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2020-21 NBA Defensive Player of the Year: Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert🤔🤔



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2020-21 NBA Defensive Player of the Year: Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert🤔🤔
 

 
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 1 week ago '16        #2
BXoldestgoon  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Wtf wow. Shocked Simmons didn’t win. Gobert is a dawg defensively though.

 1 week ago '04        #3
Marcus  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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lmao
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 1 week ago '17        #4
Mario Chalmers  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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Deserved.
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 1 week ago '05        #5
EMPATHY  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x55
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Bd
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 1 week ago '07        #6
Pos 
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3x, that’s pretty damn great
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 1 week ago '05        #7
Stuart Scott  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x17
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Deserved but this is becoming an award that slowly doesn’t matter anymore
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 1 week ago '16        #8
Supreme God  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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Rightful winner, though draymond had a claim to it as well.
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 1 week ago '19        #9
aaf192020 
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He's actually a pretty good one on one defender the best shot blocker in the league. I'm not surprised.
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 1 week ago '11        #10
CALViiiN  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x23
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 1 week ago '17        #11
DonC  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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Dude is stylishly putting in a hall of fame career right infant of our eyes.....ALA Ben Wallace

and he is a better player than Wallace
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 1 week ago '10        #12
Nautilus O  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Ben Simmons spent the whole season trying to convince people he’s a great defender by constantly saying “I’m the DPOY”

apparently not.
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 1 week ago '21        #13
King856 
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 Nautilus O said
Ben Simmons spent the whole season trying to convince people he’s a great defender by constantly saying “I’m the DPOY”

apparently not.
one less excuse on why he sucks offensively
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 1 week ago '10        #14
Nautilus O  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 King856 said
one less excuse on why he sucks offensively
He acts like he spends the off-season working on defense

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 1 week ago '05        #15
jsilerio 
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He showed it that last play. Respect.

 1 week ago '21        #16
King856 
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 Nautilus O said
He acts like he spends the off-season working on defense

But but but he scored 42 on Gobert
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 1 week ago '07        #17
Jumbo Rondo  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x6
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Apparently finishing 2nd for DPOTY makes you not a “great defender”
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 1 week ago '14        #18
Lurker 
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Ask Luka who he thinks should win it. Lol

Ben got robbed.
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 1 week ago '20        #19
RTJ 
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 1 week ago '21        #20
King856 
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 Jumbo Rondo said
Apparently finishing 2nd for DPOTY makes you not a “great defender”
Has nothing to do with him being a great defender. Him refusing to grow offensively because he’s the best defender in the league is bullsh*t. Now he doesn’t have that crutch. Hopefully this puts a little chip on his shoulder. He needs it.

 1 week ago '04        #21
Veno da Don 
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 DonC said
Dude is stylishly putting in a hall of fame career right infant of our eyes.....ALA Ben Wallace

and he is a better player than Wallace
Better than Ben? He gave Don Covid fu*k outta here with that. Almost ruined his damn team playing around. Ben was a serious man, no games no fly zone. Ben top 3 defensive player ever. Foh with that sh*t.
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 1 week ago '20        #22
UncleSpo  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 BXoldestgoon said
Wtf wow. Shocked Simmons didn’t win. Gobert is a dawg defensively though.
can u explain to me what simmons did to deserve this besides suk tons of p*nis in philly?

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 1 week ago '05        #23
rawchester 
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 Stuart Scott said
Deserved but this is becoming an award that slowly doesn’t matter anymore
Nah, it's becoming an analytically driven award. Gobert is great at what he does, protect the rim. Given the way the game is played now though he can be exploited on the defensive end by having a stretch big, or a spread pnr with competent and decisive pnr players.

I understand his value, he single handedly makes that Utah defense good every single year by himself. (name another above avg defender on that team aside from Royce O'neal.. Conley is older now).

The eye test says a guy like Simmons, embiid, Davis, are better given their versatility but you can't really argue with Gobert's overall impact on that end of the floor
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 1 week ago '05        #24
rawchester 
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 Nautilus O said
Ben Simmons spent the whole season trying to convince people he’s a great defender by constantly saying “I’m the DPOY”

apparently not.
He is a great defender, that's not really even debatable. Anything else you're talking about I don't have issue with
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 1 week ago '10        #25
Nautilus O  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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 rawchester said
He is a great defender, that's not really even debatable. Anything else you're talking about I don't have issue with
Might as well get surgical

In NBA Defensive ratings Rudy is 100.5 and Ben Simmons is 106.1. That's a difference of 5.5. And ties him with Clint Capela. and puts him .4 above Draymond (who had more steals and blocks than Ben Simmons did this season, but we'll pretend like Ben is a better defender than Draymond )

That seems great until you look at the rest of the top 10 in Defensive ratings and see his two teammate in the same top 10. Danny Green and Tobias Harris are top 10 in defensive ratings as well. Why is that important?

Royce 0'Neal is 10th in defensive rating. Royce O'Neal is Gobert's teammate. Now Danny Green and Tobias Harris both have more blocks this season than Ben Simmons. Despite popular belief Danny Green is the sixers primary perimeter defender, not Ben Simmons.

Now when you look at the +/- of Ben, Danny and Tobias for the season it's a difference of 17 points between the three of them with Ben at 329 and Danny Green at 312.

When you look Rudy Gobert's +/-

Rudy Gobert has a +/- of 728 which is the highest plus minus out of ALL OF THE DEFENSIVE RATING LEADERS.

His teammate...is 2nd...with....a +/- of...471

That means Rudy Gobert is so dominant defensively, that he pulled a teammate into a top 10 defensive rating, just by being on the floor with him

Ben Simmons is a part of a good defensive team. Rudy Gobert is the team's defense. Thats a great defender.
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