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May 17 - Arab states split for first time on refusal to condemn Israel over Gaza
 

 
Israel and Gaza have pressed closer to all-out war, a new battle for the narrative is being fought among Arab states. For the first time in the many clashes between the Israeli state and the occupied territory, regional unity over who is to blame and what should be done to stop the f*ghting has splintered.

While some states with Muslim majorities, such as Turkey and Iran, have accused Israel of incitement at the al-Aqsa mosque and committing atrocities in Gaza, other countries that had followed suit during previous flare-ups have this time been

The relative silence has been led by states that made peace with Israel in the last year of the Trump administration and are now standard bearers of the so-called Abraham Accords.

The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, which all recently normalised ties with Israel, now find themselves balancing their new relationships against citizens who have been vocal in their anger at Israel’s violence.

Long-time observers of Israel and Palestine say the divergent reactions to this round of f*ghting have put some regional powers in a difficult position with their own populations.

“It is extraordinary, in this denial position of the Emiratis in particular, that they have not uttered hardly a single criticism of what is happening in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories,” said Chris Doyle, director of the Council for Arab-British Understanding (CAABU).

“It is sending out a signal from the Emirati leadership that we are not going to be swayed away from this burgeoning alliance with Israel, which they consider to be valuable to future plans; this includes countering Iran, Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood groups.

“There is plenty of room to make a very supportive statement of the rights of the Palestinians, without endorsing Hamas. And they haven’t done that.”

In what appeared to be a state-backed response, the hashtag “Palestine is not my cause” circulated in the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait over the weekend. It made little dent in region-wide support for Twitter accounts from Gaza and East Jerusalem decrying scenes of violence and the Israeli leadership.

These governments] are on the wrong side of public opinion in how they’re seen and received by the populations of the Arab region,” said Mohanad Hage Ali, research fellow at Carnegie Middle East Centre. “They’re trying to pursue an active foreign policy holding positions that they’ve never had before. They could be seen as synonymous with the Israeli occupation and the Israeli policy in the region. This will have an impact on not only Israel, but their new Arab allies. And this will tarnish their reputation.”

“The regimes are very nervous about Arab public opinion,” said Doyle. “These scenes of the bombing of Gaza will make the leadership seem very worried and make them wish they would end sooner rather than later.”

Coverage of the conflict has been nearly non-existent in UAE newspapers and muted in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, which is yet to sign up to a peace deal with Israel, but has given hints that it may do so. The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, visited Saudi heir, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, in Neom on the Red Sea coast earlier this year. Ties between the two states are deeper than ever – even without concrete moves towards a peace deal.

Riyadh’s position has placed a two-state solution at the centre of any solution – a stance long adopted by the Arab League. It has not chosen more confrontational language than the region’s smaller players. “What we’ve seen in the past is that the king and the crown prince do not necessarily see the conflict in the same way, and the king would be more inclined to be critical.”

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 4 weeks ago '17        #2
lucifershammer  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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That Israeli soft power is paying off
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 4 weeks ago '16        #3
Vega  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 lucifershammer said
That Israeli soft power is paying off
More like nobody wants Palestinian refugees. They are a people without a country.

Jordan and Lebanon could have a*similated Palestinians in 1948 and didnít.

None of the Arab nations helped advance the plight of Palestinian diaspora so theyíre stuck in either WB Gaza or 2nd rate citizens in Israel.
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 4 weeks ago '19        #4
Jadedkiss 
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When it comes to courage, the Somali revolutionary Sayid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan aka “the mad mullah” was once quoted as saying “ Forget about the Arabs they are like women, a bunch of dress wearing men”

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 4 weeks ago '17        #5
Chrispy 
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Israel is like a vice, slowly but surely going to crush these people and take everything they want. And these cowards are gonna stand on the sidelines and try get a trade deal.
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 4 weeks ago '14        #6
Oceans 
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Im not suprised by the morocco as alot of them dont see themselves as arabs
With that said fuc sudan
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 4 weeks ago '05        #7
Emperor85 
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 Vega said
More like nobody wants Palestinian refugees. They are a people without a country.

Jordan and Lebanon could have a*similated Palestinians in 1948 and didnít.

None of the Arab nations helped advance the plight of Palestinian diaspora so theyíre stuck in either WB Gaza or 2nd rate citizens in Israel.
West Bank and Gaza isn't their territories now? .....oh wait i guess people forgot that Israel is illegal occupying those areas under International Court of Justice
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 4 weeks ago '12        #8
mars15  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x26
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Itís simple, these Gulf dictators donít wanna get Gaddafiíd so theyíre playing ball.
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 4 weeks ago '17        #9
LostTenets  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x46
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 Vega said
More like nobody wants Palestinian refugees. They are a people without a country.

Jordan and Lebanon could have a*similated Palestinians in 1948 and didnít.

None of the Arab nations helped advance the plight of Palestinian diaspora so theyíre stuck in either WB Gaza or 2nd rate citizens in Israel.
Sounds like the story of someone else I know
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 4 weeks ago '17        #10
LostTenets  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x46
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America k*lled and regime changed so many people over there


People talk about Democrats this and democrats that as if the reign of Republican bushes wasnt 1 or 2 presidents ago


That's how you know when your rhetoric comes straight from the brainwash department


Y'all didn't care about the fake war in Iraq, y'all was ok with just k*lling muslims.
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 4 weeks ago '18        #11
Jamescoencio 
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I say this as someone who has friends from Palestine and it really pains me to admit this: we're witnessing a gradual takeover of that entire area. Palestinians will never return to their original homes, despite having a somewhat moral upperhand (and growing support internationally). But prayers and words of solidarity can only take you so far. The expansion of settlements will not cease. Generations of Palestinians will continue to be born without having a country of their own. Flawed and opportunistic groups like Hamas will continue their counterproductive activities. Netanyahu and Hamas are just symptoms of a bigger problem thatis unlikely to be resolved. The endless news cycle, theoretical debates and documentaries will resolve nothing. Fostering greater unity among leading Arab nations (including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Syria) could help drive will much needed discussions about the lasting peace between these troubled neighbours. However, at the cost of hundreds of lives that are being interrupted before they have begun, there doesn't seem to be much appetite for such talks to take place.

These are just my two cents. At The end of the day, the ball is in the court of the higher-ups. Hopefully someone there will try out a much-need new approach to this issue.
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 4 weeks ago '05        #12
Emperor85 
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Palestinian right of return isn’t antisemitism. It’s UN Resolution 194.


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 4 weeks ago '08        #13
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 LostTenets said
America k*lled and regime changed so many people over there


People talk about Democrats this and democrats that as if the reign of Republican bushes wasnt 1 or 2 presidents ago


That's how you know when your rhetoric comes straight from the brainwash department


Y'all didn't care about the fake war in Iraq, y'all was ok with just k*lling muslims.
Fr fr bruh mfís said sadaam had WMDís and 20 years later thereís no proof of that and WE are still there
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 4 weeks ago '16        #14
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 Emperor85 said
West Bank and Gaza isn't their territories now? .....oh wait i guess people forgot that Israel is illegal occupying those areas under International Court of Justice
Palestinians can’t even agree on who they want to lead them between West Bank and Gaza. Gaza is run by Hamas and West Bank by Fatah. Neither can Israel (5 Knesset elections in 2 years)

If you want to actually look past the social media nonsense you will realize that Israel and Palestine BOTH have elections this year.

Bibi most likely will not retain power in Israel Bc he cannot form a coalition govt meaning the centrist parties will have to use the Israel Arab parties to gain the 61 seat majority which is a HUGE POSITIVE for Palestine.

However these recent clashes now put all that into doubt. It’s a damn shame.

On the flip side, Palestine postponed their elections Bc and Hamas acting up in retaliation will only strengthen their claim to winning West Bank too. Good luck brokering any peace w a Hamas WB and Gaza along w Israel remaining under Bibi.

Gaza is fully under Palestine control. Egypt and Israel aren’t fu*king with Hamas hence the blockades. West Bank is another issue altogether given that the ruling party there is more amiable towards Israel.


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 4 weeks ago '16        #15
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 Emperor85 said
Palestinian right of return isnít antisemitism. Itís UN Resolution 194.


Should have accepted the initial British mandate for 2S solution in 1947. Instead people underestimated Israel and itís been fu*ked ever since.
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 4 weeks ago '05        #16
Emperor85 
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 Vega said
Palestinians canít even agree on who they want to lead them between West Bank and Gaza. Gaza is run by Hamas and West Bank by Fatah. Neither can Israel (5 Knesset elections in 2 years)

If you want to actually look past the social media nonsense you will realize that Israel and Palestine BOTH have elections this year.

Bibi most likely will not retain power in Israel Bc he cannot form a coalition govt meaning the centrist parties will have to use the Israel Arab parties to gain the 61 seat majority which is a HUGE POSITIVE for Palestine.

However these recent clashes now put all that into doubt. Itís a damn shame.

On the flip side, Palestine postponed their elections Bc and Hamas acting up in retaliation will only strengthen their claim to winning West Bank too. Good luck brokering any peace w a Hamas WB and Gaza along w Israel remaining under Bibi.

Gaza is fully under Palestine control. Egypt and Israel arenít fu*king with Hamas hence the blockades. West Bank is another issue altogether given that the ruling party there is more amiable towards Israel.
hows Bibi corruption case going?
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 4 weeks ago '19        #17
aaf192020 
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Bottom line is fxck the Israeli government and whoever supports it. They're literally using the same tactics Hitler used against Jewish people in Germany.


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 4 weeks ago '16        #18
Vega  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Emperor85 said
hows Bibi corruption case going?
The only thing keeping his a*s out of some form of jail is being PM apparently.

 4 weeks ago '07        #19
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x48
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 Vega said
Palestinians canít even agree on who they want to lead them between West Bank and Gaza. Gaza is run by Hamas and West Bank by Fatah.
one look at our elections shows Americans can't either

an oppression driven power vacuum is not an excuse to strip people of their land
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 4 weeks ago '15        #20
Tully Blanchard 
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 Oceans said
Im not suprised by the morocco as alot of them dont see themselves as arabs
With that said fuc sudan
Yeah had a few friends from Morocco in college and some them mfers had the worst identity issues Sudan kind of surprised me though
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 4 weeks ago '15        #21
Tully Blanchard 
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 mars15 said
Itís simple, these Gulf dictators donít wanna get Gaddafiíd so theyíre playing ball.

 4 weeks ago '19        #22
Excalibur 
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The lack of unity among the arabs was what led to that land being given to the Israelis in the first place. Arabs act very similar to Africans. Never united on anything
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 4 weeks ago '16        #23
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 yola said
one look at our elections shows Americans can't either

an oppression driven power vacuum is not an excuse to strip people of their land
When one party is widely regarded as a terrorist organization and the other is open to negotiations w Israel then it comes an actual issue. Same for Israel, a centrist PM taking over from Bibi is a win

 4 weeks ago '15        #24
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 Excalibur said
The lack of unity among the arabs was what led to that land being given to the Israelis in the first place. Arabs act very similar to Africans. Never united on anything
Africa is super massive for one, the infrastructure isn't that great for two, and 3rd but most important, there are different types of people from different countries with different languages all over Africa. Most of them have similar shades of skin but thats where the similarities end, why do people think "Africas" should be united?
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 4 weeks ago '17        #25
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UAE, Bahrain, and Saudi have always been silent Israeli partners.
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