapped recently  2 months ago '17        #11
Ymmot  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 DUCEDUCE said
Bro this is just being a fu*king moron now. You cant do nothing but let these idiots fall and follow Ron Watkins.

That racist incel piece of sh*t is a hero to @ @ @ @ @ @ @

They worship the bullsh*t that kid makes up.
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 2 months ago '04        #12
GUCCI C0ND0MS 
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 Ymmot said
That racist incel piece of sh*t is a hero to @ @ @ @ @ @ @

They worship the bullsh*t that kid makes up.
You should watch the Qanon HBO docuseries. sh*t is an instant classic.
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 2 months ago '17        #13
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 GUCCI C0ND0MS said
You should watch the Qanon HBO docuseries. sh*t is an instant classic.
Class of 04

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 2 months ago '04        #14
erickonasis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 Drakehotel said
MAGATs really suffering from PTSD over Trump's loss
It痴 amazing how much they worship this guy it痴 disgusting
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 2 months ago '15        #15
Lord Funkington 
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 Obadiah1Verse18 said
More 疎nti-conspiracy theory propaganda and you clowns just wipe your mouths, and ask for more.
What? so you're saying people should believe every whack a doodle conspiracy that comes along?
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 2 months ago '15        #16
Lord Funkington 
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 Cuttysark said
Dude believes that a mass shooting to which his own son was a victim is a hoax because of Q

Also all these Qtards believe that the anonymous Q has access to top secret information due to having a Q clearance which I myself currently hold. That clearance is for Department of Energy employees. Given what my mission is, I find it hard to believe that this Q person would be privy to the type of information he used to start this cult. DOE is mainly weapons testing and nuclear programs. And aliens if you believe the other conspiracies out there.

The type of info Q claimed to have access to seems more Department of Defense of Homeland Security.

Basically the cult these idiots fell for was built on a flimsy lie using made up credentials for the wrong executive department
That is fantastic. And so stupid at the same time.
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 2 months ago '04        #17
cledee23 
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Like I've said on other threads and post, some people are so far gone they think their own family are crisis actors, and everyone is staged.
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 2 months ago '18        #18
Most Palone 
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I have photos of some of the comments from YouTube, Reddit, Twitter...bx

With a documentary about edge lords (them and these conspiracy goofs are very similar in their approach but, edge lords just say goofy sh*t because their too weak to be tough in public even though they know what their saying is goofy)

A thread is coming and I will point out some hard truths about the type of people who have these wild conspiracies.

I’m prepared to get banned behind it to because it’s definitely going to trigger a lot of people. They documentary points out the one thing they have in common

All ima say is this is by design, a reaction of sorts. In short...they going out sad
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 2 months ago '05        #19
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What's the point of having a paid security/police at the scene who did nothing and was not held accountable for doing nothing.

Kids were sitting ducks.
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 2 months ago '17        #20
DaQCKing  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Hold on. Your kid lives through this event and you let some crazy muthafu*kas online convince you that it didn't happen

These people are fu*ked in the head something serious


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 2 months ago '19        #21
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“His feelings were so strong it turned into facts for him. So if he didn't like having to wear masks it wouldn't matter what doctors or scientists said. Anything that contradicted his feelings was wrong.“

This really hits hard. Those same feelings that these old men mocked people for having and showing wind up being the only thing that matters to them. It’s huge amongst the Q/maga crowd, but not limited to them.

I think that is possibly one of the worst things to evolve out of the social media era. Everyone is super super sensitive, so few seem to be open to learning.
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 2 months ago '17        #22
Real Talk 10%er  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x22
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This story makes more sense when you realize its a false flag.

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 2 months ago '14        #23
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There’s a study you guys can look it up that 56.3 percent of white liberal women under 30 have been diagnosed with mental health issues. Lol! You can’t make it up. And that’s only the ones who got diagnosed. Black folks don’t get their mental checked and refuse professional help, so I can only imagine the percentage of liberal black women with mental health issues lol.

Also, the left rhetoric is extremely feminist, unlike the right being way more masculine. So if you’re a male and vote liberal, you’re a beta!!!


Remember my people!
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 2 months ago '14        #24
Cuttysark 
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 Lord Funkington said
That is fantastic. And so stupid at the same time.
It's hilarious

More likely that Q is that 4 Chan weirdo or a Russian Op

Maybe both

Whoever it was is definitely preying on America's mental illness and low education issues
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 2 months ago '20        #25
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Learning how to properly cite reliable sources as your driver of logic is one of the most basic skill sets you learn in college when doing finals papers.

Lotta people can’t research and don’t even know it.


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