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 2 months ago '15        #1
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Critics of the dark knight rises. What are your main complaints?
 

 
what are some of your best arguments against this film?
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 2 months ago '15        #2
Preacher Mane  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Bale’s Batman was an under prepared, crybaby simp that was caught off guard far too much and was constantly overwhelmed. It was an issue in TDK but it was on full display in TDKR.

Regular street guys got the best of him multiple times. The Joker, Bane, Catwoman and even Talia outsmarted him without him having the slightest clue of what was going on. It happened in the comic sure but he was always on top of sh*t. Lackluster writing for someone who’s M.O. is being over prepared so he doesn’t underachieve.


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 2 months ago '07        #3
TH35 
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Pacing
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 2 months ago '16        #4
Proveone  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 Mtyjoejnblkblnd said
what are some of your best arguments against this film?
Movie was




I joke I kid, Baines motivations at the end were lame as fu*k. Movie fu*king fell apart at the end


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 2 months ago '17        #5
1Oh 
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Bane was cool 2/3rds of the movie, then he went this simp route which diminished everything about him. The transition to Talia being promoted to main villain felt flimsy considering all of the good equity they built with Bane for most of the movie.

Catwoman was forgettable.

Terrible f*ght choreography. The editing errors in TDKR are notorious on the internet.

Bloated, runtime longer than it needed to be.

The inconsistency of Bruce Wayne's physical status over a short period of time (5 months). He started the movie broken, then got back into shape with the help of cybernetics, then got his spine shattered by Bane, imprisoned in another country, then escaped prison in prime shape, got back into Gotham kitted up as Batman, and beat Bane hand to hand...but it didn't seem like Bruce changed his strategy at all to beat Bane considering how the first f*ght turned out. It just seemed like Batman won the 2nd f*ght because the plot needed it to happen, and not how Batman typically has to beat Bane in the comics/cartoons. It was overall a missed opportunity and quite unrealistic for the established Nolan-verse.

The "Robin" wink at the end was eyerolling and unnecessary.

Not a bad movie, just the worst of the Dark Knight trilogy and could've been better.
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 2 months ago '16        #6
mobchip 
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I don't think Catwoman was needed. Catwoman leads Batman into a trap that could have been Miranda Tate and Bane's plan all of long. It would have been incredible as Miranda relieved herself as Talia al Ghul after Bane wrecks Batman. So, Miranda Tate is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises while Bane controls the armory of The Batman, while Bruce is in an inescapable prison.

Now, Batwoman would have easily been introduced as a stand-in to help control Gotham. Eight- years...Bruce could have trained a partner and have them undercover as a Gotham city officer. Fox gives access to the new armory to batwoman

Anyways, what happens is Bane vs Batman. Talia al Ghul vs Batwoman.
Bruce retires in the end.
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 2 months ago '06        #7
aussie08 
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The f*ghts scenes were terrible. Slow, lumbering punches.
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 2 months ago '20        #8
D1dnt read  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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liked the movie, but rewatching it now, some of the dialogue was cheesy and some questionable acting in some areas


on a side note tho, I saw this video of the bane vs batman f*ght with the sound redone and a bit of visual effects (minor camera shakes) to accentuate every hit




sh*t makes a big difference and really puts emphasis on the a*s whooping batman got
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 2 months ago '17        #9
SPdaGOAT  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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The writing and honestly so many other aspects of that movie fall apart in that 3rd act. Bane being merely a lackey to Talia was trash as fu*k. The whole Robin thing was absolute garbage from top to bottom. Either do Robin or dont.
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 2 months ago '07        #10
r.burgundy 
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Had the most anticlimactic end f*ght in movie history. All that for bane to get shot with a missile lol
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 2 months ago '10        #11
Zone Out 
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 TH35 said
Pacing
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 2 months ago '07        #12
Daville502 
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Editing. Some of the cuts were bad especially right before and after scarecrow is doing his court thing.
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 2 months ago '04        #13
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The whole bomb premise has been done to death


I thought it was laziness on the part of Chris Nolan who obviously wanted his Batman run to be over with
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 2 months ago '17        #14
WHATEVERMAN 
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 Preacher Mane said
Bale’s Batman was an under prepared, crybaby simp that was caught off guard far too much and was constantly overwhelmed. It was an issue in TDK but it was on full display in TDKR.

Regular street guys got the best of him multiple times. The Joker, Bane, Catwoman and even Talia outsmarted him without him having the slightest clue of what was going on. It happened in the comic sure but he was always on top of sh*t. Lackluster writing for someone who’s M.O. is being over prepared so he doesn’t underachieve.
Agreed and this is why I always qualify that the Nolan Batman trilogy are good Batman movies, but not good Batman stories. Dude almost never did any real detective work versus the comics or the animated series where that's what he was doing 90% of the story.
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 2 months ago '04        #15
GodsFavorite 
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I liked it but my biggest complaint was that it was so rushed that nothing emotional landed because the scenes didn’t have a second to breathe. Any line of dialogue or event that was supposed to have an impact was just swept away to get to the next scene as quickly as possible
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 2 months ago '15        #16
A T  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x12
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Catwoman k*lling Bane.

The whole Robin bullsh*t.

The pick your own(he died/he didn't die) ending



The sh*t with the Pit scenes(and idea as a whole) especially the without the rope scene are some of my all-time favorite movie scenes though
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 2 months ago '19        #17
NoFuxGvn 
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I agree that Bale was whiny as fu*k. All depressed and sh*t. That was very disappointing among many other things listed already
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 2 months ago '11        #18
QB Eagles  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Imagine if Nolan ended with The Dark Knight
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 2 months ago '05        #19
Muggz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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i never got the hate. i thought it was dope. i think ppl mad that dark knight was better and ppl always wantin more cause they greedy

 2 months ago '11        #20
FcukItImOnOne 
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imho I thought it was a pretty great capper you a great trilogy. The only real complaints I have are the same ones I have for the rest of the trilogy. The lack of clear and well-choreographed hand to hand combat. The first Bane f*ght is really the best and only great f*ght in the whole trilogy imo, which is funny & sad considering it’s in the same film as those bungled rooftops stunts. If it had more hand to hand f*ghts and a better final f*ght it’d be just as good if not better than TDK. TFKR is too long too. The plot should’ve been less complex - same criticism for half his films really.


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 2 months ago '04        #21
STHRNcomfort 
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parts felt forced. maybe related to the pacing comment above
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 2 months ago '07        #22
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f*ght scenes were terrible.

Not enough gadgets.
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 2 months ago '15        #23
Mtyjoejnblkblnd  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1 OP
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 Proveone said
Movie was




I joke I kid, Baines motivations at the end were lame as fu*k. Movie fu*king fell apart at the end
See that’s a huge complaint I have too.

This entire movie bane is a brutal mastermind badass genius then at the end all of a sudden he’s actually the number 2 to talia and he’s quiet in the corner crying while she unfolds the true master plan. It basically neutered the film’s primary villain in less than five minutes.
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 2 months ago '15        #24
Mtyjoejnblkblnd  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1 OP
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 1Oh said
Bane was cool 2/3rds of the movie, then he went this simp route which diminished everything about him. The transition to Talia being promoted to main villain felt flimsy considering all of the good equity they built with Bane for most of the movie.

Catwoman was forgettable.

Terrible f*ght choreography. The editing errors in TDKR are notorious on the internet.

Bloated, runtime longer than it needed to be.

The inconsistency of Bruce Wayne's physical status over a short period of time (5 months). He started the movie broken, then got back into shape with the help of cybernetics, then got his spine shattered by Bane, imprisoned in another country, then escaped prison in prime shape, got back into Gotham kitted up as Batman, and beat Bane hand to hand...but it didn't seem like Bruce changed his strategy at all to beat Bane considering how the first f*ght turned out. It just seemed like Batman won the 2nd f*ght because the plot needed it to happen, and not how Batman typically has to beat Bane in the comics/cartoons. It was overall a missed opportunity and quite unrealistic for the established Nolan-verse.

The "Robin" wink at the end was eyerolling and unnecessary.

Not a bad movie, just the worst of the Dark Knight trilogy and could've been better.
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 2 months ago '05        #25
Tha Boss  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x11
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The fact the daughter came out of nowhere and became the ceo and Batman trusting her so fast.



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