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Jun 12 - Tax refunds and stimulus checks delayed by identity fraud crossfire
 

 
Jeff Lavigne plans to use a tax refund this year for long-delayed medical help.

Yet his refund, almost $2,700, has been in limbo since mid-March, when Lavigne filed his tax return, records show.

The IRS flagged the return for potential identity theft — as it did for nearly 2 million Americans last year.

The money has been withheld until Lavigne can verify his identity. The process has proven difficult — phone lines are clogged and online authentication is unavailable.

Lavigne, 42, has chronic back pain that makes work difficult over sustained periods. The former restaurant manager doesn’t have a full-time job or health insurance. An extra $2,700, which includes pandemic stimulus funds, would help pay for monthly premiums and let him visit a specialist.

“I started making plans in my head, in terms of getting the help I need,” said Lavigne, who lives in a suburb of Dallas. “I’m trying to take one step at a time, and this is step one.”

It’s unclear how many taxpayers’ refunds have been delayed during the 2021 filing season. But it’s an issue for a growing number of Americans.

The IRS flagged 5.2 million tax refunds for fraud last year, a nearly 50% increase over 2019, according to the Taxpayer Advocate Service, an independent organization within the IRS.

Of those, about 1.9 million were flagged for identity screening. (The rest were earmarked for income verification.)

Basically, the IRS wants to ensure a crook isn’t using a taxpayer’s identity to claim a tax refund. The agency mails letters (either a 5071C or 6331C letter) to taxpayers if it suspects foul play. The IRS can’t process a tax return or issue a refund until the person responds.

However, most flagged returns aren’t fraudulent. In 2019, 63% of the refunds vetted for identity theft turned out to be legitimate, according to the Taxpayer Advocate Service.

While the IRS ultimately issues the money (with interest) in these cases, taxpayers sometime wait months. About 18% of refunds flagged for identity verification took longer than 120 days to arrive, according to the Taxpayer Advocate Service. (Most take less than 21 days for online filers or six weeks for mailed returns, the IRS said.)

Refund delays were among the top 10 most serious taxpayer problems in 2020, the Taxpayer Advocate Service said.

Dan Herron, a certified financial planner and accountant, waited almost a year for a tax refund after filing his return in 2019, which got flagged for possible identity fraud.

“It was a pretty lengthy, drawn-out process,” said Herron, a principal of Elemental Wealth Advisors in San Luis Obispo, California.

“I wish [the IRS] had something more streamlined,” he added. “They’re so archaic in the way they do things.”

Delays were likely exacerbated by the Covid pandemic since the IRS had to temporarily suspend some of its in-person operations, according to Nina Olson, executive director and founder of the Center for Taxpayer Rights.

And the wait may cost taxpayers more than usual this year. The IRS is using 2020 tax returns to determine eligibility for pandemic stimulus checks and advanced payments of the child tax credit, which will be paid monthly starting in mid-July.

The agency uses information (such as annual income) on a 2019 return if a 2020 return hasn’t been processed. But that may lead to reduced payments — or no payments — depending on a taxpayer’s situation.

“Ultimately they might get their money but they’re not getting their money now,” Olson said.

‘Insufficient resources’
Taxpayer advocates don’t dispute that stopping thieves from ripping off individuals and the government is a worthwhile goal.

“Identity theft has been on this upward curve since 2005,” Olson said. “It’s a huge issue.

“And thieves are getting smarter.”

The IRS fraud measures protected $3.5 billion in revenue in 2019, according to the agency. (About $2.5 billion was due to identity theft filters.)

And 98% of tax returns claiming a refund aren’t ensnared by the process, the agency said.

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 2 months ago '17        #2
FashCashVasquez  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Was there suppose to be 4th stimulus?
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 2 months ago '21        #3
TreueBlutEhre 
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 FashCashVasquez said
Was there suppose to be 4th stimulus?
Still haven't got my third one
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 2 months ago '04        #4
erickonasis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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fu*k man I just finally filed Thursday
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 2 months ago '13        #5
Facts B  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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I filed late March, still aint get my sh*t
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 2 months ago '19        #6
PettyGotAFatty  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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Filed early February still haven’t got sh*t! They sent the CTC thing in the mail today though
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 2 months ago '15        #7
thirssty58  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Meh I owe but they can get it in blood
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 2 months ago '16        #8
SteveO504 
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Got my federal a month after filing got my state last week

filed fed in march state in may
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 2 months ago '16        #9
SteveO504 
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 thirssty58 said
Meh I owe but they can get it in blood
They pinched they fuk outta me too
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 2 months ago '04        #10
Veno da Don 
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They open the gates... Let you in... then slam them shut... It's a setup...
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 2 months ago '04        #11
Veno da Don 
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Oh April got nothing. And currently getting fu*ked by the state in an unrelated situation. Governments run like garbage. Makes you think it's being ran by idiots or some sort of evil...
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 2 months ago '16        #12
postemupndunkit 
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Holding your money meanwhile letting billionaires skate without paying more than a fraction of a fraction.

Hate to see it
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 2 months ago '04        #13
Veno da Don 
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 postemupndunkit said
Holding your money meanwhile letting billionaires skate without paying more than a fraction of a fraction.

Hate to see it
And we all know about. Yet ain't sh*t we can do. Who the fu*k invented this game!?!
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 2 months ago '17        #14
434ta3  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 erickonasis said
fu*k man I just finally filed Thursday
I ain’t the smartest man in the world..but I’m almost sure May 15th was the last day you could file

It’s usually April but since Co-v......
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 2 months ago '17        #15
International1 
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 Facts B said
I filed late March, still aint get my sh*t
Me neither…….still ain’t got my last two stimi’s as well smh. n*gga be checking the Mail on some Color Purple sh*t lol
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 2 months ago '04        #16
erickonasis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 434ta3 said
I ain’t the smartest man in the world..but I’m almost sure May 15th was the last day you could file

It’s usually April but since Co-v......


Absolutely false. I just went to the tax place and did it. I don't owe
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 2 months ago '04        #17
Veno da Don 
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 434ta3 said
I ain’t the smartest man in the world..but I’m almost sure May 15th was the last day you could file

It’s usually April but since Co-v......
You can still file. Don't get me on the specifics but April does have a "last day to file", yet you can still file after.
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 2 months ago '11        #18
nfo187  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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Been waiting on my tax refund and i filed in February..no status through app or website..cant get a hold of anyone through phone. Tried to call and schedule a visit to an irs tax center and it justs ends up telling you basically call volume is too heavy call another time..tried multiple times multiple days.. i legit cant get no answers
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 2 months ago '11        #19
nfo187  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 postemupndunkit said
Holding your money meanwhile letting billionaires skate without paying more than a fraction of a fraction.

Hate to see it

Its Wild..and then im in that bracket where i dont qualify for sh*t (like stimulus) and get r*ped on taxes and they dont understand i do a lot for my family and other families in need that were impacted financially during covid and job losses on bills and food that couldnt get the a*sistance they needed
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 2 months ago '07        #20
Avon_Barksdale  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x104
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 Facts B said
I filed late March, still aint get my sh*t
Same here...

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 2 months ago '07        #21
Avon_Barksdale  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x104
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 nfo187 said
Been waiting on my tax refund and i filed in February..no status through app or website..cant get a hold of anyone through phone. Tried to call and schedule a visit to an irs tax center and it justs ends up telling you basically call volume is too heavy call another time..tried multiple times multiple days.. i legit cant get no answers
This way works, trust me. I just did it last week.

How do you speak to a live person at the IRS?

The IRS telephone number is 1-800-829-1040.
The first question the automated system will ask you is to choose your language.
Once you’ve set your language, do NOT choose Option 1 (regarding refund info). Choose option 2 for “Personal Income Tax” instead.
Next, press 1 for “form, tax history, or payment”.
Next, press 3 “for all other questions.”
Next, press 2 “for all other questions.”
When the system asks you to enter your SSN or EIN to access your account information, do NOT enter anything.
After it asks twice, you will be prompted with another menu.
Press 2 for personal or individual tax questions.
Finally, press 4 for all other inquiries. The system should then transfer you to an agent.



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 2 months ago '11        #22
nfo187  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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 Avon_Barksdale said
This way works, trust me. I just did it last week.

How do you speak to a live person at the IRS?






good looksss!
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 2 months ago '07        #23
Avon_Barksdale  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x104
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 nfo187 said
good looksss!
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 2 months ago '11        #24
LetMeBeGreat 
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Fiancé didn’t receive last years tax refund after we both filed at the same time/place (I got mine)She got the first stimulus then nothing else after that. Mind you, our 2 boys were claimed on that one.


She filed this year same sh*t, still haven’t received anything from both times.

$20k+ in limbo









In all seriousness hopefully we get the money sometime soon.


Last edited by LetMeBeGreat; 06-12-2021 at 03:01 PM..
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 2 months ago '17        #25
Majestic 
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Got the state tax refund within 3 weeks and federal in limbo since March
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