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Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack ,King Tut all involved in Pacs 94 shooting


 


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 05-19-2005, 02:47 PM         #26
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pac went at nas because he stole his beat (street dreams was released after all eyes on me) and because of the line he says in the message about getting shot and leaving the hospital the same night, which pac really did. It was this coupled with people saying he was the best on the east along with biggie/mobb.

It started when pac dissed nas and mobb deep in the vibe interview when he was in prison

 14 years ago '04        #27
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 Killinit said
I know Nas says sh*t like that, but I dont think its true, I dont know the reason that he went at him, maybe just cause he was another New York guy or cause Big and Nas chilled at times, but I dont think they ever squashed it and I dont think he was gonna take Nas's name off the song, I think nas just says that sh*t now after pac is dead cause who could argue its his word agains a dead guy, nas doesnt want to seem like a bi*ch so he talks about how they squashed it

You gotta respect Pac he went at everyone and none of these guys went back at him, he called out Jay-Z, Nas, Big, Puffy, Mobb deep, its crazy that none of these guys really went back at him, I mean I love Jay-Z's music and am a big fan, but I gotta say in that whole situation he really looks like a bi*ch if you look at it, I mean he tries to act hard now like he doesnt let anyone get away with sh*t, by taking those subliminal shots at Game in Dear Summer, by going at Nas in the takeover, but when he got called out by Pac, he didnt do sh*t

True it is his word, so we really dont know if its squashed or not. Thnks Fam for the input.

 05-19-2005, 02:51 PM         #28
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 BigJay.inc said

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In a $25 million dollar federal lawsuit against Combs, former Bad Boy president Kirk Burrowes claimed that Wolf was part of a network of thugs called "The Enterprise," which forced him to sign over his 25% interest in the company.

Burrowes claimed Wolf was the alleged triggerman that shot and k*lled an a*sociate of Marion "Suge" Knight in Atlanta, at an after hours party in 1995.

Police said the investigation is ongoing and more arrests are likely.

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yea thats why suge was hot at bad boy.....they k*lled big frank...i think his name was...he is on dead homies doc movie.

but i seen dude on smack...damn

 05-19-2005, 02:54 PM         #29
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 Killinit said

You gotta respect Pac he went at everyone and none of these guys went back at him, he called out Jay-Z, Nas, Big, Puffy, Mobb deep, its crazy that none of these guys really went back at him, I mean I love Jay-Z's music and am a big fan, but I gotta say in that whole situation he really looks like a bi*ch if you look at it, I mean he tries to act hard now like he doesnt let anyone get away with sh*t, by taking those subliminal shots at Game in Dear Summer, by going at Nas in the takeover, but when he got called out by Pac, he didnt do sh*t
false....

mobb deep,nas,biggie,puffy and jay-z did diss 2pac.....

 05-19-2005, 03:14 PM         #30
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 ~:Makaveli:~ said
false....

mobb deep,nas,biggie,puffy and jay-z did diss 2pac.....

i know drop a gem on em is def about pac but what other songs by those people man?

 05-19-2005, 03:16 PM         #31
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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mobb deep - drop a gem on em (no name mentioned)
nas - some rare freestyle (think he says makaveli once) dedicates about 1/2 a bar to him
biggie - one track on life after death (no names) and one bar on brooklyns finest
jay-z - can't remember sh*t off the top of my head. don't think he even mentioned it

now that he's dead they can't keep his name out of their mouths

 05-19-2005, 03:26 PM         #32
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 RicFlair said
i know drop a gem on em is def about pac but what other songs by those people man?
CHINO XL was the only one to openly diss Pac... and BWOY WAS THAT A DISS... Anyone else heard that freestyle? Where rips teh shiiiit out of Pac... and promptly states "There's no beef, there's no beef" Respect Chino for beein the only n**ga to openly diss Pac several times when he was alive and say his name. Others didn't really do that. But Chino got a LOT of hate after Pac died (mainly because the Jersey affiliation with Pac and Chino being from Jersey)

lol.. Some dudes still hate on Chino for that, but dude has since admitted publicly that Pac is one of his heroes.

 05-19-2005, 03:51 PM         #33
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prove it then, and not something where you believe it was going after him, show me a line from each guy where they mention his name
 ~:Makaveli:~ said
false....

mobb deep,nas,biggie,puffy and jay-z did diss 2pac.....

 14 years ago '05        #34
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^ yeh, i heard some low quality freestyle from Chino dissin' Pac...if we talkin' about the same one, that was a hell of a diss

and about the Nas thing...

'Dug em you owe me cousin somethin told me plug him
So dumb, felt my leg burn, then it got numb
Spun around and shot one, heard shots and dropped son
Caught a hot one, somebody take this biscuit ’fore the cops come
Then they came askin me my name, what the fu*k
I got stitched up and went through
Left the hospital that same night, what
Got my gat back, time to backtrack
I had to drop so how the fu*k I get clapped' - Nas

if Pac really used that as fuel to diss Nas, then i think he was reaching a bit...Nas still bi*ch for not responding, but i think that there is more to it than that line...probably being one of the top n*ggas in New York, like someone said before.

AND, someone said earlier that Nas probably sayin' that they squashed the beef 'cause no one can dispute that...but on 'One never knows' he shouts out:

"me and 2Pac confronted each other/and discussed our likes, and dislikes/ in front of Suge Knight/and left it as brothers..."

im pretty sure Suge would have called him out, if sh*t didnt go down like that...they all still bi*ches for not responding...interesting story though

 14 years ago '04        #35
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bad boy did diss pac eventhopugh most ppl try and act like badboy was so innocent in the entire thing. bad boy had a mixtape a long time ago and on the intro they were playing hit em up and puffy was talking over it and just goin off on pac. he was basically calling him a pu**y and sayin that he knew who really shot him and if he wanted to get at em then he knew where to find em. i cant remember thename of the mixtape but it does exist because it was on boxden about a year ago. it was around the time that ppl were posting pacs disses and posting the ppl that dissed pac.

as for nas, pac said himself that he had beef with nas because he met him at the house of blues and told him "nas this east/west sh*t aint got nun to do with u..iwe got luv for u", he said him and nad slapped 5 or whatever nd it was all good but when nas got back in ny he started callin pac a fake thug and takin subliminal shots at him". this came out of pacs on mouth and it was mentioned on "in his own words" interview and he also goes into depth about the nas situation in the last interview he did b4 he got shot when he started callin himself makaveli. some ppl say that him and nas later squashed the beef but snoop said that it wasnt really squashed it was just that pac called nas out in NY in central park or somewhere like that, and basically punked nas. snoop said that pac was like "look i told u this aint have nun to do with u" nas was like "pac i aint got no beef with u man i swear i love ur music and respect what ur doing" and pac replied "well then its like this i gotta song thats dissin u, biggie and whoever else...its already made and if u aint gotta problem with it then dont respond and i wont go at u anymore". snoop said that he was there and angie martinez was there and that nas had his crew there, pac had his crew and snoop also had his crew there. and angie asked him to come to the radio station to speak about it, he went there and said he aint have nun to so with it that he has luv for puffy, biggie and those n*ggas...and pac heard the interview and that is when he and pac stopped talking and like 2 or 3 days later is when pac was k*lled. this interview was on allhiphop.com a while back. so to the best of my knowledge this is what happened but i wasnt there so.........

but all the dumbsh*t aside the entire thing was not a rap beef...that was real street sh*t, from Black Mafia, Tut, Hatian Jack, and all them motherfu*kas


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 05-19-2005, 06:27 PM         #36
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De La Soul never responded to Pac diss either...

"All you old rappers tryin to advance/it's all over now take it like a man
n*ggas lookin like Larry Holmes Flabby & sick"(*Pac hollars in the background "look at De La Soul"*)

 05-19-2005, 07:02 PM         #37
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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^^ i always thought that line was directed at LL cool j

anyone know what started that??

"LL cool J, n*gga what?, i rock your motherfu*kin bells n*gga, me and my lil homies"

 14 years ago '04        #38
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^^^^ i think ll said sumn bout pac not being a real thug...but i also think it came about b/c pac showed ll luv in "old school" and ll was on "i shot ya" and pac took that sh*t as a diss too because biggie made "who shot ya". they say it was a coincedence but thats a lotta mistakes if u ask me. pac gets shot...then "who shot ya" and "i shot ya" drops

 14 years ago '04        #39
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prove it then, and not something where you believe it was going after him, show me a line from each guy where they mention his name
Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On 'Em (Hell On Earth) - Whole Song

Notorious B.I.G. - Dangerous M.C.'s (Original) - "And the winner is / Not that thinner kid / bandanas tattos / my fists never bruise..."
"Dangerous you're not / I gets down / twist your body round and round, upsidedown"

Long Kiss Goodnight (Life After death) - "When my men bust / you just move with such stamina / slugs missed ya / I ain't mad at 'cha"

Brooklyn's Finest (Reasonable Doubt) - "If Faith have twins she'll probly have 2 Pacs"

Jay-Z - Dead Or Alive Pt. 1 (DJ Clue Tape) - "See a n*gga dissin me ain't nuthin new understand / but it's how i retaliate which defines who i am / Jay-Z / ain't nothin dead or alive playin me / i take beef to the grave thats how my momma raised me / she told me / f*ght in the afterlife never revamp your stories / so heaven and hell n*ggas better have some answers for me / hollerin sh*t from '89 / Hawaian Sophie / god damn ya'll been on my d*ck a long time"

Dead Or Alive Pt. 2 (DJ Clue Tape) - "On the celly bumpin Makavelli / I hold no grudge / you dis me i diss you - whut / love is love"

 14 years ago '04        #40
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good thread,the Pac shootings were never laid out for me like this, threadstarter gets props

 05-19-2005, 08:43 PM         #41
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 BackBlock_OG said
Tut used to walk around East New York with Pac's chain on, ask any real n*gga from Brooklyn, they'll tell you. Haitian Jack's Wyclef's godfather, so that's how the Fugees got dragged in that sh*t. Pac shouted some real Brooklyn exhortion n*ggaz on that track, and he knew there was gonna be reprocussions. I had a new respect for Pac also after I heard that sh*t, and found out what was really going on. Most people thought it was on some east coast vs. west coast sh*t, but Pac was on some survival sh*t. He knew death row was the only unit strong enough to hold him down; and he still got popped. That's why I'm positive Suge set up B.I.G.


Funny sh*t is tho....Word is Suge holla's @ Bmf Now for some "help" now...This what k*ll's me....n*ggas scream 50 cent's is snitch...cuz of what he said on records about murder Inc....BUT 2pac did the EXACT same thing and n*ggas dont say he's a snitch....


And Bmf & Atl n*ggas is newbies????.....Let me explain somethin' to you and any REAL STREET n*gga will co-sign it....(Ask BackBlock OG if sh*t im sayin' is False).....As Much Money & Power them n*ggas hold ACROSS the Country do u really think dem n*ggas is NEWBIES?????....The n*gga Meech aint even from ATL....He just been there since '89....The n*gga is from Detriot...Yeah Bmf is DEEP IN DETRIOT.....and Black Mafia ....and Black Mafia Family.....You do the math n*gga 2 + 2 = 4 right?


and Bmf is all across the country n*gga....and been around probably longer than anybody on this site has been born


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 14 years ago '04        #42
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good info

 14 years ago '04        #43
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if u listen to the last 2 interviews that pac did, "in his on words" and the 1 that was on the thug immortal dvd he tells u whats really goin on in deeper detail...he even says "what it is is that them east coast drug deelears got them n*ggas under extortion and i came and fu*ked up everything". he was also sayin sumn that they wanted him to join badboy and he said no, and talked about it in an interview in the news papers and they were also heated at him about that.


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 14 years ago '04        #44
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pac's murder was a set-up n*ggaz know who k*lled him we'll neva know

 14 years ago '04        #45
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 Lettaz said
Funny sh*t is tho....Word is Suge holla's @ Bmf Now for some "help" now...This what k*ll's me....n*ggas scream 50 cent's is snitch...cuz of what he said on records about murder Inc....BUT 2pac did the EXACT same thing and n*ggas dont say he's a snitch....


And Bmf & Atl n*ggas is newbies????.....Let me explain somethin' to you and any REAL STREET n*gga will co-sign it....(Ask BackBlock OG if sh*t im sayin' is False).....As Much Money & Power them n*ggas hold ACROSS the Country do u really think dem n*ggas is NEWBIES?????....The n*gga Meech aint even from ATL....He just been there since '89....The n*gga is from Detriot...Yeah Bmf is DEEP IN DETRIOT.....and Black Mafia ....and Black Mafia Family.....You do the math n*gga 2 + 2 = 4 right?


and Bmf is all across the country n*gga....and been around probably longer than anybody on this site has been born
^^^ difference is pac never indicted anybody like 50p did. sure pac said names but he never said ________ sold drugs, and ______ was the business man and _____ was a k*ller.

pac just said sh*t like "and u can tell them ppl u roll with whatever u want but u and i kno whats goin on" but 50 damn near did everything put handcuff n*ggas pac aint never tell any1s street business like that he may have put things in code but only the ppl in the streets new what he was talkin bout (ex: gunshots to tut) but he never arrested n*ggas like 50 so u cant make that comparison.

 05-20-2005, 02:08 AM         #46
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these guys had something to do with Pac's 94 shooting but not his death, cause when he was with DR there is no way these dudes could have touched him. Suge was in a whole different league to these dudes, he had 20% of LAPD working for him and he was deep in that gangsta sh*t, so they couldn't touch pac, the only person that could touch pac was Suge at that time, and i think he did!

 05-20-2005, 02:59 AM         #47
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 TrapBoi said
^^^ difference is pac never indicted anybody like 50p did. sure pac said names but he never said ________ sold drugs, and ______ was the business man and _____ was a k*ller.

pac just said sh*t like "and u can tell them ppl u roll with whatever u want but u and i kno whats goin on" but 50 damn near did everything put handcuff n*ggas pac aint never tell any1s street business like that he may have put things in code but only the ppl in the streets new what he was talkin bout (ex: gunshots to tut) but he never arrested n*ggas like 50 so u cant make that comparison.


How he never indicted nobody when 2pac went in the NY TIMES(NEWSPAPER) and said HATIAN JACK,KING TUT AND BLACK MAFIA IS EXTORTING BIGGIE & PUFFY.....fu*k THEM DONT PAY THEM sh*t....Why u think Pac got his a*s shot in ny?...If u could read the paper about 93/94...YOU WOULD KNOW IN PLAIN ENGLISH WHAT HE WAS SAYING....Oh yeah....and Hatian Jack and King Tut are in Federal jails right now (They brought King tut back up from feds in va)....and Supposely there gettin' charge with sh*t about pac...


P.S. And the lil quote u said....Thats from "Ghetto Quran"...WHich came out about 99....The Prince was already doin' LIFE IN THE FEDS for murder....and Preme had just came home from 10 year bid in 97'....So the Feds didnt need that sh*t to make a case against Supreme Team when they Knocked them in the Late 80's & early 90's....lol...Feds got n*ggas snitchin',video confiscated,paperwork and documents,wiretaps,clone pagers on deez n*ggas...Plus Preme is BIG BOY who got light sentence....Did he really think or any n*gga think he was goin come home and feds wasnt goin be on his a*s?

 05-20-2005, 03:04 AM         #48
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 logicalkid said
these guys had something to do with Pac's 94 shooting but not his death, cause when he was with DR there is no way these dudes could have touched him. Suge was in a whole different league to these dudes, he had 20% of LAPD working for him and he was deep in that gangsta sh*t, so they couldn't touch pac, the only person that could touch pac was Suge at that time, and i think he did!


n*gga Run a Search on BLACK MAFIA.....and then re-think the sh*t u saying about NOBODY CAN TOUCH HIM


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 14 years ago '04        #49
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 Lettaz said
The n*gga Meech aint even from ATL....He just been there since '89....The n*gga is from Detriot...Yeah Bmf is DEEP IN DETRIOT.....and Black Mafia ....and Black Mafia Family.....You do the math n*gga 2 + 2 = 4 right?
Bm......Meech......is from/born NYC

Source: Im the Truth bi*ch.............

 05-20-2005, 04:07 AM         #50
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 The Majestic said
Bm......Meech......is from/born NYC

Source: Im the Truth bi*ch.............


So Im guess u saying HE lying about where's he from .......

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