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Jun 13 - White men who grew up with black neighbors are more likely to become Democrats
 

 

Scientists studying U.S. census rolls from the 1940s have discovered a surprising pattern: White men who grew up one door down from a Black neighbor were more likely to register as Democrats 70 years later — even when compared to other whites from the same neighborhood.

The findings, described in the journal Science Advances, suggest that young boys exposed to people of different backgrounds may grow up to be more liberal-minded adults.

“White men who had a Black neighbor in 1940, compared to white men who did not, are more likely to be a*sociated with racially liberal politics, as indicated by their registration with the Democratic Party even as late as 2017,” the authors wrote.

It’s an idea supported by converging lines of evidence from economics, political science, psychology and sociology, said Linda Tropp, a social psychologist at the University of Massachusetts Amherst who was not involved in the study.

As diversity rises in the U.S. and other western countries, it has been met with stiff resistance from some quarters, said Ryan Enos, a political scientist at Harvard University and one of paper’s lead authors.

“One thing we know from a lot of academic research — and we know this from just our own two eyes — is that there can often be negative consequences of [diversity] because some people aren’t comfortable with it,” Enos said.

Recent history in the U.S. provides a host of examples. Enos pointed to the 2016 election of Donald Trump, a Republican who took office following the nation’s first Black president, Barack Obama, a Democrat.

On the campaign trail, Trump courted voters with rhetoric frequently deemed racist or xenophobic.

It was Trump supporters who led the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol following the former president’s attempts to cast doubt over his reelection loss.

But many researchers argue that the negative reactions to diversity, including discrimination and social and political instability, are short-term effects — and that diverse societies can grow to be very successful in the long run.

Interpersonal relationships are key to that goal, scientists say.

These bonds between individuals across different ethnic groups can help reduce prejudice and lead to more social harmony.

This kind of contact may be especially powerful when those bridges between people are built in adolescence, psychologists say.

But it’s been difficult to measure the long-term effects of social contact between different groups.

Studies have typically measured the effects of this kind of contact within a matter of days.

For this paper, Enos and his colleagues took a much longer view, combining cutting-edge machine learning techniques with U.S. census data from 80 years ago.

The 1940 census, in its attempt to record every person living in the country that year, likely reached roughly 99% of the population.

Workers went door-to-door collecting personal information for residents, including name, age, gender, race, place of birth, years of education, labor earnings and employment status.

(These individual records only recently became available: They aren’t made public for 72 years in order to protect the privacy of the people who respond.)

The scientists then used an algorithm to match as many people from the census as they could with voter file data from California in 2005, North Carolina in 2009 and both states plus Nebraska in 2017.

These three were the only states where citizens provide their place of birth when registering to vote, making it easier to match files.

But in 1940, these same folks were living all over the U.S., providing the scientists with near-blanket coverage of the country.

The scientists used the registered voters’ declared political party as a proxy for political leanings.

They focused on men, who typically kept the same name throughout their lives.

Women, who often changed their surnames after marriage, were harder to track.

Because census workers went door-to-door, residents’ names would appear right by their next-door neighbors on the list, two names away from their neighbor who lived two homes down, and so on.

This meant that the scientists could get an extremely fine-grained look at which individuals had an immediate neighbor of another race.

After examining the records for more than 650,000 white men, the researchers found that those who lived next door to Black neighbors in their youth were 1.5 to 4.2 percentage points more likely be registered Democrats in the 2005/2009 data, and 2.8 to 5.3 percentage points more likely to be Democrats than their peers in the 2017 data.

They were also less likely to be registered Republicans by about the same amount.

Given that Democratic affiliation is a*sociated with more racially liberal politics, the researchers said it may reflect a more liberal outlook on the part of white men who grew up with Black neighbors.

Racial attitudes and partisanship are “highly correlated in the U.S. and other countries, with members of left-of-center parties consistently displaying less ethnic and racial prejudice than members of right-of-center parties,” the authors wrote.

“Indeed, in the United States, anti-Black prejudice was a major driver of the sorting of voters into parties in the mid-Twentieth Century and remains among the strongest predictors of vote choice in recent elections.”

The scientists also ran separate analyses to account for other possible confounding factors:

whether some progressive white families chose to live near Black neighbors;

whether some Democrats were more conservative holdovers from the era of the Southern Democrat, before desegregation and the civil rights era motivated many white Democrats to move to the Republican Party;

and whether the effect held in rural areas, where homes were spaced farther apart.

In all cases, the pattern held.


While the percentages may seem small, they have the potential to make a significant impact, especially when multiplied by the millions of people who lived in the U.S. at the time of the study, Enos said.

“Ask how many more or less people would have different racial attitudes if we had a more or less segregated society at the time — it adds up to a lot,” he said.

Tropp praised the findings’ ability to look at such detailed population data.

The results highlighted the need to be clear on what’s meant by “contact” with people from different backgrounds, she added.

Previously, “what people understood to be contact between members of different groups was kind of a fuzzy concept,” she said.

Some research has shown that having greater proportions of another group in a community can be a*sociated with more negative intergroup attitudes — or greater perceptions of threat posed by that other group, she said.

Simply living in the same neighborhood, no matter how diverse that neighborhood is, may not qualify as real contact.

In fact, it may be counterproductive if it’s not combined with actual person-to-person interaction.

“What I think is really special about this research is that it’s focusing not just at the neighborhood level but at the level of a specific neighbor … so that you’re really getting closer to people’s lived experiences,” Tropp said.

Tyrone Forman, a sociologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, sounded a note of caution, pointing out that the study a*sumes that neighbors of different races had some meaningful interaction.

“That’s a big a*sumption,” he said — particularly considering how segregated much of the United States was at the time.

And although living side-by-side with people of other races or ethnicities may have long-term social benefits, American society may not be integrated enough to take advantage of them, he added.

“We continue to live in a society in which schools are re-segregating,” he pointed out. The urgency to integrate American communities, he added, “is no longer there.”

Tropp agreed.

“At the national scale there’s a heck of a lot of resistance to racial integration,” she said.

“And I think that’s a real problem for our society moving forward.”
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 1 month ago '07        #2
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x56 OP
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we also need a study on the perspectives, philosophies and politics of people who were raised in >90% caucasian areas

we all know, but it's nice to have the data to back it up
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 1 month ago '05        #3
4REAL  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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An article like this from a liberal outlet like the LA Times is nothing but propaganda from their Democratic handlers to keep black people beholden to the Democrats. They are stretching as much as they can to link an a*sociation between the "black" race and the "liberals." These people are so desperate to try to paint the Democratic party as the "party for black people" and the party with "affinity and empathy towards black America" that they'll find a study like this and rrrreeeach as much as they can to keep Black America asleep on the Democrat plantation.

Black people need to reject articles like this that try to play with our psyche in promoting Democrats as "good guys." We weren't born to inherently be Democrats and a white person being a Democrat isn't an automatic sign of solidarity with African-Americans. Many liberal cities and blue states are probably the most segregated and most uninviting places for people that aren't homogeneous to the area (specifically white areas in "liberal places). This promotional flyer for the Democrats posed as an article is pure garbage!


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 1 month ago '21        #4
JayMurdoch  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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that just explains why boxden is so liberal leaning, bunch of whities trying to be black
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 1 month ago '17        #5
Skratch 
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 4REAL said
An article like this from a liberal outlet like the LA Times is nothing but propaganda from their Democratic handlers to keep black people beholden to the Democrats. They are stretching as much as they can to link an a*sociation between the "black" race and the "liberals." These people are so desperate to try to paint the Democratic party as the "party for black people" and the party with "affinity and empathy towards black America" that they'll found a study like this and rrrreeeach as much as they can to keep Black America asleep on the Democrat plantation.

Black people need to reject articles like this that try to play with our psyche in promoting Democrats as "good guys." We weren't born to inherently be Democrats and a white person being a Democrat isn't an automatic sign of solidarity with African-Americans. Many liberal cities and blue states are probably the most segregated and most uninviting places for people that aren't homogeneous to the area (specifically white areas in "liberal places). This promotional flyer for the Democrats posed as an article is pure garbage!
They don’t hear you tho
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 1 month ago '17        #6
Mr Scaramucci  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x156
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Who gives a fu*k
People still fall for the trap, putting their faith into politics acting like someone really gives a fu*k about your a*s
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 1 month ago '16        #7
MadMarlo 
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Jake from training day voted for Obama lol
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 1 month ago '16        #8
MadMarlo 
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 4REAL said
An article like this from a liberal outlet like the LA Times is nothing but propaganda from their Democratic handlers to keep black people beholden to the Democrats. They are stretching as much as they can to link an a*sociation between the "black" race and the "liberals." These people are so desperate to try to paint the Democratic party as the "party for black people" and the party with "affinity and empathy towards black America" that they'll found a study like this and rrrreeeach as much as they can to keep Black America asleep on the Democrat plantation.

Black people need to reject articles like this that try to play with our psyche in promoting Democrats as "good guys." We weren't born to inherently be Democrats and a white person being a Democrat isn't an automatic sign of solidarity with African-Americans. Many liberal cities and blue states are probably the most segregated and most uninviting places for people that aren't homogeneous to the area (specifically white areas in "liberal places). This promotional flyer for the Democrats posed as an article is pure garbage!
The truth makes u upset lol.
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 1 month ago '05        #9
4REAL  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 MadMarlo said
Propganda makes u irritated.
Corrected and correct.
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 1 month ago '16        #10
Proveone  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 4REAL said
An article like this from a liberal outlet like the LA Times is nothing but propaganda from their Democratic handlers to keep black people beholden to the Democrats. They are stretching as much as they can to link an a*sociation between the "black" race and the "liberals." These people are so desperate to try to paint the Democratic party as the "party for black people" and the party with "affinity and empathy towards black America" that they'll find a study like this and rrrreeeach as much as they can to keep Black America asleep on the Democrat plantation.

Black people need to reject articles like this that try to play with our psyche in promoting Democrats as "good guys." We weren't born to inherently be Democrats and a white person being a Democrat isn't an automatic sign of solidarity with African-Americans. Many liberal cities and blue states are probably the most segregated and most uninviting places for people that aren't homogeneous to the area (specifically white areas in "liberal places). This promotional flyer for the Democrats posed as an article is pure garbage!
Yea I mean it has that affect if you're 10yrs old and reading the article. Look the article states the obvious which is at this point democrats have policies that are less xenophobic and more sensitive to issues around race. This doesn't make them heroes or saviors, the democratic party still has a plethora of issues on race amongst other things. The article uses the research to show that exposure to different folks at an early age, allows you the ability to see said group as actual human beings. Now there's all kinds problems with those findings, as they expose the "othering" nature of our and many societies. There's only one party seeking to abolish critical race theory without actually understanding what the school of thought is actually attempting to do. Only one party is attempting to limit the number of people who are eligible to vote, because their policies play towards a shrinking population. This doesn't make Dems good, but it definitely makes Republicans bad. When the core (base) of your party is split 50/50 with folks who embrace explicitly or implicitly white national ideology, your party is either a white national party, or should do some serious soul searching as to why so many of its policies fail in line with white national viewpoints.

Ps didn't mean to slap your post.




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 1 month ago '07        #11
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x56 OP
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 4REAL said
An article like this from a liberal outlet like the LA Times is nothing but propaganda from their Democratic handlers to keep black people beholden to the Democrats. They are stretching as much as they can to link an a*sociation between the "black" race and the "liberals." These people are so desperate to try to paint the Democratic party as the "party for black people" and the party with "affinity and empathy towards black America" that they'll find a study like this and rrrreeeach as much as they can to keep Black America asleep on the Democrat plantation.

Black people need to reject articles like this that try to play with our psyche in promoting Democrats as "good guys." We weren't born to inherently be Democrats and a white person being a Democrat isn't an automatic sign of solidarity with African-Americans. Many liberal cities and blue states are probably the most segregated and most uninviting places for people that aren't homogeneous to the area (specifically white areas in "liberal places). This promotional flyer for the Democrats posed as an article is pure garbage!
all that when all you had to do was say "didn't read"

you ever notice the people who say Dems are bad for black people have no plan to start a party or hold either party accountable?

it's just "Dems don't care dummy" and that's the extent of the conversation, no plan, no nothing

nothing but trying to make it so that MAGA wins
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 1 month ago '07        #12
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x56 OP
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 Mr Scaramucci said
Who gives a fu*k
you do, you cared enough to click the thread and reply

if you didn't care or had better things to do, i wouldn't be replying to you

 1 month ago '13        #13
North!!!  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x8
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Lol this makes me think of Rory

White man that grew up in Hollis Queens
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Top 10 most slapped recently  1 month ago '17        #14
Ymmot  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 yola said
all that when all you had to do was say "didn't read"

you ever notice the people who say Dems are bad for black people have no plan to start a party or hold either party accountable?

it's just "Dems don't care dummy" and that's the extent of the conversation, no plan, no nothing

nothing but trying to make it so that MAGA wins
That dude 4real told me protesting and voting doesn't ever change anything. And when I asked him how he makes change happen he avoided the question. He's a complacent kid who's been brainwashed by far right conspiracy theories.
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 1 month ago '19        #15
zzxxccvvbb 
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Educated white people with no POC friends talk the most about the issue of racism without seeing the irony
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 1 month ago '04        #16
1000bluntz 
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fu*k liberals. fu*k conservatives. I think for myself on every fu*king level, fu*k partisan politics.
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 1 month ago '06        #17
DonYBE 
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 JayMurdoch said
that just explains why boxden is so liberal leaning, bunch of whities trying to be black
How does one try to be black?

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 1 month ago '19        #18
blackadamwarloc  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Conservatives hate Black people nothing new

Conservatives have never nominated a Black person for president or significant office...

They really be trying to finesse y’all... don’t vote for the Dems vote for Conservatives— even tho we will never nominate Black Americans for leadership ever...
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 1 month ago '06        #19
J_Teflon 
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disgusting from news outlets. Race baiting for clicks.
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 1 month ago '15        #20
SmokinBigDope  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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Just because you're more likely to be a democrat, doesn't mean you are any less likely of being a racist white supremacist.

"I learned about roaches "



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 1 month ago '20        #21
fremontitic 
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Republican .. Democrat
Ehh -- yall see what Biden is doing right?
I don't get it ...
Republican = Pig
Democrat = Lipstick on a pig
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 1 month ago '21        #22
Lil Tempus 
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Dumb study. Poor people are more likely to be Democrats
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 1 month ago '07        #23
Deniro732 
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no sh*t

 1 month ago '06        #24
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 yola said
we also need a study on the perspectives, philosophies and politics of people who were raised in >90% caucasian areas

we all know, but it's nice to have the data to back it up
This is BX. Most don’t know what studies or data mean. If they did they’d all be vaccinated.
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 1 month ago '19        #25
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On some sh*t, had I not had a black neighbor as a child (late 80’s/early 90’s), I have no way of knowing if I would have turned out like what also seems to be the majority of other white people ive interacted with. The family’s older son was the first person I ever looked up to outside of my family, and I’m sure that stills shapes my perception to this day. I don’t identify as Dem or Repub, but I know that most white people ive met who complain about other races haven’t really had extended interactions with these people they supposedly hate.
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