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Jun 15 Proud Boys descended into dysfunction and finger-pointing as members were arrested
 

 
Washington (CNN)A private Proud Boys audio chat that was made public Tuesday shows how the right-wing group fell into dysfunction and finger-pointing as its members got arrested after the US Capitol riot.

Defense attorneys for Ethan Nordean, a leader of the Proud Boys in Washington state, released a rough transcript of the audio messages in a court filing. The FBI, which had seized Nordean's cell phone, found the audio clips on the Telegram app and produced the transcript. Prosecutors gave it to Nordean's lawyers as part of their legal obligations to turn over evidence to criminal defendants.

"We are f--ked...they are coming for us," one member said, according to court filings, which say the chat happened on February 1 as the national manhunt for Capitol rioters ramped up.

Another member said that the situation "completely f--king crashes and burns on us." The same person went on to criticize other Proud Boys who handled communications and security on January 6, saying, "I mean, f--k, 'tifa looks like professionals compared to us," referring to Antifa.

The messages became public on the same day Attorney General Merrick Garland announced new efforts by the Justice Department to crack down on domestic terrorism and extremism.

Prosecutors have focused aggressively on the Proud Boys and other right-wing extremist groups as they investigate the January 6 a*sault on the Capitol. Some members of these groups said they came to Washington, DC, at the invitation of then-President Donald Trump and that their goal was to prevent Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's victory.

In the Proud Boys chat, someone called on Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio to resign. (Tarrio was arrested in DC on an unrelated charge one day before the riot.) The audio chat contained other debates about the group's leaders, whether they were still doing a good job, the role that indicted members should play in the group and whether they should continue doing rallies.

"I understand where we're at in the frat," Nordean said, according to court filings form his lawyers. "I understand that we've taken some risks that we shouldn't have taken. We've done some things we shouldn't have done. Ok, but they've been done, and we need to learn from 'em."

Nordean also said he was no longer a Trump supporter, according to the rough transcript.

One member was shocked by the potential prison sentences for people convicted of the most serious offenses related to January 6. They said: "Twenty goddam years? Man, no matter what we do they're going to throw the f--king book at us." Other members discussed federal conviction rates and prison terms, and suggested that the best option might be to plead guilty.

And a member said he thought the group decided against going to DC for January 6. He said he was confused and upset that members ended up going and hurting the group's public image.

Nordean's lawyers released the messages as part of an attempt to get him out of jail. They claimed the Justice Department withheld the messages before a critical detention hearing in April. His lawyers said he made it clear in the call that he doesn't want to hold any more rallies, which could allay the judge's concerns that future rallies could lead to more political violence.

He has pleaded not guilty and is charged alongside three other Proud Boys leaders. More than two dozen members of the right-wing organization have been charged in the January 6 a*sault.

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Play stupid games....
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 1 month ago '20        #2
Xiox  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Excellent
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 1 month ago '17        #3
Ymmot  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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All the pro censorship/pro trump sites banned me for posting this article.
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 1 month ago '04        #4
GUCCI C0ND0MS 
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 Ymmot said
All the pro censorship/pro trump sites banned me for posting this article.
Nothing but lies.

Conservatives/populists/libertarians believe in unfettered free speech and are vehemently against all forms of censorship. These are sentiments you glaringly know next to nothing about.
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 1 month ago '04        #5
gh3tto 
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when larping goes wrong
they threw their lives away for the host of the apprentice



imagine thinking some new york reality actor trust fund bi*ch politician ever cared about you

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 1 month ago '06        #6
Storchaveli  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Delusional snowflakes thought sh*t was sweet.
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 1 month ago '16        #7
Proveone  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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These fake tough guys ain't gonna enjoy the pen

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 1 month ago '16        #8
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Proveone said
These fake tough guys ain't gonna enjoy the pen

wont find many trump supporters in the system anymore...........

once he said all drug dealers should be put to death a lot of them started feeling a certain way.............
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 1 month ago '16        #9
smokeytheblunt2 
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at least they're doing exactly what their orange jesus would do..........

anybody ever wonder how it's possible that trump and rudy could be so cool considering how hard rudy went after everybody and anybody that had any kinds of dealings with the mob in the 80's when donald was dealing face to face with guys like eddie garofalo(a rat in sammy bullsh*ts inner circle)? or why gravano refused to name him and downplayed their relationship in his book? he was giving information to the Southern District..........
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 1 month ago '18        #10
Capodecina  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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fu*k em






When the pressure came, the real bi*ches started to show.
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 1 month ago '06        #11
bigmike5115 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said
wont find many trump supporters in the system anymore...........

once he said all drug dealers should be put to death a lot of them started feeling a certain way.............
You'd be surprised seems like the public who don't have their rights everyday see the clear b.s going on

 1 month ago '04        #12
GUCCI C0ND0MS 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said
at least they're doing exactly what their orange jesus would do..........

anybody ever wonder how it's possible that trump and rudy could be so cool considering how hard rudy went after everybody and anybody that had any kinds of dealings with the mob in the 80's when donald was dealing face to face with guys like eddie garofalo(a rat in sammy bullsh*ts inner circle)? or why gravano refused to name him and downplayed their relationship in his book? he was giving information to the Southern District..........
Are you going to provide receipts on this? Insinuating that Trump has ever snitched is a bold claim.
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 1 month ago '16        #13
smokeytheblunt2 
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 GUCCI C0ND0MS said
Are you going to provide receipts on this? Insinuating that Trump has ever snitched is a bold claim.
its not bold at all. theres footage of him on youtube testifying in front of a casino board that a rival Native American casino was mob run.........

this dude was giving dirt on famous people he partied with to the press in exchange for positive articles about him, why wouldnt he rat to get himself out of trouble?


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 1 month ago '19        #14
Airtight 
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Surprised the orange d*ck sucking alt reichers here didn't get swept up in this



Stay prosecuted bi*ch boys

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 1 month ago '14        #15
King Maximus 
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What happens when you’re not really down for your cause

Facebook patriots had a run
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 1 month ago '04        #16
gh3tto 
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 Airtight said
Surprised the orange d*ck sucking alt reichers here didn't get swept up in this



Stay prosecuted bi*ch boys

it only took one pistol round to end their insurrection



you know the bx magats didnt have the heart/bus fare to show up to the treason rally
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 1 month ago '21        #17
BackInTheSaddle 
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 DUCEDUCE said
Washington (CNN)A private Proud Boys audio chat that was made public Tuesday shows how the right-wing group fell into dysfunction and finger-pointing as its members got arrested after the US Capitol riot.

Defense attorneys for Ethan Nordean, a leader of the Proud Boys in Washington state, released a rough transcript of the audio messages in a court filing. The FBI, which had seized Nordean's cell phone, found the audio clips on the Telegram app and produced the transcript. Prosecutors gave it to Nordean's lawyers as part of their legal obligations to turn over evidence to criminal defendants.

"We are f--ked...they are coming for us," one member said, according to court filings, which say the chat happened on February 1 as the national manhunt for Capitol rioters ramped up.

Another member said that the situation "completely f--king crashes and burns on us." The same person went on to criticize other Proud Boys who handled communications and security on January 6, saying, "I mean, f--k, 'tifa looks like professionals compared to us," referring to Antifa.

The messages became public on the same day Attorney General Merrick Garland announced new efforts by the Justice Department to crack down on domestic terrorism and extremism.

Prosecutors have focused aggressively on the Proud Boys and other right-wing extremist groups as they investigate the January 6 a*sault on the Capitol. Some members of these groups said they came to Washington, DC, at the invitation of then-President Donald Trump and that their goal was to prevent Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's victory.

In the Proud Boys chat, someone called on Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio to resign. (Tarrio was arrested in DC on an unrelated charge one day before the riot.) The audio chat contained other debates about the group's leaders, whether they were still doing a good job, the role that indicted members should play in the group and whether they should continue doing rallies.

"I understand where we're at in the frat," Nordean said, according to court filings form his lawyers. "I understand that we've taken some risks that we shouldn't have taken. We've done some things we shouldn't have done. Ok, but they've been done, and we need to learn from 'em."

Nordean also said he was no longer a Trump supporter, according to the rough transcript.

One member was shocked by the potential prison sentences for people convicted of the most serious offenses related to January 6. They said: "Twenty goddam years? Man, no matter what we do they're going to throw the f--king book at us." Other members discussed federal conviction rates and prison terms, and suggested that the best option might be to plead guilty.

And a member said he thought the group decided against going to DC for January 6. He said he was confused and upset that members ended up going and hurting the group's public image.

Nordean's lawyers released the messages as part of an attempt to get him out of jail. They claimed the Justice Department withheld the messages before a critical detention hearing in April. His lawyers said he made it clear in the call that he doesn't want to hold any more rallies, which could allay the judge's concerns that future rallies could lead to more political violence.

He has pleaded not guilty and is charged alongside three other Proud Boys leaders. More than two dozen members of the right-wing organization have been charged in the January 6 a*sault.




Play stupid games....
these people are supposed to be executed publicly anything less is failure
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 1 month ago '19        #18
Airtight 
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 gh3tto said
it only took one pistol round to end their insurrection



you know the bx magats didnt have the heart/bus fare to show up to the treason rally


Bus money is expensive on unemployment plair

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 1 month ago '17        #19
Naga Sadow  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x20
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 GUCCI C0ND0MS said
Nothing but lies.

Conservatives/populists/libertarians believe in unfettered free speech and are vehemently against all forms of censorship. These are sentiments you glaringly know next to nothing about.
Nah believe in their privilege a solving them from rules.
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 1 month ago '18        #20
set117  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 Storchaveli said
Delusional snowflakes thought sh*t was sweet.
They still won't get that RICO treatment that a black gang would've so the privilege is still working to their benefit.
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 1 month ago '05        #21
Emperor85 
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Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was an FBI informant

Extremist leader repeatedly worked undercover for investigators after his arrest in 2012, former prosecutor and court files reveal


Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys extremist group, has a past as an informer for federal and local law enforcement, repeatedly working undercover for investigators after he was arrested in 2012, according to a former prosecutor and a transcript of a 2014 federal court proceeding obtained by Reuters.

In the Miami hearing, a federal prosecutor, a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent and Tarrio’s own lawyer described his undercover work and said he had helped authorities prosecute more than a dozen people in various cases involving drugs, gambling and human smuggling.

Tarrio, in an interview with Reuters on Tuesday, denied working undercover or cooperating in cases against others. “I don’t know any of this,’” he said, when asked about the transcript. “I don’t recall any of this.”

Law enforcement officials and the court transcript contradict Tarrio’s denial. In a statement to Reuters, the former federal prosecutor in Tarrio’s case, Vanessa Singh Johannes, confirmed that “he cooperated with local and federal law enforcement, to aid in the prosecution of those running other, separate criminal enterprises, ranging from running marijuana grow houses in Miami to operating pharmaceutical fraud schemes”.

Tarrio, 36, is a high-profile figure who organizes and leads the rightwing Proud Boys in their confrontations with those they believe to be antifa, short for “anti-fascism”, an amorphous leftist movement. The Proud Boys were involved in the deadly insurrection at the Capitol on 6 January.

The records uncovered by Reuters are startling because they show that a leader of a far-right group now under intense scrutiny by law enforcement was previously an active collaborator with criminal investigators.

link for the rest of the article - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/27/proud-boys-leader-enrique-tarrio-fbi-informant
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 1 month ago '18        #22
SmokeEater 
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The feds should’ve tapped into that with “ it smells like bi*ch in here”
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 1 month ago '14        #23
strungout  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 GUCCI C0ND0MS said
Nothing but lies.

Conservatives/populists/libertarians believe in unfettered free speech and are vehemently against all forms of censorship. These are sentiments you glaringly know next to nothing about.






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 1 month ago '16        #24
BathWaterMelody  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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"I mean, f--k, 'tifa looks like professionals compared to us," referring to Antifa.


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 1 month ago '14        #25
Cuttysark 
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 BathWaterMelody said

"I mean, f--k, 'tifa looks like professionals compared to us," referring to Antifa.




No self awareness at all
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