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 2 months ago '18        #1
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The night Floyd Mayweather “proved he was The Best Ever
 

 
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Floyd Mayweather became “The Best Ever” on May 2nd of 2015 as the five-weight undefeated boxing champion defeated Manny Pacquiao.

That’s the view of long-time right-hand man Leonard Ellerbe, who even predicted it would happen before they fought over six years ago.

Sadly, the build-up and the process of actually getting both in the ring was a painful one. When it happened, the consensus was they were past their prime.

Mayweather saw Pacquiao not only as a cash cow but the cherry on top of his legacy. Taking the stand to state his case, Ellerbe outlined their mission.

“The worldwide attention and interest in this event have been unbelievable, and Floyd and Manny deserve it,” said Ellerbe.

“Las Vegas has a rich history of hosting the biggest and best f*ghts in the sport. Over the years, Floyd Mayweather has made the MGM his home.

“This will be his 11th consecutive f*ght at MGM Grand and the 14th in his career

On complaints about the length of time, it took the f*ghters to step inside the ropes. Finally, Ellerbe added: “There are two great f*ghters that will be f*ghting on Saturday night.

“The focus needs to be on the f*ghters, no one else. The focus is on the f*ghters on Saturday night.

“On May 2, Floyd faces another huge challenge in fellow world champion Manny Pacquiao, in a f*ght that the whole world is waiting to see.

“Once again, Floyd is out to prove that he is The Best Ever, and I know he will on Saturday night.”

Of course, Ellerbe was correct, but not without a dampener on events. Floyd saw out a textbook points win. However, Pacquiao threw a final spanner in the works.

At the post-f*ght press conference, the Filipino Senator poured cold water over the win, giving his fans ammunition to use against Mayweather forever.


Stating he fought with a shoulder injury throughout the f*ght, Pacquiao looked to make sure a rematch took place. Floyd Mayweather didn’t take the bait.

Now, six years on, the pair are further away than ever from meeting in a professional contest again. With the exhibition circus raging, you can never rule out a second installment completely.

Ellerbe considers Mayweather “TBE” – of that. There is no doubt. The only trouble is how many agree with him?

There’s a solid argument to “TBDE” (The Best Defensive Ever), but the debate will rage on for decades to come.


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 2 months ago '06        #2
philly337  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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By beating a pac who at the time got faceplanted by Marquez, hadn't knocked anybody out in years and just fought Bradley hitting him flush and couldn't even phase him

Yea....no
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 2 months ago '07        #3
pete jr 
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 philly337 said
By beating a pac who at the time got faceplanted by Marquez, hadn't knocked anybody out in years and just fought Bradley hitting him flush and couldn't even phase him

Yea....no
No other f*ghter had an easy time with PAC. Marquez got up off the Anna’s and was almost stopped when he got the knockout
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 2 months ago '06        #4
philly337  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 pete jr said
No other f*ghter had an easy time with PAC. Marquez got up off the Anna’s and was almost stopped when he got the knockout
One, Marquez was like 40, lost his next f*ght, had one more f*ght then retired

Two its not about Marquez dominating him its abput getting knocked out cold. Typically f*ghters are never the same after that

Three, there was never a point pac could beat Mayweather in 12 round decision. The matchup was intriguing years earlier because of manny being a southpaw with a lightning fast straight left and crazy power matched with Mayweather who had been hurt the few times tagged and was more susceptible of being hit by southpaws...by the time they met it wasn't the manny who was knocking dudes out every time he touched them. It was the manny outworking guys to decisions which didn't stand a chance against Mayweather

May isn't the goat but if you feel he is this is not a good example of a f*ght to use as the defining moment. If anything it would feed into the stigma of him waiting to f*ght guys on losses that people wanted to see years earlier always having something surrounding why the best f*ght wasnt being made at the best time


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 2 months ago '09        #5
dweezy 
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 philly337 said
One, Marquez was like 40, lost his next f*ght, had one more f*ght then retired

Two its not about Marquez dominating him its abput getting knocked out cold. Typically f*ghters are never the same after that

Three, there was never a point pac could beat Mayweather in 12 round decision. The matchup was intriguing years earlier because of manny being a southpaw with a lightning fast straight left and crazy power matched with Mayweather who had been hurt the few times tagged and was more susceptible of being hit by southpaws...by the time they met it wasn't the manny who was knocking dudes out every time he touched them. It was the manny outworking guys to decisions which didn't stand a chance against Mayweather

May isn't the goat but if you feel he is this is not a good example of a f*ght to use as the defining moment. If anything it would feed into the stigma of him waiting to f*ght guys on losses that people wanted to see years earlier always having something surrounding why the best f*ght wasnt being made at the best time
May didn't f*ght people coming off loses he fought must opponents coming off big wins. But ur boy Pac did
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 2 months ago '06        #6
philly337  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 dweezy said
May didn't f*ght people coming off loses he fought must opponents coming off big wins. But ur boy Pac did
Not my boy

Not sure why you're so defensive

But no...Mayweather fought most of his big f*ghts years after people were calling for it and after losses..

Ive been over this like 50 times so not going to have the same drawn out convo and listing all his f*ghts...

Cotto (years after people wanted to see and beat with bricks in his gloves Margarito)

Zab (years after everybody wanted to see kod by Kosta and beat by bum a*s Baldomir)

Pac (see prior post)

There's other f*ghts guys wanted to see that never happened like freitas/casamayora/spedafora ect...

Then you got guys like Oscar and mosley that were well past their prime

Then you have good f*ghters like Marquez and canelo but Canelo young and and Marquez was catchweight

Then the guys he did f*ght in their prime that were solid like Corrales and castillo...Corrales he knew he'd beat him because of amatuers and Castillo he thought was a journeyman (and really lost the first f*ght)

Now all of those aren't his fault and Marquez and canelo are two of his biggest wins and again not his fault just what it is...I already know all the excuses about calling mosley out before and all this thats not my point...where there smoke theres fire and when you have so many big f*ghts to be made and they never get made when people want to see it you have to look at the common denominator...

Hes doin it now but its accepted...hes f*ghting all these little exhibitions because he knew as he was aging one of these guys might clip him. Instead of still f*ghting he wanted to protect that record. He did it a lot during his career but on the professional level..he never took the big risk f*ght and took the least risk with the biggest payday...smart business move but when were talking legacies Nd goat have to call a spade a spade
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 2 months ago '09        #7
dweezy 
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 philly337 said
Not my boy

Not sure why you're so defensive

But no...Mayweather fought most of his big f*ghts years after people were calling for it and after losses..

Ive been over this like 50 times so not going to have the same drawn out convo and listing all his f*ghts...

Cotto (years after people wanted to see and beat with bricks in his gloves Margarito)

Zab (years after everybody wanted to see kod by Kosta and beat by bum a*s Baldomir)

Pac (see prior post)

There's other f*ghts guys wanted to see that never happened like freitas/casamayora/spedafora ect...

Then you got guys like Oscar and mosley that were well past their prime

Then you have good f*ghters like Marquez and canelo but Canelo young and and Marquez was catchweight

Then the guys he did f*ght in their prime that were solid like Corrales and castillo...Corrales he knew he'd beat him because of amatuers and Castillo he thought was a journeyman (and really lost the first f*ght)

Now all of those aren't his fault and Marquez and canelo are two of his biggest wins and again not his fault just what it is...I already know all the excuses about calling mosley out before and all this thats not my point...where there smoke theres fire and when you have so many big f*ghts to be made and they never get made when people want to see it you have to look at the common denominator...

Hes doin it now but its accepted...hes f*ghting all these little exhibitions because he knew as he was aging one of these guys might clip him. Instead of still f*ghting he wanted to protect that record. He did it a lot during his career but on the professional level..he never took the big risk f*ght and took the least risk with the biggest payday...smart business move but when were talking legacies Nd goat have to call a spade a spade
Every f*ght he took was a risk. I remember a lot of these boxing analyst would say this is an dangerous f*ght for Mayweather but after he beats them that's when the excuses come the f*ghter was to slow he was to old he didn't have enough experience. Floyd was just on another level he just made these great f*ghters look like amateurs
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 2 months ago '06        #8
philly337  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 dweezy said
Every f*ght he took was a risk. I remember a lot of these boxing analyst would say this is an dangerous f*ght for Mayweather but after he beats them that's when the excuses come the f*ghter was to slow he was to old he didn't have enough experience. Floyd was just on another level he just made these great f*ghters look like amateurs
Na buddy that aint going to work with me...most "analyst" are clowns. I can pull posts before a lot off f*ghts you mentioned saying they were a joke. The Guerrero and Ortiz type f*ghts were sparring partners and said before the f*ght. "Analysts" who don't know sh*t would call for floyd to f*ght a guy like Margarito but guys who knew oxing knew Margarito wasn't on that level...there too many f*ghters like that that analyst big up that aren't as good as they say...all I'm saying is his resume doesn't stack with other guys in the goat convo...and its not because the competition wasn't there its because he don't f*ght them when they were. Lets look at his biggest victories.. tell me which one was an all time great in their prime?

Pac (past prime)
Mosley (past prime)
Oscar (past prime)
Cotto (past prime)
Zab (past prime)
Canelo (young and catchweight)
Marquez (maybe give you this one but catchweight)
Castillo (good one but thought he was journeyman)
Corrales (good but already knew he'd win from amateurs)
Gatti (never that good)
Hatton (anybody who knew boxing knew what Hatton was...props on taking this f*ght though because is prob the only f*ght in his career where he fought a top guy in their prime fans were calling for)
Gatti

Thats it...when you really go through his resume its not bad but a lot of those guy he had a chance to f*ght in their prime...he beats Zab, cotto and pac in their prime (and prob would have) now you can talk goat convo...but he didnt step up


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 2 months ago '16        #9
MasterLord466 
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What are Mike Tysons notable wins ?
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 2 months ago '16        #10
Ghostface Killa  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Best defensive f*ghter yea

Purest points per round f*ghter, no doubt


But GOAT boxer, nah

I would never go back and watch one of his old f*ghts.
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 2 months ago '06        #11
illstate11 
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 philly337 said
Na buddy that aint going to work with me...most "analyst" are clowns. I can pull posts before a lot off f*ghts you mentioned saying they were a joke. The Guerrero and Ortiz type f*ghts were sparring partners and said before the f*ght. "Analysts" who don't know sh*t would call for floyd to f*ght a guy like Margarito but guys who knew oxing knew Margarito wasn't on that level...there too many f*ghters like that that analyst big up that aren't as good as they say...all I'm saying is his resume doesn't stack with other guys in the goat convo...and its not because the competition wasn't there its because he don't f*ght them when they were. Lets look at his biggest victories.. tell me which one was an all time great in their prime?

Pac (past prime)
Mosley (past prime)
Oscar (past prime)
Cotto (past prime)
Zab (past prime)
Canelo (young and catchweight)
Marquez (maybe give you this one but catchweight)
Castillo (good one but thought he was journeyman)
Corrales (good but already knew he'd win from amateurs)
Gatti (never that good)
Hatton (anybody who knew boxing knew what Hatton was...props on taking this f*ght though because is prob the only f*ght in his career where he fought a top guy in their prime fans were calling for)
Gatti

Thats it...when you really go through his resume its not bad but a lot of those guy he had a chance to f*ght in their prime...he beats Zab, cotto and pac in their prime (and prob would have) now you can talk goat convo...but he didnt step up
Hit em with that truth. And they got the nerve to hate on canelo cus he do the same sh*t now. The #1 p4p always call they own shots in boxing when they runnin it.
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 2 months ago '09        #12
RichYung757 
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People still not trying to say mayweather is the GOAT? Sheesh what more does he need to do
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 2 months ago '05        #13
ChickzNKickz 
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The Goat

One thing I noticed about fans is that they wait until an athlete is dead and gone to really appreciate their greatness.

 2 months ago '20        #14
HubrisOfMan 
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 philly337 said
One, Marquez was like 40, lost his next f*ght, had one more f*ght then retired

Two its not about Marquez dominating him its abput getting knocked out cold. Typically f*ghters are never the same after that

Three, there was never a point pac could beat Mayweather in 12 round decision. The matchup was intriguing years earlier because of manny being a southpaw with a lightning fast straight left and crazy power matched with Mayweather who had been hurt the few times tagged and was more susceptible of being hit by southpaws...by the time they met it wasn't the manny who was knocking dudes out every time he touched them. It was the manny outworking guys to decisions which didn't stand a chance against Mayweather

May isn't the goat but if you feel he is this is not a good example of a f*ght to use as the defining moment. If anything it would feed into the stigma of him waiting to f*ght guys on losses that people wanted to see years earlier always having something surrounding why the best f*ght wasnt being made at the best time
I hope you don't have carpal tunnel.
Floyd invented boxing
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 2 months ago '21        #15
Tlatoani  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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His resume at 147+ looks worse and worse as time goes by.
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 2 months ago '10        #16
WC323 
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You cant be the best ever if you're strategy is run the while fu*king time. Floyd is a fraud.

 2 months ago '12        #17
44wade  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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 dweezy said
Every f*ght he took was a risk. I remember a lot of these boxing analyst would say this is an dangerous f*ght for Mayweather but after he beats them that's when the excuses come the f*ghter was to slow he was to old he didn't have enough experience. Floyd was just on another level he just made these great f*ghters look like amateurs
He literally took no risks. He was huge favorite every f*ght. There was no drama in his f*ghts.
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 2 months ago '05        #18
rellish 
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 Ghostface k*lla said
Best defensive f*ghter yea

Purest points per round f*ghter, no doubt


But GOAT boxer, nah

I would never go back and watch one of his old f*ghts.
Who's the GOAT boxer to you?

 2 months ago '14        #19
MomsDigMe 
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Most people don’t know sh*t about boxing
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 2 months ago '07        #20
michelleski495 
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He's boring af to watch
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 2 months ago '09        #21
dweezy 
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 44wade said
He literally took no risks. He was huge favorite every f*ght. There was no drama in his f*ghts.

All f*ghters that get in the ring is taking an risk u can get hurt real bad even die I respect all f*ghters for just getting in the ring and doing what they do for an living. Floyd was an underdog against Diego Corrales and Floyd was an slight favorite Against Genaro Hernandez. But the real question is this what f*ght would Floyd not be considered the favourite?
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 2 months ago '07        #22
stogz 
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He became TBE when he cashed that pacman f*ght check

 2 months ago '16        #23
solo 
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 44wade said
He literally took no risks. He was huge favorite every f*ght. There was no drama in his f*ghts.
Two Bullsh*t statements

First off how many f*ghts was Roy Jones not the favorite in ...not many.How many f*ghts was Lennox Lewis not the favorite in?How many times was Ward not the favorite? How many times has Canelo not been the favorite?If your the consensus p4p best your going to be the favorite that’s how it works....

And obviously you’ve never saw Floyd f*ghts if you say they never had drama in them....Floyd v Augustus, Floyd v Corley, Floyd v Judah, Floyd v Castillo, The Cotto f*ght, the Maidana f*ght...it’s not his fault that he dominated a lot of great f*ghters, that he never got laid out, he was the best of his generation hands down oh well.


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 2 months ago '18        #24
Rugby Jones  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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Also, most of the (past they're prime) f*ghters he fought
May was also Past His Prime so...........


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 2 months ago '20        #25
HubrisOfMan 
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 44wade said
He literally took no risks. He was huge favorite every f*ght. There was no drama in his f*ghts.
You got slapped for telling the truth...........
I mentioned months ago that Floyds closest f*ght odds were De La Hoya who he was still much favored to win against.



Worse thing about his fans is they believe EVERY word he says regarding boxing.

He just as much as anyone had f*ghts he dodged.
BUT THAT IS BOXING.

Its only annoying when people say this about someone else while praising Floyd in the same sentence.
Floyd is retired, its time to stop comparing active f*ghts to Floyd when the heir apparent is doing the same thing he was (alot of f*ghts adopted this as well)


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