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Forbes: The Math Behind Xbox Game Pass Versus $70 Sony Games Will Snowball Quickly
 

 
Tl;dr: Xbox Game Pass is the best value in gaming image

If you were drinking every time you saw a game was coming “day one to Game Pass” at the Xbox Show yesterday, you would have been under the table by the end. It’s clear that Microsoft is slamming the accelerator on Game Pass, with or without a console attached to it, and they’re going to try to not just have a large roster of old games, but continue the idea that every new first party game debuts there, and now that includes all future Bethesda games too, after the recent acquisition.

Sony, meanwhile, has taken the opposite path. This generation they’re not only sticking with selling individual new releases as they’ve always done, not rolling them up into any sort of subscription, but also increasing the price of their PS5 games from $60 to $70, which includes some third parties as well.

It’s not ideal for each game you go to purchase (I just winced when I went to buy Ratchet and Clank and remembered it was $70), but once you really start digging into this math, the longer this goes on, and the more games are released for both systems, maintaining a roster of games on PS5 is going to be very, very expensive compared to Xbox.

Let’s say you want to play 12 Xbox Series X first party games over three years, and 12 first party PS5 games over three years.

All those games are coming to Xbox Game Pass, so you will be paying $10 a month, barring any special deals, for 12 months, time three years. So $360.

Assuming all those Sony games are $70 each, you are instead paying $840. So the difference between the cost savings is quite literally almost the price of an Xbox Series X itself.

And the longer this goes on, the wider this gets. Simply double that, $720 for Game Pass for six years of games, and then 24 $70 PS5 games, and that’s $1680, a gap of almost a thousand dollars over the course of most of a console generation. And even if you’re doing Game Pass Ultimate at $15 a month, that’s $1080, still $600 less than purchasing those 24 PS5 games. And of course, we’re ignoring that you’re not just getting 24 Xbox Series X games, but a ton of other games you can play that you probably wouldn’t have purchased otherwise, and with Ultimate, access to PC and mobile and streaming copies too.

I’m not denying that Sony’s games aren’t worth paying for individually, but when Xbox starts building a must-have roster of exclusive as well, are PS5 games worth more than double what you’re paying when you just get everything with Game Pass? That raises more questions when the price gap is literally the cost of an entirely new console, and then some.

Sony has mentioned they’re going to be doing things to make its own subscriptions, PS Now, PS Plus, more attractive, but that hasn’t borne fruit yet, and the ultimate move, rolling up new releases into being included with a subscription, seems unlikely to happen as Sony has spoken out about that specifically in the past.

Yes, Game Pass was present last generation, but the difference now is Sony’s price hike and Microsoft’s newfound roster of first party games that will be arriving this generation. And things are going to get interesting as a result.
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 1 month ago '20        #2
Keep God First 
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Great value

sh*tty selection of games
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 1 month ago '20        #3
Iron Stan 
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 Christ Like said
Great value

sh*tty selection of games
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I appreciate the ability to have 100+ games at my will to play but when I’m only interested in like 4/5 it’s not worth it for me personally
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 1 month ago '05        #4
Krazie  OP
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 Christ Like said
Great value

sh*tty selection of games
200 games in the service with an 80+ Metacritic score, 90 of those over an 85.

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 1 month ago '12        #5
Faythung 
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 Iron Stan said
but when I’m only interested in like 4/5 it’s not worth it for me personally
Those 4/5 if new games would cost you $60-$70 each if you wanted them at release.

I bought 3 years of Ultimate for $110~.

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 1 month ago '17        #6
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Krazie said
200 games in the service with an 80+ Metacritic score, 90 of those over an 85.

Scores don't matter if you don't want to play the games.

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 1 month ago '04        #7
dblock187s 
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Gamepass gonna be fire for the next year
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 1 month ago '05        #8
Krazie  OP
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 justin747 said
Scores don't matter if you don't want to play the games.

The overwhelming consensus is that the library is not sh*tty. The numbers refute his statement. That's all.

We can't all be gamers of culture. And that's okay.
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 1 month ago '18        #9
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 Krazie said
Tl;dr: Xbox Game Pass is the best value in gaming
I’m not denying that Sony’s games aren’t worth paying for individually, but when Xbox starts building a must-have roster of exclusive as well, are PS5 games worth more than double what you’re paying when you just get everything with Game Pass?
don't lie to the people who don't wanna read
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 1 month ago '05        #10
Krazie  OP
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 KdenIII said
don't lie to the people who don't wanna read
No lies spoken, my brother.
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 1 month ago '04        #11
KURUPTION!!! 
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 Krazie said
200 games in the service with an 80+ Metacritic score, 90 of those over an 85.

The sh*tty selection of games narrative is just flat out hate at this point. Everything won't be for everyone, but there's definitely something for everyone.
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 1 month ago '04        #12
Da Ill One|M  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 Faythung said
Those 4/5 if new games would cost you $60-$70 each if you wanted them at release.

I bought 3 years of Ultimate for $110~.

Put me on
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 1 month ago '20        #13
D1dnt read 
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 Christ Like said
Great value

sh*tty selection of games

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 1 month ago '12        #14
Pleasure Boy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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The fact that they're still trying to convince people about the value of Gamepass... This is really like PC gamers who begged console gamers to convert a few years ago... Obviously Paul Tassie is getting paid by Microsoft there's no way a journalist could be this desperate to sell Gamepass and badmouth Sony... Notice how all these journalists never talk sh*t about Nintendo who does exactly the same thing as Sony but Sony is King so they have to come for the throne

Microsoft dont have competition for Gamepass they should be happy they're dominating the rental service market... Let Sony and Nintendo stick to what they do and Microsoft can stick to releasing mediocre games for their target market with low expectations
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 1 month ago '17        #15
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 KURUPTION!!! said
The sh*tty selection of games narrative is just flat out hate at this point. Everything won't be for everyone, but there's definitely something for everyone.
But if you don't want to play MOST of the games, then it's a waste of a monthly payment. It's the same as paying for Netflix but only watching 1 or 2 shows.

Most of the games on Game Pass can be found for dirt cheap. You can just own the games and not have to worry if they will ever remove them Games from Game Pass
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 1 month ago '04        #16
Da Ill One|M  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 justin747 said
But if you don't want to play MOST of the games, then it's a waste of a monthly payment. It's the same as paying for Netflix but only watching 1 or 2 shows.

Most of the games on Game Pass can be found for dirt cheap. You can just own the games and not have to worry if they will ever remove them Games from Game Pass
And you can buy them directly from. Gamepass and save even more money in them
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 1 month ago '05        #17
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 Pleasure Boy said
The fact that they're still trying to convince people about the value of Gamepass... This is really like PC gamers who begged console gamers to convert a few years ago... Obviously Paul Tassie is getting paid by Microsoft there's no way a journalist could be this desperate to sell Gamepass and badmouth Sony... Notice how all these journalists never talk sh*t about Nintendo who does exactly the same thing as Sony but Sony is King so they have to come for the throne

Microsoft dont have competition for Gamepass they should be happy they're dominating the rental service market... Let Sony and Nintendo stick to what they do and Microsoft can stick to releasing mediocre games for their target market with low expectations
This is written by Forbes.

They're a business publication, if you haven't heard of them.
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 1 month ago '12        #18
Pleasure Boy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 Krazie said
This is written by Forbes.

They're a business publication, if you haven't heard of them.
I saw this sh*t yesterday I knew one of you Jehovah's Witnesses would post it
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 1 month ago '05        #19
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 Pleasure Boy said
I saw this sh*t yesterday I knew one of you Jehovah's Witnesses would post it
Why didn't you post it?

No legitimate business articles, just no-name fanboy propaganda, right?
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 1 month ago '17        #20
justin747  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 Da Ill One said
And you can buy them directly from. Gamepass and save even more money in them
It's not really a big savings if I have to pay monthly to access those discounts. So at that point, I can just eliminate the middle man and go straight to the source.

That's why I just buy the games I want. Paying to have access to a bunch of games you don't really want is digital hoarding.

 1 month ago '12        #21
Pleasure Boy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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 Krazie said
Why didn't you post it?

No legitimate business articles, just no-name fanboy propaganda, right?
Coz fu*k Gamepass
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 1 month ago '05        #22
GodzMustBeCrazy  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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It's crazy how no one wants to be considered "broke" on Boxden except for in this section...

I don't mind supporting devs for their work... Nor do I have a real issue with Gamepass...

The issue I have is the narrative that we shouldn't have to pay for games anymore...trust me, that sh*t won't end well if everything went to a subscription model.
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 1 month ago '21        #23
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 Pleasure Boy said
The fact that they're still trying to convince people about the value of Gamepass... This is really like PC gamers who begged console gamers to convert a few years ago... Obviously Paul Tassie is getting paid by Microsoft there's no way a journalist could be this desperate to sell Gamepass and badmouth Sony... Notice how all these journalists never talk sh*t about Nintendo who does exactly the same thing as Sony but Sony is King so they have to come for the throne

Microsoft dont have competition for Gamepass they should be happy they're dominating the rental service market... Let Sony and Nintendo stick to what they do and Microsoft can stick to releasing mediocre games for their target market with low expectations
RDR2 is on game pass, I tried game pass for the first time & for someone who didn’t buy every game when it first dropped this is great.

All the games they showed yesterday is going to be on game pass. No competition. Forza…fam it’s the best consistent game out there.
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 1 month ago '20        #24
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It’s too good to pass up. Sold my ps5 and when i buy another console ill go to the series X.

Gamepass with PC, Xbox, Xcloud.
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 1 month ago '05        #25
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 GodzMustBeCrazy said
It's crazy how no one wants to be considered "broke" on Boxden except for in this section...

I don't mind supporting devs for their work... Nor do I have a real issue with Gamepass...

The issue I have is the narrative that we shouldn't have to pay for games anymore...trust me, that sh*t won't end well if everything went to a subscription model.
You can do both, as the majority of Game Pass users do.

Some of you have seen my library, for example.
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