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 1 month ago '04        #1
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Aaron Rodgers vs Tom Brady: Number of WR as Drafted in the 1st Round
 

 

Zero.

2 things:

1. I'm not fact checking the tweet. Taking it at face value.
2. a*suming it's true, there's an asterisk because they traded for Moss, Cooks, etc.

Packer fan to the core, Rodgers guy to the core -- hope they extend him. But... this narrative of "get Rodgers more weapons" just puts the spotlight on casual fans or people attempting the worst hot take possible.

Brady took pay cuts to bring in guys. I don't see Rodgers doing that. That's part of what makes Brady the GOAT. Rodgers is more talented, but Brady is the GOAT (as of today).
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 1 month ago '18        #2
back1  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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Brady’s organization was better run all around. Goat coaches on both sides of the ball, attention to detail, guys getting brought in in FA on both sides of the ball, trading guys who don’t play for guys who do, plus a consistently trash a*s division they slept walked through for over a decade. Basically on offense, all the teams in that AFC East have been the bears.

sh*t it’s still the second worst division in football. The jets, Dolphins, and pats are trash. The bills are good now for the first time since the early 90s.

Gtfoh
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 1 month ago '04        #3
chctynig2804 
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The Packers found guys that turned into pretty good receivers though. Draft round is just that. Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Davante Adams and Randall Cobb were pretty damn good in my opinion. So yes I agree that it is a lazy a*s take that GB never tried to get him weapons. Rodgers has had a pretty good team around him the majority of his career but it just speaks to how difficult it is to win a Super Bowl with Brady being the exception.
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 1 month ago '04        #4
x Tha Arkitek x  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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For anyone wondering what the picks were...

Green Bay
2006 5 A. J. Hawk # LB Ohio State
2007 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
2008 — No pick — — [gg]
2009 9 B. J. Raji # DT Boston College
2009 26 Clay Matthews III # LB Southern California [hh]
2010 23 Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
2011 32 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
2012 28 Nick Perry DE Southern California
2013 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
2014 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix # S Alabama
2015 30 Damarious Randall S Arizona State
2016 27 Kenny Clark NT UCLA
2017 — No pick — — [tj]
2018 18 Jaire Alexander # CB Louisville
2019 12 Rashan Gary DE Michigan
2019 21 Darnell Savage Jr. S Maryland
2020 26 Jordan Love QB Utah State
2021 29 Eric Stokes CB Georgia

Patriots

2002 21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado aa
2003 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M bb
2004 21 Vince Wilfork † Miami (FL) cc
32 Benjamin Watson TE Georgia
2005 Logan Mankins † OG Fresno State
2006 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2007 24 Brandon Meriweather † S Miami (FL) dd
2008 10 Jerod Mayo † LB Tennessee ee
2009 — No pick — — ff
2010 27 Devin McCourty † CB/S Rutgers gg
2011 17 Nate Solder OT Colorado
2012 21 Chandler Jones † DE Syracuse
25 Dont'a Hightower † LB Alabama
2013 — No pick — — hh
2014 29 Dominique Easley DT Florida
2015 32 Malcom Brown Texas
2016 — No pick — — ii
2017 — No pick — — ii


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 1 month ago '04        #5
D1nOnlyMrM@  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 x Tha Arkitek x said
For anyone wondering what the picks were...

Green Bay
2006 5 A. J. Hawk # LB Ohio State
2007 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
2008 — No pick — — [gg]
2009 9 B. J. Raji # DT Boston College
2009 26 Clay Matthews III # LB Southern California [hh]
2010 23 Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
2011 32 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
2012 28 Nick Perry DE Southern California
2013 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
2014 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix # S Alabama
2015 30 Damarious Randall S Arizona State
2016 27 Kenny Clark NT UCLA
2017 — No pick — — [tj]
2018 18 Jaire Alexander # CB Louisville
2019 12 Rashan Gary DE Michigan
2019 21 Darnell Savage Jr. S Maryland
2020 26 Jordan Love QB Utah State
2021 29 Eric Stokes CB Georgia

Patriots

2000 14 Bubba Franks # TE Miami
2001 10 Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State [ee]
2002 20 Javon Walker # WR Florida State [ff]
2003 29 Nick Barnett LB Oregon State
2004 25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
2005 24 Aaron Rodgers ‡ # QB California
2006 5 A. J. Hawk # LB Ohio State
2007 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
2008 — No pick — — [gg]
2009 9 B. J. Raji # DT Boston College
2009 26 Clay Matthews III # LB Southern California [hh]
2010 23 Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
2011 32 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
2012 28 Nick Perry DE Southern California
2013 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
2014 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix # S Alabama
2015 30 Damarious Randall S Arizona State
2016 27 Kenny Clark NT UCLA
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 1 month ago '04        #6
FynaL 
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You are missing the point. Rodgers is more so annoyed that they drafted a QB in the first round. Another QB does NOT help Rodgers in ANY SORT OF WAY.
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 1 month ago '04        #7
x Tha Arkitek x  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 D1nOnlyMrM@ said
Might wanna edit this
Fixed
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 1 month ago '06        #8
Trap$tar 
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So defend ARod at all costs and saying he needs more receiver help then when he wants out after 16 years it’s well we actually did get him help and he should have took pay cuts lol.
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 1 month ago '04        #9
regularjoe  OP
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 FynaL said
You are missing the point. Rodgers is more so annoyed that they drafted a QB in the first round. Another QB does NOT help Rodgers in ANY SORT OF WAY.
Who cares? Jimmy G was drafted in the second round, Love was a late first. Not some drastic difference.

Rodgers had the number one ranked offense. How much more help do you need? Why isn't the narrative "Rodgers couldn't get ONE YARD in three positions after turnovers in the second half"? Rodgers isn't going to play forever. If Love sits for 3 years, like Rodgers did, Rodgers would be 40 when he took over. Exactly what everyone in the situation wants.


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 1 month ago '04        #10
regularjoe  OP
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 Trap$tar said
So defend ARod at all costs and saying he needs more receiver help then when he wants out after 16 years it’s well we actually did get him help and he should have took pay cuts lol.
A lot of Packer fans, myself included, have been saying you've had plenty of help. Historically, it's been the defense letting him down, and they drafted to fix that. If you wanna say that Packers failed because of that -- then there's an argument to that. But to say the Packers failed for not getting Rodgers weapons, is bullsh*t.
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 1 month ago '04        #11
chctynig2804 
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People also need to look at it from GBs perspective prior to the 2020 season too. He missed half the year in 2017 with an injury and in 2018 and 2019 their offense was league average and Rodgers posted 2 of his 3 worst years for completion percentage and his worst years as far as TD passes go. So yea based on those 3 seasons it makes perfect sense that GB would start planning for the future(right or wrong). Obviously Rodgers goes out and has an MVP season in 2020 which makes GB look stupid in hindsight but I dont think it was a bad move. People just put their blinders on when it comes to Rodgers
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 1 month ago '17        #12
Prodigital SC  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x15
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Patriots also didn't draft a QB in the 1st round during that period either
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 1 month ago '16        #13
uncleDrew 
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I mean Rodgers had Jennings, driver, jordy, Adams, Lacy. Does it matter if they were in the first round or not?
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 1 month ago '04        #14
dre03 
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 back1 said
Brady’s organization was better run all around. Goat coaches on both sides of the ball, attention to detail, guys getting brought in in FA on both sides of the ball, trading guys who don’t play for guys who do, plus a consistently trash a*s division they slept walked through for over a decade. Basically on offense, all the teams in that AFC East have been the bears.

sh*t it’s still the second worst division in football. The jets, Dolphins, and pats are trash. The bills are good now for the first time since the early 90s.

Gtfoh
It's hilarious how those coaches are considered GOATs after Brady... But Belichick before Brady got there didn't even have a winning record lol... With that same team they were 5-11

And he had Drew Bledsoe at QB... The year Brady took over the Pats started the season 0-2 with Bledsoe before Brady started... 5-13 before Brady... 11-3 after Brady started

So it's pretty obvious that it wasn't the organization mainly... Otherwise they would have been good before Brady started... We just credit the organization to try and take away from Brady

Which is why he left them just to prove the Patriot way is Brady not Belichick...
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 1 month ago '04        #15
dre03 
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 FynaL said
You are missing the point. Rodgers is more so annoyed that they drafted a QB in the first round. Another QB does NOT help Rodgers in ANY SORT OF WAY.
You mean like drafting Jimmy G to replace Brady?

Or even more ironic drafting Rodgers to replace Favre...

Rodgers is acting like a baby getting mad at the organization for doing to him what they did to Favre... He was fine with drafting QBs while a HoF QB is still playing in their later stages when it benefited him... But now you telling me when it's happening to him he wants to bi*ch about it

Gtfoh...

 1 month ago '20        #16
BuiltForThis  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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Who is the closest to Moss the Packers went after that was already in the league and established?


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 1 month ago '16        #17
Proveone  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 FynaL said
You are missing the point. Rodgers is more so annoyed that they drafted a QB in the first round. Another QB does NOT help Rodgers in ANY SORT OF WAY.



 1 month ago '04        #18
x Tha Arkitek x  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 dre03 said
It's hilarious how those coaches are considered GOATs after Brady... But Belichick before Brady got there didn't even have a winning record lol... With that same team they were 5-11

And he had Drew Bledsoe at QB... The year Brady took over the Pats started the season 0-2 with Bledsoe before Brady started... 5-13 before Brady... 11-3 after Brady started

So it's pretty obvious that it wasn't the organization mainly... Otherwise they would have been good before Brady started... We just credit the organization to try and take away from Brady

Which is why he left them just to prove the Patriot way is Brady not Belichick...
I'm a big Brady fan...but let's not act like Belichick didn't just get there him self. Tom Brady's 1st season starting was Bill's 2nd season as head coach

Before calling Bill a bum w/o TB12, I'm at least willing to give him a pandemic-free full season with Cam and/or Mac. I don't see things working out with Cam at QB though...


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 1 month ago '04        #19
strat 
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This is a sh*tty analogy. The Patriots never relied upon Tom to win games the same way the Packers need Rodgers to win games. The Pats win with defense, special teams, superior coaching, cheating whatever it takes. The Packers want Rodgers on some hero ball sh*t.

And when the Pats wanted Tom to win on some hero ball sh*t, he complained and bumped heads with the organization.

Also, yeah the Pats drafted Jimmy g, and Tom complained to the owner and got his a*s traded.

 1 month ago '04        #20
strat 
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 dre03 said
You mean like drafting Jimmy G to replace Brady?

Or even more ironic drafting Rodgers to replace Favre...

Rodgers is acting like a baby getting mad at the organization for doing to him what they did to Favre... He was fine with drafting QBs while a HoF QB is still playing in their later stages when it benefited him... But now you telling me when it's happening to him he wants to bi*ch about it

Gtfoh...
When the Pack drafted Rodgers they were average AF and he kept talking about retirement and didnt commit to coming back.

When the Pack got Love they were in the fu*king AFC Championship game the last year, had a long term obligation with Rodgers and had obvious team needs to fix that could have won them the chip the next year.

 1 month ago '04        #21
chctynig2804 
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 Prodigital SC said
Patriots also didn't draft a QB in the 1st round during that period either
They did spend a 2nd round on Jimmy G though. 1st and 2nd round QBs mean that the organization has plans for them to take over. You just dont waste premium draft picks on guys you expect to be on the bench their entire rookie deals.

Not to mention Brady felt threatened enough by Jimmy G that he got him traded
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 1 month ago '17        #22
dubsax 
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Brady's wife is one of the biggest reasons why the pats were able to do well.



If she does earn 30 million a year on her own there is no way they get away with Tom being the 15-16th highest paid qb during that time
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 1 month ago '04        #23
FynaL 
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 regularjoe said
Who cares? Jimmy G was drafted in the second round, Love was a late first. Not some drastic difference.

Rodgers had the number one ranked offense. How much more help do you need? Why isn't the narrative "Rodgers couldn't get ONE YARD in three positions after turnovers in the second half"? Rodgers isn't going to play forever. If Love sits for 3 years, like Rodgers did, Rodgers would be 40 when he took over. Exactly what everyone in the situation wants.
Are you saying there isn't a big difference between being drafted 26th (Love) vs 62nd (Jimmy G)?

Forget about number one ranked offense & stats for a second. Using the eye test - do you think they need a 2nd receiver/playmaker? because everyone else thought so.

 1 month ago '05        #24
projectd06 
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We acting like Bill Belichick doesnt exist. 1 a*s patriots team and hes not going down as one of the greatest head coaches of all time? The dude is a defensive genius.

There is no questioning the pay cuts that Brady took to bring talent around him is something Aaron wont do and doesnt help his argument, but them superbowls were not carried by Tom alone.

I've always had issue with the packers build within bullsh*t when they come off great seasons and do nothing. Plus the patriots trade all their picks away to bring in talent.

 1 month ago '04        #25
regularjoe  OP
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 FynaL said
Are you saying there isn't a big difference between being drafted 26th (Love) vs 62nd (Jimmy G)?

Forget about number one ranked offense & stats for a second. Using the eye test - do you think they need a 2nd receiver/playmaker? because everyone else thought so.
A difference? Sure. Some life altering difference? No.

The eye test? Forget about numbers? They were the top ranked offense, you don't just ignore that for the eye test. Would you like the to be "super number one" instead of number one?

There's also the money aspect of this. You wanna pay Adams, you got a steal contract in Jones, you made Bak the highest paid LT, you couldn't keep Linsley, you're gonna have to pay Jenkins.

On top of that... you pay Clark, Alexander, and you wanna extend Smith and I think Amos contract isn't light. So where the fu*k is this surprise money coming from to get Julio Jones or whoever the fu*king people expect?


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