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 05-19-2005, 02:31 AM         #1
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logicalkid 
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Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack ,King Tut all involved in Pacs 94 shooting
 

 
Damn itís like I know bits and pieces about this from what Tupac has mentioned, from what Cease said on Chronicles of Junior Mafia, they all hinted towards Pac involving himself with some dangerous dudes and such and such, then the r*pe sh*t in 94 as well some of these names were called out as well, seems like these dudes was trying to extort pac and because he didnít let it happen dudes set him up.



Also Black Mafia Family was also extorting Puff from what I hear as well, they had bad boy on lock and it was the guy who runs Black Mafia Family who k!lled Puffs cousin Anthony Wolf Jones but he beat the case.


Can anyone give some more info on this sh*t, I wanna know what went down


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In a recent article in Source magazine, Walter Johnson (aka Tut) denies a connection to Tupac's shooting. Tut was mentioned in "Against All Odds" where Tupac raps, "gun shots to Tut, now you stuck." 50 Cent also references the incident stating "When Pac got shot, I got a kite from the pen saying Tut got knocked." Many people believe that it was Tut's connection to Puffy, and Black Mafia ties, that were behind Tupac's first shooting in 1994.

In the article Tut states that he was framed by people in the industry who blamed him to "prevent themselves from falling." Tut later implies police corruption, "I might not have all the answers, but I'm quite sure I have something that's very, very important for the rap world to feel. It takes a criminal to catch a cop just like it takes a cop to catch a criminal."

92 comments for "Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack ,King Tut all involved in Pacs 94 shooting"
 13 years ago '04        #2
Mangudai 
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I remember syne mentioning shyne too....hmm

Out of all the crazy theories. This one actually makes sense!

 05-19-2005, 03:44 AM         #3
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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yeah i made a thread about this recently, but most people don't even know the facts you stated.

on makaveli, pac mentions all three of the names you said

"gunshots to tut"

"Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchmen, in due time
I knew you bi*ch n*ggaz was listening, The World is Mine"

and

"A real live tale
About a snitch named hatian jack
Knew he was working for the feds"

also in an interview just before he died, he said he names all of the people who set him up on the makaveli album

I think biggie etc knew that tut etc was gonna set him up and didn't say sh*t. thats why he was pissed with bad boy.

I also heard King tut was murdered a few years back, but if he was recently in the source, i guess it was untrue

the thing which makes me wonder is that Jimmy henchmen is Game's manager and owns Henchmen entertainment which a lot of mainstream artist have ties with (probably extortion / protection money links)

Also Hatitian Jack sued Pac's estate for millions after pac died as he says he cannot find a job now that everyone thinks he's an informant.

If anyone has any other info, post it up, i've been interested in this sh*t for almost 10 years

 05-19-2005, 04:47 AM         #4
logicalkid  OP
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 KILOCHARLIE said
yeah i made a thread about this recently, but most people don't even know the facts you stated.

on makaveli, pac mentions all three of the names you said

"gunshots to tut"

"Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchmen, in due time
I knew you bi*ch n*ggaz was listening, The World is Mine"

and

"A real live tale
About a snitch named hatian jack
Knew he was working for the feds"

also in an interview just before he died, he said he names all of the people who set him up on the makaveli album

I think biggie etc knew that tut etc was gonna set him up and didn't say sh*t. thats why he was pissed with bad boy.

I also heard King tut was murdered a few years back, but if he was recently in the source, i guess it was untrue

the thing which makes me wonder is that Jimmy henchmen is Game's manager and owns Henchmen entertainment which a lot of mainstream artist have ties with (probably extortion / protection money links)

Also Hatitian Jack sued Pac's estate for millions after pac died as he says he cannot find a job now that everyone thinks he's an informant.

If anyone has any other info, post it up, i've been interested in this sh*t for almost 10 years
and all a these dudes knew each other which makes it even more believeable,but biggie knew what was going down but was scared to talk.


the guy who murdered puff cousin from BMF, his name is Meech

 05-19-2005, 05:47 AM         #5
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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yeah he's the head guy of BMF isn't he?

Its strange as they;re Black Mafia Family, but puff pays money to the Black Mafia in New york for protection. I wondered if both gangs are linked and puffy refused to keep paying them so they popped his new bodyguard or something?

 05-19-2005, 06:37 AM         #6
DJT  OP
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Damn.... for the first time since the shooting, i'm seeing a clearer picture of what went down now. That's why Pac gets the respect... even though these dudes were gangstas and k!llas he still went ahead and said what was on his heart. I can't knock that at all...

Some may look at that as a suicide mission, but i say If you can't die for something
you believe in..........

 05-19-2005, 07:07 AM         #7
logicalkid  OP
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 DJT said
Damn.... for the first time since the shooting, i'm seeing a clearer picture of what went down now. That's why Pac gets the respect... even though these dudes were gangstas and k!llas he still went ahead and said what was on his heart. I can't knock that at all...

Some may look at that as a suicide mission, but i say If you can't die for something
you believe in..........

its deep, i just want a clearer picture..........straight

 13 years ago '04        #8
DBlockinemOut 4 heat pts
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man, puff owed BMF alot of money back then...

he had a big problem betting on basketball

lol he musta had faith in the knicks or somethin...
cause rumors were back then, he was just signing over his checks from ready to die
to them

pac's 94 shooting is still a bit of a mystery... i think it had alot to do with his fatal shooting... i think the same people were onvolved... at least in planning... but i still will never understand how 1 car can shoot at 1 car, and no one fires back...

 05-19-2005, 08:43 AM         #9
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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So BMF and the black mafia in New york are the same sh*t?

I thought that Meech and them in ATL were newbies

I always thought that the 94 shooting had nothing to do with pac or big's murder as that had suge's name written all over it imo

 13 years ago '04        #10
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Tut used to walk around East New York with Pac's chain on, ask any real n*gga from Brooklyn, they'll tell you. Haitian Jack's Wyclef's godfather, so that's how the Fugees got dragged in that sh*t. Pac shouted some real Brooklyn exhortion n*ggaz on that track, and he knew there was gonna be reprocussions. I had a new respect for Pac also after I heard that sh*t, and found out what was really going on. Most people thought it was on some east coast vs. west coast sh*t, but Pac was on some survival sh*t. He knew death row was the only unit strong enough to hold him down; and he still got popped. That's why I'm positive Suge set up B.I.G.


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 13 years ago '04        #11
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 DJT said
Some may look at that as a suicide mission, but i say If you can't die for something
you believe in..........
yup. better to die for something that live for nothing

 05-19-2005, 08:50 AM         #12
KILOCHARLIE  OP
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 BackBlock_OG said
Tut used to walk around East New York with Pac's chain on, ask any real n*gga from Brooklyn, they'll tell you. Haitian Jack's Wyclef's godfather, so that's how the Fugees got dragged in that sh*t. Pac shouted some real Brooklyn exhortion n*ggaz on that track, and he knew there was gonna be reprocussions. He had a new respect for Pac also after I heard that sh*t, and found out what was really going on. Most people thought it was on some east coast vs. west coast sh*t, but Pac was on some survival sh*t. He knew death row was the only unit strong enough to hold him down; and he still got popped. That's why I'm positive Suge set up B.I.G.
always wondered why he dissed the fugees, props for that. I coulda swore he was briefly in a Lauryn hill video a couple of months after his death too, dunno what that was about.

Pac was offered to go to deathrow many times before all this too if i remember right. i guess he had no choice when it comes to getting bail and providing protection, but as you say, he jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.

was pac's chain that cross he used to wear? i heard they didn't take his rolex for some reason. maybe coz he was with them when he bought it.

 05-19-2005, 08:57 AM         #13
logicalkid  OP
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Uppin

 13 years ago '04        #14
m_cullins 64 heat pts64
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M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pac was k!lled because he was to smart for his own good and he was Bigger Than hip hop look @ he's ties Black Pather, Suge, BMF he smart and he got money a n*gga like that can't live the MAN won't let him. sh*t look @ his people they put a mill up for her i would like to see Jay or Puffy say i'm putting up a mill for the person who k!lled Biggie.

 13 years ago '04        #15
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This is the sh*t i been thinking since listening to the Makaveli album sh*t is crazy but its believeable.

 05-19-2005, 11:18 AM         #16
dagreatss  OP
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dam dis sh*t gettin kinda clear now i head that dat n*gga big meech was da real owner of bad boy south, i know da n*gga jeezy is part of da bmf. so maybe this was puffs way of payin his debt off to da bmf, let dem n*ggas invest in a legit record label to wash that dirty money.

jus my theory

 05-19-2005, 12:22 PM         #17
FreddyNoNose  OP
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Pac was under lotta pressure by BMF, but I was wondering why nodody from the black panthers reached out to him and protect pac?

 13 years ago '04        #18
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One man has been apprehended and police are seeking another suspect in connection with a double homicide in the Buckhead section of Atlanta, which left a former bodyguard for Sean "P.Diddy" Combs and another man dead.

Demetrius Flenory (MEECH for short...), 35, of New York, was arrested for the murders of Anthony "Wolf" Jones and Lamont Girdy, both 38 years-of-age.

Flenory was charged with two counts of murder after an argument that started in club Chaos turned into violence as the crowd left the establishment around 4 A.M.

Witnesses told police that an argument over a woman may have sparked the shooting. The manager of Chaos claimed that an unidentified woman and her date entered the club around 1 A.M. and were met by the woman's ex-boyfriend.

According to the manager, the man started harassing the couple, prompting security guards to ask him to leave. Police said the man waited outside of the club for three hours.

After the shooting, police found at least 24 shell casings and bullet holes in nearby business establishments. Jones had $7,000 in his pocket and Girdy had $5,000.

"There's still a lot that we have to do," Police Chief Richard Pennington said Tuesday night. "People we have to talk to because we know that there's more than one gunman involved in this."

Shortly after the shooting, Flenory and another man arrived at North Fulton Reginal Center seeking treatment from gunshot wounds. Felnory was arrested but the other man, who had a wound to his foot, was not detained.

"We think it could have been some feud or something, but we don't know. They had lots of cash, we do know that," Pennington added.

Police said that their investigation is ongoing and that expect to make more arrests.

Jones and Comb's were acquitted in March or 2001 of gun possession and bribery charges, which were the result of an altercation inside of Club New York in New York City that injured three people.

Jamaal "Shyne" Barrow was convicted of various a.ssault and weapons charges in the incident.

In a $25 million dollar federal lawsuit against Combs, former Bad Boy president Kirk Burrowes claimed that Wolf was part of a network of thugs called "The Enterprise," which forced him to sign over his 25% interest in the company.

Burrowes claimed Wolf was the alleged triggerman that shot and k!lled an a.ssociate of Marion "Suge" Knight in Atlanta, at an after hours party in 1995.

Police said the investigation is ongoing and more arrests are likely.


 13 years ago '04        #19
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All that is known is that them BMF cats have alot of pull down there....the rumor back in the day was that they provided seed money for Bad Boy and used the label to wash dirty money....

the world is too small as it is.....they are all very closely connected to pac's shooting, Big's shooting, and any other murder linked to badboy and/or deathrow...

 13 years ago '04        #20
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Can anyone tell me the real reason why he went at Nas. That seems to always get swept under the rug when talking about Pac. I know I was reading some sh*t about it was a big misunderstanding and they squashed it and Pac was going to take his name off the song, but then he got popped. Whats the story behind that?

 13 years ago '04        #21
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Mane this sh*t is wild.................ya'll didn't hear on I think the latest mixtape from Boyz in the Hood(think its on DJ SCREAM) how they was naming all n*ggas down south and saying he helped start all them mutha fu*kers

 05-19-2005, 01:27 PM         #22
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I believe it is Tut and Black Family mafia who initially put up the money for Puffy to start the label Bad boy, and thats why they were extorting him after, they were just getting their moneys worth for what they helped create

 05-19-2005, 01:40 PM         #23
Killinit  OP
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I know Nas says sh*t like that, but I dont think its true, I dont know the reason that he went at him, maybe just cause he was another New York guy or cause Big and Nas chilled at times, but I dont think they ever squashed it and I dont think he was gonna take Nas's name off the song, I think nas just says that sh*t now after pac is dead cause who could argue its his word agains a dead guy, nas doesnt want to seem like a bi*ch so he talks about how they squashed it

You gotta respect Pac he went at everyone and none of these guys went back at him, he called out Jay-Z, Nas, Big, Puffy, Mobb deep, its crazy that none of these guys really went back at him, I mean I love Jay-Z's music and am a big fan, but I gotta say in that whole situation he really looks like a bi*ch if you look at it, I mean he tries to act hard now like he doesnt let anyone get away with sh*t, by taking those subliminal shots at Game in Dear Summer, by going at Nas in the takeover, but when he got called out by Pac, he didnt do sh*t
 thefranchise9 said
Can anyone tell me the real reason why he went at Nas. That seems to always get swept under the rug when talking about Pac. I know I was reading some sh*t about it was a big misunderstanding and they squashed it and Pac was going to take his name off the song, but then he got popped. Whats the story behind that?

 05-19-2005, 01:45 PM         #24
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Do you know how much it takes to start a successful label? A lot of cash. If you don't have the cash the major companies won't fu*k with you, neither will good quality artists (look at half them lame a.ss vids on BET UnCut). For BadBoy, murder Inc., and NoLimit, as well as deathrow, somebody had to front a lot of money.Most of the people who came up with the cash came off the streets, see for them a record label, a successful one at that is the perfect front to "wash" all that "dirty" cash. You cant help but respect Pac bucause he stood for something and paid the ultimate price for it, he didn't hide and die on his knees a bi*ch. He is the true definition of a THUG.


By the way somebody asked why Pac went at Nas. Nas tried to live Pac's life in his rhymes. After Pac was shot the first time, Nas claimed the he was shot as many times as Pac was. I still believe Suge had somthing to do with Pac's death, maybe BMF paid him off, we all know " money talks bullsh*t walks", so maybe the came with an offer hu couldn't refuse.

One more thing fu*k Puffy, P-sh*tty,Diddy whatever he calls himself now.

 05-19-2005, 01:46 PM         #25
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 logicalkid said
Chronicles of Junior Mafia, . "
up that homie.
 BackBlock_OG said
That's why I'm positive Suge set up B.I.G.
yea man this sh*t is deep than hell in high water homie....

if you watch the 2pac & big doc movie, the bloods from the lapd set biggie up, but at the same time the feds was watchin biggie crew.....but dude that popped biggie was about to pop puffy, but his bodyguard told him to bounce.


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 05-19-2005, 01:47 PM         #26
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pac went at nas because he stole his beat (street dreams was released after all eyes on me) and because of the line he says in the message about getting shot and leaving the hospital the same night, which pac really did. It was this coupled with people saying he was the best on the east along with biggie/mobb.

It started when pac dissed nas and mobb deep in the vibe interview when he was in prison

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I know Nas says sh*t like that, but I dont think its true, I dont know the reason that he went at him, maybe just cause he was another New York guy or cause Big and Nas chilled at times, but I dont think they ever squashed it and I dont think he was gonna take Nas's name off the song, I think nas just says that sh*t now after pac is dead cause who could argue its his word agains a dead guy, nas doesnt want to seem like a bi*ch so he talks about how they squashed it

You gotta respect Pac he went at everyone and none of these guys went back at him, he called out Jay-Z, Nas, Big, Puffy, Mobb deep, its crazy that none of these guys really went back at him, I mean I love Jay-Z's music and am a big fan, but I gotta say in that whole situation he really looks like a bi*ch if you look at it, I mean he tries to act hard now like he doesnt let anyone get away with sh*t, by taking those subliminal shots at Game in Dear Summer, by going at Nas in the takeover, but when he got called out by Pac, he didnt do sh*t

True it is his word, so we really dont know if its squashed or not. Thnks Fam for the input.

 05-19-2005, 01:51 PM         #28
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In a $25 million dollar federal lawsuit against Combs, former Bad Boy president Kirk Burrowes claimed that Wolf was part of a network of thugs called "The Enterprise," which forced him to sign over his 25% interest in the company.

Burrowes claimed Wolf was the alleged triggerman that shot and k!lled an a.ssociate of Marion "Suge" Knight in Atlanta, at an after hours party in 1995.

Police said the investigation is ongoing and more arrests are likely.

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yea thats why suge was hot at bad boy.....they k!lled big frank...i think his name was...he is on dead homies doc movie.

but i seen dude on smack...damn

 05-19-2005, 01:54 PM         #29
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 Killinit said

You gotta respect Pac he went at everyone and none of these guys went back at him, he called out Jay-Z, Nas, Big, Puffy, Mobb deep, its crazy that none of these guys really went back at him, I mean I love Jay-Z's music and am a big fan, but I gotta say in that whole situation he really looks like a bi*ch if you look at it, I mean he tries to act hard now like he doesnt let anyone get away with sh*t, by taking those subliminal shots at Game in Dear Summer, by going at Nas in the takeover, but when he got called out by Pac, he didnt do sh*t
false....

mobb deep,nas,biggie,puffy and jay-z did diss 2pac.....

 05-19-2005, 02:14 PM         #30
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 ~:Makaveli:~ said
false....

mobb deep,nas,biggie,puffy and jay-z did diss 2pac.....

i know drop a gem on em is def about pac but what other songs by those people man?

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